Creating an archive to prepare for internet isolation

Hello Lainons. I think that the Internet in my country will become isolated pretty soon. Censorship bypasses won't work forever, and there are fewer and fewer loopholes with each passing month. I can't move anywhere, so I have to face the consequences, that's why I want to prepare an archive with as much useful information and entertainment as possible . Also, in that situation I won't have access to OS and package updates. Extra info: The archive is somewhat redundant (RAID1, though I just rsync all files from one drive to another, but this works too). I'm fairly good with CLI tools, and use archlinux-based distro on both of my machines, I have all needed tools for work and hobbies installed on both of them and I don't delete pacman and yay cache in case I'll have to get a new one. Currently archive contains: Kiwix archives (Gutenberg Library, full eng Wikipedia), Gentooman Library (pretty dated and trashy on first glance, but might be useful nonetheless), some TTRPG rulebooks, some documentaries from Youtube. Arch, Debian, Mint, NetBSD, OpenBSD, EndeavourOS ISOs. Thus, I have several questions, and ask you for advice: What should I add to this archive? Any sofware, codecs, compilers? Learning resources, books? Youtube videos? Games, emulators? I'm looking for any suggestions. If there is more stable and more suiting for offline usage linux distro, I'm willing to switch, but I don't think this will make much difference. I'm going to monitor this thread, so if I have missed something important, I'm ready to elaborate.

>>87716 check out >>87146 Posting failed: body too short

try setting up a mirror for the distro you use. takes lots of space but then you'll have all the software you need and the ability to reinstall if needed. apt-mirror or just rsync from one of archlinux's hosts. lots of linux package managers have the ability to scan a directory instead of an http endpoint for repos.

>>87720 Yeah, that thread has a very similar topic and a good reply that applies here too. maybe I shouldn't have created this thread, but I was hoping to start somewhat personal and concrete discussion and maybe even file/link share here. Because, speaking of entertainment part, I would really love to see some Lainons share what would they save personally in this situation. I already know what I love, and I can rewatch/reread/replay it, but it would be nicer to have something new and unknown for me yet in that archive too.

>>87722 Thank you, fair point. I'll definitely might need to install some packages in the future that I have no idea of yet. Archlinux repo was around 80 GiB, if I remember correctly. Though keeping it up to date until the actual shutdown will be somewhat troublesome, i think... No matter, will figure it out.

You could always connect to a meshnet and no one could stop you. It even could be set up to be a bridge to the external internet.

>>87730 Could you please elaborate? I don't know much about meshnets, honestly. From alternatives to clearnet I used only I2P and Yggdrasil, but those are P2P networks, not mesh. Or am I mixing concepts? And won't mesh networks stop working if suddenly global whitelists for whole country are used, severing all unauthorized connections?

>>87732 A meshnet can run independent of the internet as it's own parallel network without relying on ISPs at all so they are not effected by blacklists and whitelists that would prevent using VPNs, Tor, and I2P or even in event of total internet blackouts. All you would need is find a network that is connected well enough and you can access whatever content people put on it which can be it's own thing, mirror copies of websites, or the actual websites through some sort of bridging assuming the meshnet crosses borders. Meshnets can be on physical ethernet cables but usually they are connected through some kind of wireless technology in which only way to shut down the network would be jammers which even a totalitarian government would be hesitant to use.

>>87737 Thank you for explanation, I'll look it up.

>>87738 I should mention most governments are lazy and just changing your DNS, making sure you don't have DNS leaks, and using a locally hosted VPN (assuming if they block VPN IPs) would probably be enough to avoid being shut down. That is assuming if they dont physically remove the actual networking connecting to the global internet or have backdoors installed in your modem.

