Search Engines

What search engine(s) do you use lainons? I use google for completely nonincriminating queries. "How to set python recursion limit", that sort of thing. I use bing for porn, it gets the best results as far as that goes. I realize it's not super private but I've been watching porn since I first got on the internet. Way, way before I became aware of privacy and security and data collection. So I'm sure they already have a comprehensive profile of my degenerate fetishes and there's no use trying to hide that anymore. The rest of the time I use ddg, startpage, and searx.me. Startpage is a sort of a proxy for google's search. You get google's results and it's a way to avoid the filter bubble since searches aren't personalized. searx.me is a metasearch engine. How do they stack up for keeping your searches private? Finally, what do you guys think about yandex? It gives decent results but doesn't make any claims on being private afaik. However, it's a Russian company so it's not like they're going to hand over data to Western intelligence and law enforcement agencies right? What else is out there? some relevant wiki articles: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_web_search_engines https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metasearch_engine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Filter_bubble ddg vs startpage, an article: http://securityspread.com/2016/10/24/duckduckgo-startpage-2016-update/

I've been using Startpage for a while now.

>>983 glowfang.xyz is a searx instance run by a lainon here, that's what I use

>>985 Run your own searx instance. That's the whole point of it.

I use duckduckgo, google and yandex.

>>983 >>984 >>988 Startpage and Duckduckgo are provided by advertising companies, you can't trust them any more than you can trust google. >>987 You're easier to identify if you're the sole user of your searx instance. Google could tie your instance's IP with searches and build your profile as easily as if you were directly using its search engine. >>983 I'm french and I use a searx instance provided by La Quadrature du Net (searx.laquadrature.net). They're some sort of french equivalent to the EFF and fight for electronic rights in France and the EU.

>>989 but how would they know that?

>>989 >You're easier to identify if you're the sole user of your searx instance Use Tor https://asciimoo.github.io/searx/ >Additionally, searx can be used over Tor for online anonymity.

http://etherrag.blogspot.jp/2013/07/duck-duck-go-illusion-of-privacy.html This article can be search engine agnostic.

>>992 Searx is already slow, if you were to wrap each request it makes in a tor request it would be unbearable to use.

>>993 >Firefox has detected that the server is redirecting the request for this address in a way that will never complete. Well.

http://symbolhound.com/ Special character sensitive search engine for stackoverflow.com (/other sites?).

I personnaly use qwant. It is a normal person oriented / open source french search engine. Cancer aside (like their news pages) they're ok.

I have wikipedia set as my default. If that doesn't work, I use the searx instance that >>989 mentioned>>989

>So I'm sure they already have a comprehensive profile of my degenerate fetishes and there's no use trying to hide that anymore This has been my logic for some time. There's "nuffin 2 hide" but then there's "welp too late".

>>1276 People change, don't they? I understand it might seem futile to try to change your habits now since you feel like they already know everything, but in a year or so you might be a slightly different person with slightly different interests (and slightly different fetishes too!) Over time if you change your privacy habits, some of the data they have on you will become outdated or incorrect. This isn't quite as good as them having no data on you (which is pretty darn hard to achieve in the first place), but it's better than continuing to give up your privacy.

>>996 The gist of the article is that DDG is unlikely to succeed against 3-letter-agencies. It's still a solid defense against corporate tracking, but it's not the Tails+TOR of search engines.

I use a Searx roulette. https://searx.neocities.org/

>>993 Also interesting, the CEO of DuckDuckGo replied in the comments of the article. >Hi, this is Gabriel Weinberg, CEO and founder of DuckDuckGo. I do not believe we can be compelled to store or siphon off user data to the NSA or anyone else. All the existing US laws are about turning over existing business records and not about compelling you change your business practices. In our case such an order would further force us to lie to consumers, which would put us in trouble with the FTC and irreparably hurt our business. >We have not received any request like this, and do not expect to. We have spoken with many lawyers particularly skilled and experienced in this part of US and international law. If we were to receive such a request we believe as do these others it would be highly unconstitutional on many independent grounds, and there is plenty of legal precedent there. With CALEA in particular, search engines are exempt. >There are many additional legal and technical inaccuracies in this article and I will not address all of them in this comment. All our front-end servers are hosted on Amazon not Verizon, for example.

>>1291 > Over time if you change your privacy habits, some of the data they have on you will become outdated or incorrect Yeah but they'll still have it.

>>1299 >page requires javascript In what year do you live?

>>990 Having more reliable profiles, whoever they are, lead to better stastistics and therefore to better results. It depends if you only want to not be identified or actively interfere with their activities.

>>994 I use La Quadrature's node and it is just as fast.

>>1605 The idea is really neat.

>>989 So which ones do you suggest?

>>1607 It can't be. For each request you make, searx has to make a request to each of the search engines you enabled. Thus, searx is at least as slow as the search engine you enabled. And then, there's the overhead of your own request to searx, which adds latency. >>1624 Choose a searx instance you trust ( https://github.com/asciimoo/searx/wiki/Searx-instances ) or >>1299.

>>1299 Is there a list of instances available? Idea seems cool but I would like to inspect what places this search can take me.

>>1641 Well you can view source on that page, or >>1640 posted a link to a list of instances

I use searx.me for everything. It's slower, but I genuinely like it. I used to use DuckDuckGo, but suddenly all the search results are spam and totally unrelated stuff.

Startpage and DDG.

>>1660 just use another instance than searx.me. It is much more quick

>>989 >Startpage and Duckduckgo are provided by advertising companies I knew DuckDuckGo was, but Startpage also? They always seemed very privacy concerned. They are also not US based.

>>1938 They're both ad supported commercial operations, but neither of them are advertisers in the sense of Google or whatever ad company owns Ghostery.

>>983 Nobody should be using Jewgle. Use Startpage, it gets its results from Google itself but your privacy is safe // they don't send your IP to google. https://www.startpage.com/

>>1943 To elaborate on that anon, basically your request goes from your ip to the startpage server, then from the startpage server to google, so google never sees your IP. If you search on google directly, even with javascript disabled, google can just say "oh, this IP googled xxxxxx, but an hour and a half ago that IP logged in to john.smith@gmail.com". They can track you a half a dozen different ways. But if you use startpage, your searches are interspersed with the searches of everyone else using startpage, so google can't track you

>>1940 So they are a lesser evil? I have been wanting to use StartPage but not if it's a botnet.

>>983 Qwant pros: >doesn't look like cancer (searx) >muh privacy plastered everywhere >semi-opensource >not based in the US (owned by baguettes) >unlike ddg, it's not owned by (((Weinberg))) cons: >owners look kosher, but can't be certain

>>2210 >when you base software reviews on racism pathetic