About /lambda/ amd other tech/prog orientes boards

Hey, /lambda/, I was wondering what are your thoughts on 4chan's /g/ and 8chans's tech boards? How do they stack up against this board? Truth be told, I have been a /g/ anon for quite some while now, but I have become tired of the place as it's constantly filled with the same soykafposts and not much interesting technology talk. So yeah, what are my best options to keep up with technology and have some meaningful tech talk with other anons? Pic obviously unrelated

>>3569 8/tech/ was amazing 1-2 years ago, but the quality and traffic have decreased. I still have hopes for it.

With your permission, I'd like to correct the spelling errors in your post. Also, you should always search for a relevant image to begin a thread with, although relevancy of these images is enforced far less strictly than others, currently. Anyways, I may be able to give an interesting answer to your question, as I considered these boards years ago and that's how I found myself here. So, I used 4chan's /g/ for quite a while, running my Lisp General for the last sixteen months I was there, which involved my being present constantly. I was on every day at the time; it was my favorite board, although that doesn't mean particularly much. Unfortunately, 4chan as a whole seems to suffer from apathetic staff and users; rule enforcement on even illegal material was routinely slow, usually by many hours, and only against illegal material was it consistent; the loud thinking was that anyone trying to have serious discussion about the board topic should look elsewhere and it was clear that few genuinely cared about the place; these qualities were part of the reason I did leave. That left me with two main options, 8chan's /tech/ and Lainchan's /λ/; I never considered other imageboards, as none seemed relevant enough. Now, while I greatly value my freedom of speech, 8chan seems to suffer from a userbase that doesn't want to follow much of any rules. By this, I mean that among my first experiences of 8chan's /tech/ board was seeing a thread being spammed into oblivion with pornographic cartoons by an annoyed user, who felt justified because ``This is 8chan and anyone who doesn't like it doesn't belong here.'' or some other such thing. This early interaction of mine rather easily disqualified 8chan as a candidate to move to. From what I've seen, 8chan's /tech/ is mostly like 4chan's /g/, but with some problems solved and different problems taking their place. Regardless of all of this, 8chan is easily superior to 4chan and I do sometimes use it for topics not encompassed here or to simply take a look at the current going ons. My remaining option for movement was Lainchan, which was still rather young at the time; I'd joined at precisely the first anniversary. Now, it's the one I chose and now I've also had a hand in shaping it greatly, so I'll discuss the board in the present. I very much wanted an anonymous communications channel to discuss programming, as I'd grown moderately fond of it; I also very much wanted to prevent this board of mine from becoming as if those others, so I'd to sit down and mull over just what made those other boards unsuitable; I identified two main qualities early on: Relevancy was the first; 4chan's /g/ in particular had a major issue with topic adherence and the loud thinking was that the board was really about whatever cartoon someone wanted it to be about. I'd initially thought that the cartoons were the issue, perhaps, but realized in my mulling that it was simply a specific case of the general concept; this mulling is why there is the image relevancy rule is in place, to prevent irrelevancy from spreading and to ensure that this board is always about programming. Consistency was the next; moderation is bad when done inconsistently; if there was a rule, I wanted to be reasonably consistent about enforcement, at the least, and I believe I've done a good job at this so far. These ideas also tie into my ideas concerning communities in general, along with another, but that's not so relevant here. I can only do my best, but I believe this reasonably sums things up; feel free to ask further questions, if you're inclined.

4chan's /g/ has gone absolutely to soykaf. But I dont think it can ever be fixed because what made 4chan great was that it had no rules and let anybody talk about anything and only ban obvious spammers. Another problem with /g/ is that it should be broken up into /prog/, /tech/ for the people who drone on endlessly about graphics cards and smartphones and /os/ for people to have their stupid linux distro wars and then have /prog/ so programmers can have their own space and programming threads dont just fall off the board. However the quality of programming threads has also gone to soykaf in the last 2 years as their is a C++ troll who does nothing but try and shoot down any language that could replace C++. At least half the posts in any programming thread will have these posts to the point that the noise cancels out the signal. So lainchan's /λ/ definately has high quality programming threads. The fact that we have strict moderation means the C++ troll cant get too far here.

4chan's /g/: abysmal average quality but high traffic; interesting talk can be had but you have to filter a lot of noise; fine for keeping up with recent affairs or for asking the occasional help question. /lam/: higher quality (but let's not suck each other's dicks too much, many people here are very green and many feel like they're fighting the system just because they're using IPFS-- I'm certainly no guru myself), especially for specialized topics like Forth and Lisp programming, but very slow traffic; great for having meaningful, relaxed talk but the small userbase can be limiting. I don't really go to other imageboards. Also I like IPFS, it was just an example. No h8.