Download a Wikipedia archive for general knowledge, a Project Gutenberg archive for culture and reading, some retro emulators and archival torrents of ROMs for them (typically contain thousands of games) for fun, set up some development environments for a few programming languages that don't rely much on community, like C or Lisp for example, and grab a dozen programming books to learn and experiment and write software you might need locally, or perhaps some generative programming environments for generative artistic programming, like the Processing language, Super Collider for generating music, perhaps some game engine or frameworks, DAW, video and image editor etc. Might want to look up on Goodreads the top 10 books in every domain you're interested in, and download those too. And don't forget to download all the music you enjoy, and perhaps torrent some movies and shows, but those of course have a bad knowledge/fun-to-space-usage ratio compared to books. I second setting up a mirror for your distro. Slackware comes with "everything" installed by default, so that might be useful. For extra packages you can mirror SlackBuilds.org build scripts, and the source archives they reference. Note that RAID1 is a tool for availability, not durability. In other words, if something destroyed your data, it would be destroyed on _both_ drives. RAID1 helps if you want to stay actively online even when one of the drives breaks or is being replaced, if you're providing an internet service for example. But in your case, it is likely better to use the other drive as _backup_ instead of RAID mirror, so if the data is destroyed on one drive, you can still recover it from the other one. I assume you wouldn't mind the minor "downtime" while you switch the drives manually or copy the data or something. When things got really bad with internet access in Egypt (complete blackout), people went back to using phone lines to connect to the internet, with the support of people outside the country. If any access is still possible, you can make your own VPN (Wireguard, OpenVPN) and DNS server on a VPS outside the country, and tunnel through that, or perhaps even use SSH tunneling or more obscure ways if need be. There are good VPS providers that accept cryptocurrency like Monero if you don't have access to traditional financial systems. Heck, a lot can even be "smuggled" in over Email and PGP, especially with a willing friend outside the country. And finally, perhaps embrace the blessing that without the internet you can become less of a consumer, and more of a producer, write instead of read, draw instead of watch, develop games instead of playing them, and make new music instead of finding it.

>>87739 For now, I already use a self-hosted VPN on a rented VPS, best bypass option available IMHO, so that is covered, but I don't know how far they would go, I tend to be a little extra paranoid. >>87741 Very extensive answer, thank you! Some of that I already have done (didn't mention music in my first post, it is just so natural to save music from soulseek and other resources for me that I didn't even think to list it in the archive, also I already have "archived" DAWs and other artistic and dev tools, since I use them on my machines, they won't go anywhere), will definitely try to download and set up other stuff you mentioned. While I understand how to create dev environments, I've never emulated old games before, could you please point me in the right direction so my attempts will go smoother? And I will look up everything about slackware, should be comprehendable. Both drives are offline, and I just rsync all the data from newer one to older one. They are not set up as a raid array, called it RAID 1 because practically effect is the same, all data is mirrored, I just thought this term will help to explain the setup in less words, maybe I was wrong. I already somewhat answered to the VPN part to the Lainon above. I haven't heard much about Egypt's case though, that's very interesting. I wouldn't say I'm scared of the isolation, I already try to create as much as I can, but creation is hard in informational vacuum, and the only alternative to vacuum will be socialization or slop on "substitute platforms". I don't mind the first option, it is great, but don't want to limit myself to choose only between them.

It won't last long. Pretty soon there will be the Singularity. The Apocalypse. We'll go silicon and become spacebound. The Enemies will try hard to stop us doing that. Your primary objective is to * keep your humanity and dignity to that point * make that happen despite the reaction. Putin will not isolate Runet completely. AI papers will flow - through malicious govt gates. Use that. He is obsessed with capturing land, while land will soon become irrelevant garbage since space contains many orders of magnitude more resources and resources are survival. You don't need this fancy blue sky - once you can survive without it in the cold void filled with ionizing radiation thanks to error-correcting codes, automatic repairing infrastructure and live migration. You need immortality in billions of years span. And only space can grant you that.

>>87745 What is the point of keeping my humanity, if the next stage you describe is clearly pretty far from the general consensus of what human is? Just a little inconsistent, isn't it? Leaving AI glazing and accelerationism aside, cool prediction, being space immortal being sure is nice, but I'll still need something to at least keep my human life at the remotely same level of quality now and in the nearest foreseeable future, not SOON (TM). That archive is one of the solutions I have, and this thread is mostly about it, so if you have recommendations besides waiting for AI singularity that will solve everything, please share.

>>87743 > I've never emulated old games before, could you please point me in the right direction so my attempts will go smoother? Generally, you install emulation software, and sometimes a "BIOS" firmware for it, then run game ROMs using that emulator. For example, for PSP games you may use the PPSSPP emulator, and for the Super Nintendo (SNES) there's a few popular ones like zsnes, higan, mednafen, fceux, etc. Some people swear by RetroArch, but I've never used it myself. > but creation is hard in informational vacuum Might be useful to download the source code for some important projects, so you can read it, study it, and learn from it. Linux kernel, OpenBSD, BusyBox, scrcpy, Emacs, Vim, PostgreSQL, etc. Lots of information is contained within those code bases. As for writing, you have plenty of books already. For visual arts, some databases of *booru site archives are floating around, you can perhaps download them to have access to hundreds of thousands of drawings. Similarly, training data sets for deep learning models might prove useful in various domains, not sure where people get those nowadays, but I'd start looking on HuggingFace. Also, some maps might be useful; if you have the space to spare, get the OpenStreetMaps database for your country with a high-ish precision, and for the world with low precision. I used Nominatim before for that, it wasn't too bad.

