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>try to log in to my bank with a new device >please verify the code we sent to your email address >try to log in to email address >please verify that you are human >solve 3 captchas >please try again >solve 4 captchas >please try again >solve 5 captchas >we have verified that you are human >we suggest you provide an alternative email address for account recovery >no skip button, stupidly reload page hoping to bypass "suggestion" >it wasn't actually a suggestion, didn't log in, gotta start over >log in to email address and solve captchas again, now 6 captchas >we suggest (insist) you provide an alternative email address for account recovery >enter alternative email address >please verify the code we sent to your alternative email address >try to log in to alternative email address >please verify that you are human >solve more captchas >we have verified that you are human >please verify the code we sent to your phone number >wait for text message that never arrives >resend verification code >message arrives, enter code >log in to alternative email >copy and paste verification code to main email to verify alternative email >finally log into main email >copy and paste verification code to bank website >your verification code has expired maybe this is just me becoming an old person who isn't good at technology anymore, but i don't know. it seems like just brazen contempt for the user at this point. we're going to become AI companies now and devote all of the world's resources to building human-impersonating robots so we can fire all of our workers and erode human trust and destroy the internet, but YOU have to solve these captchas and prove that you are a real human. we are irresponsible and don't care about security and have massive data breaches all the time, but YOU have to secure your account with recursive multi-factor authentication. it's always the user's fault. i could even go further to say that this isn't even technology at all at this point. merriam-webster defines technology as the practical application of scientific knowledge. this is not a practical application of scientific knowledge. this is having your face rubbed in soykaf every day by trillionaires who believe that they are masters of reality and that their divine will supercedes all earthly logic. this is like the era of the knights templar when the entire civilized world had to dance and sing and jump through hoops for a cabal of mega-rich pseudomystical lunatics because they controlled all the wealth and all the infrastructure. i only hope that i get to live to see the day when the big tech ceos are slow-roasted to death over hot coals.

>>92733 I've never owned a cell phone, and gmail doesn't let me disab;e two factor authentication. If my IP range changes gmail asks for a number to send a code two. Sometimes it offers to call. In either case it will say something went wrong and never actually call or text. So I cannot check my email elsewhere and if I change my IP range is locks me out as well. My bank has to send a verification code and since I only have a landline I have to be home to check it as well.

Happens all the time. The satanist epstein-coalition needs you to be connected to the botnet 24/7 or else you are not human. And all the goycattle are happy about it somehow. Because finally they don't have to think even for a split second, their devil-mirror (called smartphone by the satanic pedos) does it.

>>92736 Ditch gmail at this point. Being at risk of being locked out of your email is such a big liability.

>>92736 Yes google is very obnoxious about phone verification. It's ultimately the reason I started avoiding their products in many areas of tech. It's a shame they own YT, it's really hard to replace (yes, I know about all the options, so no need to tell me).

>>92733 Just use a bot.

>>92739 It's my primary work email from like 15 years ago. Don't know what to replace it with other than my own domain. Everything is trash.

>>92744 Your registrar, your ISP, protonmail, state-operated service if that's a thing where you are. Literally anything is better than something you can lose access to at any moment.

>>92744 >Don't know what to replace it with other than my own domain you can't really even do that anymore. nowadays anything that doesn't come from the select few trusted IPs i.e. the major popular email providers like gmail or outlook or icloud or whatever will get either spamfiltered or just silently dropped entirely by pretty much every email provider and trying to get a new IP whitelisted is extremely difficult and takes years of reputation building and it costs a fortune, hiring deliverability consultants and reaching out to all the major providers and convincing them to trust you, etc. >>92745 none of those things can really be depended on to stay operational for the forseeable future like the big three providers (google, microsoft, apple) and none of them will have the level of deliverability that the big three do. email is just a big monopolized dumpster fire now, its basically yet another example of why lolbertarianism is retarded and leaving the deregulated private sector in charge of building and running basic essential infrastructure is a terrible idea.

>>92748 >none of those things can really be depended on to stay operational for the forseeable future like the big three providers Yes they can, wtf are you talking about? Stop spreading FUD glowtard. My ISP has been around for longer than google. > will get either spamfiltered or just silently dropped entirely by pretty much every email provider and trying to get a new IP whitelisted Self-hosting email is a huge hastle, but it's far from being impossible. Either way, you can use you own domain without self-hosting. Many registrars will host email for free (as in, it's included in the domain fees), and all serious email hosts can be used with your own domain (protonmail, google and outlook all can do this). Depending on your usage, boycotting google/apple/microsoft is feasible anyway (I've had professors who sent every email sent from a gmail address to spam). And you can still keep a gmail account to send email to google addresses, telling your recipients to contact you on a more reliable address. (unless they block outgoing mail too, but I've never heard of that)

>>92748 >>92748 >you can't really even do that anymore. nowadays anything that doesn't come from the select few trusted IPs i.e. the major popular email providers like gmail or outlook or icloud or whatever will get either spamfiltered or just silently dropped entirely by pretty much every email provider and trying to get a new IP whitelisted is extremely difficult and takes years of reputation building and it costs a fortune, hiring deliverability consultants and reaching out to all the major providers and convincing them to trust you, etc. you are ignorant and have never self hosted email before. if you get a 10/10 on https://mail-tester.com/ you won't be dropped by anyone. I've been self hosting for nearly 2 years now. used it to contact school, uni, my parents and family, create accounts with countless services, and although I admittedly have had a couple gulp moments it's all been okay in the end. a domain and a soykaf tier VPS is all it takes. good luck.

>>92751 What email provider do you use with your domain registrar? I feel like it's easy to lock yourself out if you use a self-hosted email address.

This is when to start living the cryptospook life

>>92749 >Yes they can, wtf are you talking about? Stop spreading FUD glowtard. My ISP has been around for longer than google. idk where you are from, but i live in the us and isps here are not really reliable at all, and most of them have ended their email service or outsourced it to yahoo anyway. i used to have an email account with my old isp when i lived in another state and now that isp has a different name and doesn't provide email anymore and deleted all their users' email accounts. and even if that weren't the case i would have lost access to it because i'm no longer a subscriber.

>>92733 long diceware password stored in your brain and can't be read, or gibberish password stored in a password manager and can't be read >not good enough 2FA code sent by SMS or unencrypted email that half the fuarrrking world can read, tied to a device/account which might be compromised >looks good to me we truly live in upside-down world. i think this is because normal people have been trained (e.g. work forcing password change every 3m, requirements for letter+number+symbol) to pick short insecure passwords and write them in obvious places. >password manager? who's that? does he work in the IT department? i've been so chuffed to use pass-otp and basically sidestep the whole 2FA bullshit on most of my accounts (gubment still does sms-only though because of course they do)

I am tad disappointed to see this board has no "data recovery" thread and this is what came upon looing up for "recovery" word. Mind you, I have some experience of handling a couple of data recovery tools, including bootable ones. Not today, I guess.

Here's a weird trick on password recovery from your mind. Try a list of passwords you would set if you could Sometimes, when you try to reset a password, you get a "new password cannot be identical to the old one". Happened to me a couple of times, too. >>92745 >your registrar So... @godaddy.com mail, huh?