My post got marked as spam so I had to post it here: https://gist.github.com/anonymous/6cd1076fb8b03a2bc81a253a4e038572 It replies to >>3569 and >>3581

>>3569 I agree with opinion previous lains stated that /g/ is mostly insufferable. Don't get me wrong it was very valuable for me in the past and helped me transition to programming career. But for a long time it ceased to be what it was for me. I still check on it regularly but almost always I go away with feeling of wasted time. As for place for learning new things about tech I settled on HackerNews, rarely read threads there and don't have account because I'm too accustomed to anonymity of chans to have one. HackerNews tends to lean towards web tho but it's fine with me.

>>3574 "Anyways" is a common grammatical/spelling error and at best a colloquialism due to how often it is used. The proper spelling is always "anyway" without the "s". Thought I'd share this because you seem to be interested in keeping your posts at a high standard.

>>3581 This is one of the downsides to general culture. Generals are nice because they keep the board nice and tidy. However, they start accumulating some level of sameglitterboyry. So as you say, there could be one anon in love with his programming language with a mission to shut everyone else down. Generals make it much easier for him to do that.

>>3631 >The proper spelling is always "anyway" no its not, "any way" is 2 words, that fact that you are correcting someone on a colloquialism sort of shows how ridiculous grammar nazis are as colloquialisms are by definition a non-formal or literary word or phrase invented for use in ordinary or familiar conversation.

>>3635 Anyway is a common compound dictionary word. Used properly it has no s. Anyways is found in modern dictionaries with reference to it being a common colloquialism even though it began as a misuse of anyway. Likewise, the non compound "any way" from which it comes is perfectly legal too, but not as common as the former two. The person I responded to was so specificially concerned witt grammar and spelling that they modified OP's post. Therefore I figured they would be particularly interested in this tidbit.

>>3631 >>3635 >>3644 >"Anyways" is a common grammatical/spelling error and at best a colloquialism due to how often it is used. The proper spelling is always "anyway" without the "s". Thought I'd share this because you seem to be interested in keeping your posts at a high standard. >no its not, "any way" is 2 words, that fact that you are correcting someone on a colloquialism sort of shows how ridiculous grammar nazis are as colloquialisms are by definition a non-formal or literary word or phrase invented for use in ordinary or familiar conversation. >Anyway is a common compound dictionary word. Used properly it has no s. Anyways is found in modern dictionaries with reference to it being a common colloquialism even though it began as a misuse of anyway. Likewise, the non compound "any way" from which it comes is perfectly legal too, but not as common as the former two. The person I responded to was so specificially concerned witt grammar and spelling that they modified OP's post. Therefore I figured they would be particularly interested in this tidbit. This is interesting to me; I do strive to use words properly in all cases and figured ``always'' was a colloquialism I probably shouldn't be using for correctness. I've grown rather fond of using it, mostly for its nicer sound over ``anyway'', but will replace it with another. I'll also point out that I've not yet modified the errors in the opening post, as the original poster hasn't responded to my post.

>>3655 Yo, instead of discussing spelling errors how about you unlock my thread? Your posts have nothing to do with programming and my thread did. You try to be a good mod, then see that I am right.

>>3655 I'm really mad because this thread itself has nothing to do with programming, it talks about tech boards, which at best belongs on /r/. Talking about a specific programming language and providing example programs is locked but not this? Seriously mod, come on.

>>3658 I think you need to stomp your feet and pout a bit more.

>>3659 Nah, I'm trying to be nice, but I'm mad because supercollider is an awesome language and it deserves some discussion you guys can miss out on it, I already know and enjoy it. Also don't be rude.

>>3658 >I'm really mad because this thread itself has nothing to do with programming, it talks about tech boards no, this is a programming board and this compares the quality of programming discussion going on on other boards, which is a very important topic, I think we are all seeking out to optimize the advantages vs disadvantages of competing boards

>>3662 I don't disagree with what you say. What I disagree with is the varying levels of strictness when enforcing rules.

>>3656 I'm at least passingly familiar with most languages, but I'd never heard of this language and failed to recognize this ``Supercollider'' as a language and so the thread as concerning a specific language, perhaps thinking it was a tool instead of a language. In part because of this, I'd thought you were simply posting rather unintelligible chunks of programs and locked the thread. The misunderstanding was unfortunate, but I still insist it was a poor thread compared to the standards threads are generally held to here; your other thread is better and, if you want, I'll move the ``Supercollider'' to the subject field and source a high resolution logo for the language to replace the image you used with. As for this thread, I understand it's questionably related to programming, which is part of the reason I'm monitoring it more visibly.

>>3675 What you say sounds reasonable, please do. If you haven't had the pleasure of programming in supercollider you should try it. here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SuperCollider