>What is the point of keeping my humanity, if the next stage you describe is clearly pretty far from the general consensus of what human is? A human is a being having human rights. Be it a Homo Sapiens, a robot, a sentient amoeba, an alien or so on. A pig doesn't have human rights - because it is an agricultural animal. That's why we slaughter it for food. As we do with cows, rabbits and poultry. As we will do with everything else, the whole biosphere, the whole planet. You know why do people live economically better in later years than in former? The rate of extraction. We consume the planet. That's why species get extinct. It will accelerate. The Earth is doomed. We cannot save every being there even if we wished. But if you are a human - you are not to be treated like that. Kantian Categorical Imperative. You will get your share of von Neumann probes with AI capable hosting your consciousness. Just because you are one of our kind.

I almost forgot. I found this a while ago. An open source internet local archiver https://archivebox.io/ Anyone know if this is a preferable method to other options?

>>87748 OpenStreetMaps has data on CCTV camera locations which would be good to have that info for in a totalitarian or tyrannical government. Best to have an OSM based navigation app on your phone too though.

>>87753 The cam database there is surely incomplete. And they are already everywhere, you cannot avoid them. Just wear a face mask where it is legal and avoid policemen (that will surely not like your undermining of surveillance regime) and idiotic part of population that will scream "Help! Maniac is killing me!" on sight. To be honest: you cannot, but even this advice is better than "load cams and avoid them" naivety.

>>87754 They are everywhere just in major cities of certain countries only. Ive never seen a camera in rural areas even on street lights. But yes it is likely incomplete.

>>87755 I see glowies surveillance cam outdoors at the dacha cooperative I have a dacha in. They appeared there in autumn 2022, when the cams started being used to catch mobilization evaders, likely because some evaders used dachas as hideouts and it is costly to send police to every dacha to check ... so likely they just optimized by just installing a cam (useful for them even if there are no evaders, because control over own property, including living one, never harms, you know, so have to be installed anyway, but mobilization just accelerated this process). I'm thinking about just selling the dacha (despite it would be a grand loss) and buying some other piece of land somewhere far-far away where there is no electricity, no roads and no other utilities, because cams at dacha settlements ... it is just unacceptable. It is almost like a cam within your flat. Well, in China there are cams preinstalled in newly-built flats, including bathrooms (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo6up0LaT4k) ... and the worst of all, the videoblogger girl considers these cams OK (and I guess this matches the views of most of Chinese, despite the girl clearly being from an upper class family). But that is China. Well, even before that few (minority) of my neighbours (I mean members of the same cooperative) have installed the cams at own property, but surveilling well outside of their property ... but presence of state-installed cams changes the game entirely. It half-step away from installing cams into flats. We will inevitably pass that line, cams are as cheap as dirt now.

>>87748 I see. Thank you for clarification. As for visual arts, I tend to download artbooks, I enjoy gamedev and they are usually filled with stories and insights about development, so I get the best of both worlds, but getting some datasets is great idea too. It is also good to have maps downloaded, I agree. I use organic maps currently, but I don't know if you can share and store the downloaded databases between devices. Will check out Nominatim. >>87752 Never used archivebox before, but for one-page articles I find online I use SinglePage addon, it is not very good for archival purposes, but is pretty convenient, especially paired with Ublock to download only needed information from website. I seldom download websites though, and even if I do, that is mostly random articles and tech tutorials. >>87757 Horrendous. How can anyone agree to cameras in flats? Don't know about passing the line, most people are not THAT indifferent to privacy, they sure are ignoring online/tech privacy, yes, but that is because of ignorance, and inability to grasp abstract concepts. Cameras looking right at your face are not abstract at all.

