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John Rain · 2025-07-29 08:02
you're going to >learn programming >love it >figure out you're not creative enough to program anything worthwhile >become a corporate codemonkey >you will start to hate programming just use AI if you have anything worthwhile in mind. This is the path I'm going on. I don't even know why I'm doing it because I'm pretty much fine being homeless. All I need is food to survive and I can get that at church food banks. I don't even need money for anything. I might be an idiot. Is that a dumb decision? Why be a codemonkey if you don't even want anything money can provide? Is there anything of value on the path I'm on or should I just give in to base impulses?
Jens Hansen · 2025-07-29 10:25
nah i think i will learn to code and then not do anything with it instead because i hate corpo soykaf
Jim Hilger · 2025-07-29 14:40
>>87780 If there is a project you want to accomplish or anything you want to learn using code, AI definitely helps. That's what I'm doing with my own projects at least. If you have a strong enough rig, just run AI models offline/locally. I wish I wasn't coding on my soykafty laptop ;_;
Elliot Alderson · 2025-07-29 15:22
>>87787 AI is like kicking dead whales down the beach donkey dick for coding holy soykaf. Anything more complex than "create one thing" and it soykafs the bed HARD. Although if you just need to spitball it's aight.
Eldon Tyrell · 2025-07-29 17:01
learned to code in 2007, when I was 10. tried using chatgpt for a bit and it produced buggy, insecure, or inefficient code with poor structure and it was very inelegant too. I tried using it to work with languages I haven't before or hadn't been in a while and it was circumstantially helpful, but only when I asked it to explain in English why particular snippets of code didn't work, or how to do something. even then, I wound up consulting stackoverflow sometimes anyway. overall, it's a much better idea to learn to code using tutorials or books than text transformers. at least for now.
Ivan Petrov · 2025-07-29 17:28
to answer your non-AI related questions.. >Is that a dumb decision? it really depends on your definition of dumb. if by dumb you mean "exposing yourself to a high degree of risk and variance over a long time period" then yeah its pretty dumb. on a more philosophical or deep basis, though, I can't actually think of anything wrong with it. think about it like this: so long as there's things you enjoy doing, you should probably try to keep those options open as long as possible and you should maintain or increase your freedom to enjoy new activities that you might enjoy doing too. having a place to live that you pay rent for in exchange for spending 6-8 hours of your day, everyday, working gives you a secure location to keep your things in, it also gives you a consistent, comfortable place to sleep at night, bathe, wash your clothes, etc. this frees you up to think and do other things that aren't working on it. if you feel that 6-8 hours / day, ~5 days a week is a worthwhile price for that sort of thing in addition to some amount of money for other things, like food variety, consistent internet access, a nice computer, and ticketed events you can't just sneak into. if you feel your time is qualitatively more valuable than that, then maybe you want to spend it instead on the mysteries of the universe, and also homelessness. if however, you feel your time is more valuable than a prole job but still quantitatively valuable, then you could learn to code using any means you find easiest. keep in mind that if you use LLMs to code with there will likely be situations where you can't use an LLM, or an LLM will be inefficient.
Hitomi · 2025-07-29 20:31
>>87788 Nice dub dubs. Yeah you pretty much put it in better words. Personal projects and using AI isn't so bad when you're trying to learn. In production though.... that's a different story.
The Phantom Phreak · 2025-07-30 21:59
i think the options arent as narrow as you're presenting them computers are binary on/off human life is complex and emergent also computers and 'ai' are, used properly, a feedback loop of *your own mind*, no matter how sophisticated the tooling, the instrument to be worked on the most is the brain and nervous system, do take care of it i think you do want more things that money can buy, and you do have a creative spark, so you shouldn't just accept abject poverty playing by their rules and limiting yourself in this manner you lose either way, you must break out and forge your own path it may take some time scraping and scrounging and crawling at the bottom, but make a demo, fix a major flaw in an existing project to showcase your skill, examine real market needs and present to the world that you have skills to pay the bills
Delilah · 2025-07-30 22:02
>>87780 I'm not going to do any of those things. Stop putting weird ideas in people's heads like you're "wise", you broken little cog. *smashes you in the nuts a few times* *chuckles as you double over* Heh, nothin persinnell, kid. Gotta make the outside match the inside.