>>87760 It’s not about being abstract; it's about you already have given up. Cams on streets are not abstract; you’ve normalized them. CALEA/Yarovaya law, with now is openly used for biometrics (in the past they pretended it wasn't - you’ve also allowed that. When the choice is between submission and destruction, people submit. That’s called legitimacy. The most monstrous, exploitative dictatorships are legitimate partners to every nation needing to buy their oil or to profit by selling them luxuries and surveillance equipment and software. And the most corrupt and rights-violating regimes are legitimate to the population they control: that population is actively complicit in regime deeds on own subjugation. The naturalized citizens are complicit squared - they also make an oath and 100% voluntarily give biometrics. Each irrevocable concession permanently alters your utility, the value of refusing further concessions of the same type becomes negative. It’s no longer about avoiding a grand loss, you already took the grand loss, and it is already taken from you for eternity. For example if you don't have a biometric ID, if you’re not a native-born citizen (otherwise you will have to first obtain a residency permission and cross the border, each of which usually requires biometrics now pretty everywhere) of South Africa, Afghanistan, Russia, Singapore, Taiwan, Switzerland, Gibraltar, North Macedonia, Russia, Caribbean Netherlands, Costa Rica, Dominican Republic, Mexico, or the United States (the list is from https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Template%3AIdentity_cards , 14 for the whole world, and US should not be here because of REAL ID). Then, when biometric checkpoints are being demanded https://ouzs.ru/news/pro-dobrovolnost-sdachi-biometrii-mozhno-zabyt-pravitelstvo-gotovit-npa/ - they are well in the `OK` territory of the population - the individuals gain nothing from non-giving biometrics on these checkpoints, since they have already given it when they got a national ID, and a foreign biometric ID/passport. Cams in every room of a flat - they are scary for you, because your utility is not as skewed as one of those living in China, where surveillance is orders of magnitude harsher than in the West and people have been forced to give the concessions you have not yet been forced to give (if forced - you will give them, and cams in flats will be as OK for you as they are OK for Chinese).

>>87764 It's kinda funny that you address me personally, as if I have any power, even if I have choice, though not the one you imply at all. Also I think that it is worth noting that the rhetoric about "the complicity of population" is only used by first-worlders, and most of them think that voting harder actually changes anything. > When the choice is between submission and destruction, people submit. Not really destruction, mostly the choice is between less rights/options in the future, or so, so much less rights right now (confinement, in some cases even ruined health or death). Submission is kind of a rational choice. You accept the new rules or you ruin your life. You can disagree with them personally (just don't voice your opinion too loud!), many people actually silently disagree, but they can't even try to change anything (who guarantees that the attempt will actually work?), without having huge losses. The people that "normalized" something are the ones who don't even think about it. No thought process have been involved to "normalize" changes, they just... don't give it any attention. Though there are no difference in reality between disagreeing and non-thinking people, both groups will accept everything, superficially it even will be in "OK", territory, as you said. But to accept it on personal level, for it to be "OK" for someone who thinks, there are much more brainwashing needed. Cams in flats are not scary, but someone thinking that "you know this is good, actually" — is. But this Chinese girl might also have to silence her real opinion.

>It's kinda funny that you address me personally No so personally. It is a public forum. >as if I have any power You have some. Not much, but some, and it’s here, accessible to you. Whether you take it - choice is yours. >even if I have choice You do have a choice. A harsh one, but a choice nonetheless. In fact not a certain choice, but a constant stream of choices every second, and every choice can have devastating consequences. You managed to survive that stream. >Also I think that it is worth noting that the rhetoric about "the complicity of population" is only used by first-worlders I'm a second-worlder, as you can guess from me quoting a lot of Russia-related stuff. >and most of them think that voting harder actually changes anything. Let’s not underestimate people. Most are successfully navigating the implicit rules of the corruption networks, smart enough to infer and properly follow their unwritten complex rules. Their pretense of ignorance is a strategy, a result of intelligence and understanding. The first rule of Fight Club is: you do not talk about Fight Club. Truths left unspoken aren't unrealized; they're strategically not screamed about, it demonstrates presence of understanding and willingness to play the game by the rules. Voting does define things, when it’s done with money and legs, not through the illusion наебалово of e-ballots. And with money and legs they actually vote for the system. >Not really destruction Actually, damn real physical extermination. Violence: if it fails you, it is just used in insufficient amount. And on each certain territory only a very few actors possess the necessary capacity. If you don’t comply, they escalate it to and past the point of your extermination, even to the deployment of goons with guns like Lon Horiuchi to eliminate anyone who persists in asserting rights conflicting to their rights to make you an agricultural animal. You have no inherent rights gifted by God, God (through means of evolution) have only given you the capability; your rights must be earned through constant and persistent enforcement. The gangsters enforce theirs. You don’t – and that’s why you lack them. Rights are things that are enforced no matter what, regardless of any cheap excuses. >Submission is kind of a rational choice. That depends on your values and beliefs. There is an important difference between the objective rules of a game (game frame) and inherently subjective preferences players place on outcomes. >You accept the new rules or you ruin your life. Is your life worth living under these rules? >You can disagree with them personally (just don't voice your opinion too loud!), many people actually silently disagree "Silently" is a spectrum. Silent disagreement is still a form of compliance, an agreement, a transaction, willfully dealt by both parties in successful peace negotiations. You will keep your soykafty life this time, and the another party get from you what it wants. Transactions are not to be undone, you can't have your cake and eat it too. "Forcedness" is irrelevant, because there are no completely free transactions in principle. For example you buy a loaf of bread because you are forced to eat. Silently staying under radar while being non-compliant is a very different kind of silence. >who guarantees that the attempt will actually work? You are seeking fictional guarantees impossible in real world. Probabilities are real numbers. >but they can't even try to change anything without having huge losses. Not losses, but a math expectation of them. Basically the math is simple: profit * Pr(profit) - losses * Pr(losses). But profits and loses are inherently subjective. >The people that "normalized" something are the ones who don't even think about it. Most of them thought about that. They cannot not to think. How can ones not to think if the vision of a threat and sound of words describing it as a threat is processed through their neural network? People were evolved to process threats. Every animal was. Even a jellie. They just fake that. Because it is what is required, and BTW it'd (solely in their perception) give them benefits, they expect "I'd be able to claim I have never known or thought of that and then beg for voiding the deal I had made". No, in nature deals even made under duress or under ignorance are not to be reverted. You had not known? It is your problem. You are evolutionary garbage then. Immeasurable amount of unworthy siblings of your ancestors (all are your relatives!) have died and the ones that remained were relatively worthy enough to think, and now you claim you were not capable to think?! Well, then you are unworthy too, let's hope that at least some of your relatives were more lucky. Normalization is not non-thinking. It is acceptance. Like people accept mortality. I have not read https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Let_Me_Go_(novel) , I only read Wikipedia summary of it. But soykaf like that reflects real-life dynamics on a grand scale and in slightly bit different setting. Returning to the talk of rights, you have a right to live because you will likely enforce it at all costs, the Evolution has selected you to be like that, and it cannot be undone easily in short timespan. But the protagonists of that novel don't, since they don't enforce their rights. And it is damn strange. All living things have evolved to enforce certain rights. That's why they are called natural rights. But in process of domestication humans have learned to artificially select the animals the way they will not enforce their rights. People have not yet passed that point completely. This is what the makes the novel implausible: living things were evolved not to tolerate their consummation. I haven't read the novel, IDK if the protagonists were engineered (genetically, chemically or electrically) to be livestock. >No thought process have been involved to "normalize" changes, they just... don't give it any attention. Actually, normalization involves a significant thought process. It’s about deciding whether you can assert your rights or if you’re better off surrendering them, whether you are a trembling creature or if you can actually have those rights in principle. >Though there are no difference in reality between disagreeing and non-thinking people, both groups will accept everything The number of genuinely non-thinking individuals is quite small, mostly confined to special facilities for severe mental health issues and cognitive impairments. >But to accept it on personal level, for it to be "OK" for someone who thinks, there are much more brainwashing needed. Not needed. Accepting it on personal level is obeying to it. Even the ones who create and promote and enforce that know they are doing a very evil thing deeply harmful to themselves. But their utilities are already skewed. People are complex being. And different from each other. An there are many of them. Among these amounts there will be abominations who will enthusiastically accept the deal "let's sell my rights, and get gold; those who will not make the deal - we will take their rights from them anyway, but they will get nothing". I know a person. An active proponent of cams, state, surveillance, bank transfers instead of cash and other NWO. The nuance is: he himself has an app with a db of road cams in his phone. When I point him to double standards, he says: "It is not prohibited to have a DB of cams in a phone. It is prohibited to be against the state. When the state prohibits the DBs of cams - I will delete it." He glows. A lot of people glows like this. >Cams in flats are not scary, but someone thinking that "you know this is good, actually" — is. But this Chinese girl might also have to silence her real opinion. Nobody actually thinks it is good. People are not so much idiots. Just for some it is somehow relatively beneficial to glow to get government procurement and to avoid to be seen by colleagues as a traitor of their caste of henchmen. Wanna almost raw confession of one of them, as I recall it? Here it is: > You are saying fancy things... by words you are right ... But by life you are not taking in account an important thing. These bullshit are against the state. And our income depends on it. And we use this income to provide for our wives and children. Be against the state - and you are against our wives and children. And we will not tolerate any threat to our wives and children. I recommend you to stop anyhow promoting that bullshit.

>>87771 > You have some power. Fair. And I use it to make my life and life of my friends/relatives more free and generally better. At least try to. But this change is so minuscule, that it can really be omitted, especially because if I'm forced to lose those freedoms, I'll most likely submit. I have no power, if the greater power is applied against me. > Let’s not underestimate people I made a great mistake by generalizing people. But you did that too, and I don't think that most people have any success, and are all actually genius pretenders. Some do, some live under the illusion that they exercise they rights by writing scribbles on paper, and I'm still inclined to think that it's the majority. > Rights are things that are enforced no matter what, regardless of any cheap excuses. If the excuse of literal instant loss on attempt to enforce my rights with the power I have is cheap for you, I don't know what to say. Even if combined with someone's power, it is still not enough. To amass the power to have at least some chance to compete, someone will need a full-blown revolution, the spark of which is impossible in the age of surveillance. > Is your life worth living under these rules? Life is worth living unless someone finds a way to infiltrate into my head. As long as I have at least that, I want to live. Nothing stays forever, and if I prioritize extending my lifespan as much as possible, maybe I'll see the end of it. Maybe not. Maybe the next thing will be even worse. Maybe it's a cope, sounds definitely like one. But literally any idea can be described as cope, so it doesn't matter. > Silent disagreement is still a form of compliance, an agreement, a transaction. Yes, totally. And, as I said in previous post, disagreement in mind doesn't matter in grand scheme of things, it's still an acceptance of status quo with actions. > Silently staying under radar while being non-compliant is a very different kind of silence. I suppose that's the main (and probably the only) strategy of using the power you have. If you manage to stay under the radar the whole time, than that's definitely a win. Not many succeed, though. > Most of them thought about that. They cannot not to think. > The number of genuinely non-thinking individuals is quite small, mostly confined to special facilities for severe mental health issues and cognitive impairments. Once again, I guess I have overgeneralized. The last one is especially pretty powerfully worded, talking about some great number people as non-thinking individuals definitely was a mistake. I suppose I meant not caring, but you are right: how can anyone not care? Then they just fake it. I just agree with your points in these paragraphs, don't know what to add. > Not needed. Accepting it on personal level is obeying to it. > Nobody actually thinks it is good. I still think acceptance on personal level is about the state of mind, not the actions. One can have free mind, but not free body. But in practice the things that matter most of the time are exactly body and actions. "Forcedness is irrelevant", as you said. > People are not so much idiots. Just for some it is somehow relatively beneficial to glow Yeah, i guess so. The confession you quoted is actually very logical and compliance is indeed beneficial for those individuals, if the system keeps working, that is. No wonder they want it to keep it going. Can't even blame them, they life is arranged in the way they mostly want to, who wouldn't build their worldview like that in these conditions? It is just human behavior.

>>87772 I'm sorry, it takes a bit too a lot of time to write the proper answer. In the process of writing the answer I refined my theory of rights through paradigm shift (tl;dr: from "rights are what must be deserved" to "rights are a mathematical model (in-general - usually non-parametric) updated via Bayesian rule, just majority of actors don't realize that consciously" with some optimistic consequences (in some cases rights can be restored) ). It turned out there are quite some work on the topic from game and decision theorists. Not many, that theory is still not considered a mainstream, but the papers approximately describing my ideas do exist, so probably i should read them before writing a proper response.

>>87791 It is the most free and interesting conversation I've had in several months. Please don't feel rushed, even if I'm eager to see your answer (especially after you mentioned math models).

Not meaning to hijack your thread but western nations are also having a massive, sudden push for things like Internet ID, legitimizing mass censorship, and WEF tier digitization. >>87716 Most of the stuff you've saved is solid, personal suggestion would be an an entertainment (music/videos) archive as well. >Any sofware, codecs, compilers? 3rd party brushes for GIMP/Krita/whatever other art software. Other than that just be sure to save documentation and source code, prebuilt binaries can be hit or miss for anything that isn't Windows or MacOS (unless you're using something like appimage). Also take note of what the program's GUI toolkit is so you can archive the required dependencies beforehand. >Learning resources, books? Biggest recommendation would be historical and archeological papers, but other than that I'm not sure. >Youtube videos? Absolutely for documentaries but keep an eye on your disk space, 720p is all you need outside of special circumstances. >Games, emulators? Personally don't have any suggestions but if you have Steam be sure to crack the DRM for your games. >I won't have access to OS and package updates. Airgap your main computer/network the moment you get cut off. >>87741 >And finally, perhaps embrace the blessing that without the internet you can become less of a consumer, and more of a producer, write instead of read, draw instead of watch, develop games instead of playing them, and make new music instead of finding it. Very good point lain.

>>87834 No problem, this thread have already expanded in coverage of topics besides archival, and that's a good thing. The UK age restriction law reaction was the most loud one for sure, but it is indeed everywhere, and it's getting worse and worse. "Cause you've got everything to prove, and there's nothing you can hide" :) Thanks for archive recommendations, one question: why airgapping? I suppose I won't need internet connection on main machines anyway, I can guess what is the reasoning behind doing as soon as everything becomes sealed (good luck for me determining when is the exact moment that happens, though, I think isolation is a more gradient-like time-stretched process), but an explanation would be better than my guesses.

what worries me the most about everything being erased and digital ID being required for the internet is I can't even use the internet for basic important things like legal documents anymore. At the very best I guess we can all use I2P if we wanted to search the web

>>87741 eyyyyyy another egyptian lainon in the wild :D

>>87867 >why airgapping? I suppose I won't need internet connection on main machines anyway, My main concern is that you will become a sitting duck for exploits from state actors but I could be overreacting here.

>>87867 Perhaps the one upside to the UK age restriction law is that news has reached the Iranians and Chinese (among others), both of whom have extensive experience bypassing firewalls. Initial suggestions were simply to use SSH as a vpn of sorts (SSH to a host, point browser proxy settings to localhost:8081, mark as SOCKS5 proxy). Iranians suggested Oblivion Desktop[0], which uses Cloudflare Warp and some special routing options to choose a location. There is also a wiki style list in Persian[1]. Someone else did a brief overview on what UK censorship could look like if the government continues down the current path, as well as some options to evade it[2]. Chinese options are also interesting. V2Ray[3] seems like the most popular protocol in use, as protocols such as OpenVPN and Wireguard seem to be blocked. If you don't wish to set up your own infrastructure, there are other options[4]. >>87716 > What should I add to this archive? Others have added quite a few resources. I'd like to add some that have gone unnoticed. > Learning resources, books? > Ctrl-F "medical" > No results Archive copies of "Where There Is No Doctor"[5] and "Where There Is No Dentist"[6], both by Murray Dickson. First aid and medical care is important. Not sure if this counts as a "learning resource" per say (maybe more appropriate to classify it as "software"?), but offline copies of LLMs (and documentation on how to jailbreak them) may be helpful. HuggingFace[7] has more models than you could imagine - choose a few that can reasonably run on your hardware, and download them. Besides that - archive copies of repair manuals for your devices. iFixIt[8], Repair Wiki[9], etc. have good documentation. Buy an iFixIt screwdriver kit (or the AliExpress/cheap local equivalent) of one in case something breaks. > Youtube videos? Of course. "Videos" is a stretch, as YouTube sometimes publishes full movies and TV shows (officially, or "with ads") for free (Idiocracy (2006), for example[10]. More relevant every day, unfortunately) Use yt-dlp or some other FOSS utility to download videos. > Games, emulators? No specific games that I can think of. SsethTzeentach[11] has quite a few reviews for fun games that you may like. As >>87834 mentions, if you use Steam games, remove the DRM with Goldberg Emulator[12]. If you don't mind piracy, the Free Media Heck Yeah wiki[13] has sources on where to acquire games (as well as other forms of media). > I won't have access to OS and package updates. Stay safe, and run a proper antivirus (ClamAV[14] is nice). >>87753 CoMaps[15] (Fork of Organic Maps) can be used to download maps and navigate offline. Some other areas I didn't see mentioned: > Communication You'll need to communicate with your loved ones and neighbors. I imagine Signal may be blocked, and that internet traffic will be heavily scrutinized. Briar[16] is the original censorship-resistant peer-to-peer messaging app, which can use Bluetooth to send messages as a last resort. Please do not use a big tech solution if you can avoid it. > Mobile apps Set up a dedicated pipeline for fetching, verifying, and building open source mobile apps from source. Something like: - git clone source code for mobile apps - build mobile app from source code in generic Linux virtual machine - verify hash of locally built APK with hash of corresponding APK from official release - upload/transfer to phone Obtanium[17] does something similar, albeit without building from source. We may see an advance in smartphone technology that all of this can be done on-device with minimal concern in a fairly reasonable amount of time (say, overnight), which would be incredible. > Those around you Assuming that those around you will be going through something similar, it could be nice to ask them if they want/need something, and to teach them how to bypass censorship. There is the question of trust, but I leave this as an exercise to the reader. Godspeed, OP. Stay safe and be well. [0] https://github.com/bepass-org/oblivion-desktop [1] https://filtershekan.sbs [2] https://xcancel.com/SeerSecurity/status/1951316280595595772#m [3] https://www.v2fly.org/en_US/guide/install.html [4] https://www.old.reddit.com/r/dumbclub/comments/1coe11g/selfhosted_vpn_2024_megathread [5] https://archive.org/details/WhereThereIsNoDoctor-English-DavidWernerk [6] https://archive.org/details/Where_There_is_no_Dentist [7] https://huggingface.co/models [8] https://ifixit.com [9] https://repair.wiki [10] https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Tv5shB4Gg0 [11] https://www.ssethtzeentach.com [12] https://mr_goldberg.gitlab.io/goldberg_emulator [13] https://rentry.co/fmhy [14] https://www.clamav.net [15] https://www.comaps.app/ [16] https://briarproject.org/ [17] https://github.com/ImranR98/Obtainium

>>87716 add the doc/k/ument https://www.reddit.com/r/DHExchange/comments/1ejtk6z/a_preppers_paradise_the_ark_dokument/

>>87716 you mean the unsavoury age verification thing Ofcom's pushing through?

>>87888 with all the money you're spending on clothes you'd think you could spend a little to be able to take decent photos

>>87886 An excellent resource, lainon. Thank you for the effort post. Adding on: > We may see an advance in smartphone technology that all of this can be done on-device with minimal concern in a fairly reasonable amount of time (say, overnight), which would be incredible. If you have a reasonably recent Android phone, there is an app called AndroidIDE which can already compile many apps from source. In my testing, it took less than half an hour (usually only a few minutes) to compile an app. https://m.androidide.com https://github.com/AndroidIDEOfficial/AndroidIDE

>>87716 I think for stability sake, you'd want to use Debian as your main daily driver. with arch+gentoo/LFS docs on hands. what I'm planning on doing is writing a tool that would convert arch/gentoo(maybe Fedora too?) packages back into deb, into my own custom offline deb repo. or optionally into self-contained AppImages. I'm going to ignore flatpak because it's just too much of a hassle.

>>87886 Lot's of great points, very profound post, you even gave a link list, thank you! > Communication Signal is already blocked, yes (never used it though, the phone number requirement have always repulsed me), currently I use XMPP. > Phone stuff Most likely I'll have to use two phones, one with all spyware apps that I'll eventually be forced to download (I plan to build a faraday box just for this crap), and other one, preferably with LineageOS, for maps and other stuff. Will definitely check out how to build apps. > Godspeed, OP. Stay safe and be well. Thank you, you too. >>87887 Very interesting, will check out. >>87888 Nah, as it is pretty obvious from details I leaked in this thread, this is Russia-related. But once again, censorship is thriving everywhere, so I think this discussion is useful to anyone.

>>87894 > or optionally into self-contained AppImages you may want to piggyback off of the work already done for pkg2appimage https://github.com/AppImageCommunity/pkg2appimage

>>87716 From your list I would add repair and maintenance manuals (including ones for living organisms). Construction and engineering books. Even if you never plan on working on a car having documentation on one for someone who will is very beneficial. I use the Dewey Decimal for organizing my data. It is not at all perfect system but I can put it in front of anyone and they can easily find information on what they need. I try to fill in one section with at least 10 books every day. Either chosen with random number generator or something I feel is needed.

>>87737 Sounds a lot like p2p so what's the difference exactly here? >>87739 > or have backdoors installed in your modem. This is when one starts buying modems not provided by ISPs. How do you make sure it's robust and flexible enough so that it will continue working with evolutions in protocols for the next ten years, and how do you check for any possible weaknesses in its systems?

>>87716 All fine until there's no more power to feed your computer. If your government is really going to isolate your internet into a bubble, it's the kind of government that has already installed local systems to keep an eye on your own power usage, a system that allows the government to cut said power from a distance by the press of a button on the console of NeoStasi Agent #5210343. Make sure you will be able to power your computer and put as many files as possible on hard drives that can be easily powered by auxiliary power sources like solar panels for example. But some cheap tablet to be able to read all your content without needing to boot up your computer.

>>87752 I use ArchiveBox alongside TubeArchivist. It's good for mostly static sites.

>>87938 Buy solars. The cheapest ones nowadays start from something like $20. It's small portable ones to charge powerbanks and smartphones. For $200-500 I imagine you can get something very decent, capable of powering your laptop reasonably.

>>88040 We need local manufacturing for laser itched microchips. if every small sized city had the basic equipment that dude in his garage had on YouTube then we could maybe reach some of the earlier computers of the 70s. enough to browse forums and such. and it's totally doable. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IS5ycm7VfXg