What smartphone do you use?

It's odd that despite smartphones being so essential in society now, we don't have a single thread dedicated to them on a technology board, I figured I might aswell take matters into my own hands and make one. How do you feel about smartphones overall? What are your preferences? Discuss.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST, You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf.)

>How do you feel about smartphones overall? Considering that we have a thread on /sec/ called "Crippling your HandiNAVI General" I assume it's mostly negative >>>/sec/19118

>>87050 I use a Pixel 7a. It runs Graphene OS & has no SIM card.

this debate is pointless. phone market has been lost. some schizos go ahead and use things like graphene or lineage, but those OSes are like linux - they serve no purpose except annoy you and keep your mind occupied with petty compatibility/usability issues. after years of single minded fuarrrkery with console you stop noticing, but if you use a cumsooner OS for a while you'll feel the striking difference and the sheer amount of stupid little nuisances you submit to when you try to escape the botnet. the problem is that it serves no purpose. a phone is a pocket spy and there's no meaningful way around that in most parts of the worlds. you just have to accept it and move on. >How do you feel about smartphones overall? useless for pretty much every purpose. their original purpose - to provide means to quickly call others from anywhere - is still relevant and good, but everything else is junk and pure totalitarianism. they are inferior in every way to a normal computer. right now smart phones do not serve any purpose at all except providing means to track down your every breath. >What are your preferences? none at all. i'll use whatever works, i don't give a soykaf who spies on me. i used to use chinese bitch phones in the past, but they are miserable and lately full of annoying ads too, so i switched to burger phones, right now i stick with samsung. the OS is soykaf, but the specs are adequate for the price i paid. ironically the only times i use it is when the big daddy wants me to prove my identity for bank logins. also when calling people >Discuss. fuarrrk off nigger. i hate people like you. i hope you catch cancer and die in agony for being such a fuarrrking retarded 4channer. moron

>>87054 >It runs Graphene OS & has no SIM card. I'm trying to understand your use case (no offense). You leave your home, otherwise why own anything other than a desktop computer? Maybe you're worried about physical tracking, but then why not just put it in airplane mode so you have the capability on standby if you need it? Do you just not have mobile service?

thoughts on pinephone or other sorta free fones/similar?

I kind of want to design my own phone since I hate current smartphones and I find dumphones inconvenient for texting.

>>87062 I don't want to be tracked. Would still like to check email, web browse, GPS, etc, when I leave the house.

I use the Pixel 7a with CalyxOS. My favorite phone was the 4a but it is end of life. My thoughts on smartphones are mostly negative, but I like the convenience and it is almost a necessity.

>>87060 Pure ragebait, ironically very similar to the same 4channers you accuse others of being. Don't talk about things on an imageboard! How about you fuarrrk off, seriously. I'm glad you can say nigger though, it's very impressive.

>>87050 Probably because many here are pretty obsessed with privacy and phones are the worst offenders when it comes to. Personally just uses a cheap Poco phone. My biggest gripe with it is how much time I spend on it, not it's privacy stuff. So I've basically locked down my phone using adb and a pass lock. I just use the built in app Store to get apps and don't bother with signing i in to Google or any of those stuff. Neither do I bother with making it private. I just use as it is.

Isn't Job like a dirty indian?whoever the fuarrrk that dude is, don't what he did, fuarrrk around xerox then slap some cool stories, haha, baited zoomies into his stolen code soykafware y'll stop worship jeet lowkey gay. and pedo to boot. wont be suprised if he doe done some shat on jeff's island . never touched his soykaf. cope zoomies haha

I'll post that jeetstreet next time i see dis on catty

Actually, it lies white on my desk (the one that’s in the image in the answer above; I have the same), doesn’t get in the way, takes up little space, and unfolds perfectly like a flip. The Nokia 2720 Flip is my first and last experience in this regard, but a rather successful one. I think that in the future, of course, if WhatsApp support continues, one can try more button phones “for taste.”

Any opinions on Android's new built-in "Linux Terminal" vs Termux? It's kind of hard to find comparisons, probably due to Termux being a literal Linux terminal for Android.

>>87050 I was a long time android user since the galaxy S2 and had countless different devices (like the first moto g, other galaxy Ss, etc.) Around 2012 I tried out a iPhone just for the lulz... and I never looked back. No I have a iPhone 16 Pro. It just works and the Air Pods Pro 2 are awesome and I can use them seamless and without hassle on my MBA for working.

That opening post image bothers me so much realizing how phones used to fit on your hand. I have large hands but i still find modern smart phones extremely bad at ergonomics. They cause hand cramps holding them.

>>87063 i use a pinephone pro + keyboard case. the hardware is kinda dogshit, the plastic case is super brittile and has been breaking a lot and i had to keep supergluing bits back onto it, i eventually cut out the soft cover case so it would fit over the keyboard case and superglued it over to make it stop breaking. the cpu is also slow and overheats. i'm running the open source modem firmware, surprisingly the only problem is mms doesn't work. linux on the phone is pretty cool but there's bugs (flaky battery, flaky bluetooth, power button stops working for some reason, wifi stopped working until an update). anbox works with bugs (screen doesnt resize or rotate).

>>87294 My pinephone beta mostly works. SMS but not MMS, camera works but software updates can break it. battery not great but not terrible. Handy to have a little tiny linux box though and its a phone too.

I hate how the premise of this thread is that everyone uses a smartphone. I do use one for work (provided by my boss), but I hate the piece of soykaf. There's no way I'm using anything like it in my private life.

>>87300 >even the guy who hates smartphones uses a smartphone the phoneless are truly a dying breed

>>87300 >I hate how the premise of this thread is that everyone uses a smartphone. >I do use one for work (provided by my boss). Bingo.

>>87301 I was without a phone two decades but it eventually happens.

>>87050 I've never owned a cell phone. Never will.

2025 no smartphone with camera shutters no smartphone with low res display no smartphone with multiple usbc ports no smartphone without front camera apps require use of front camera nothing comes out of the box without some offensive monopoly tech company spying on my penis information huawei was always the best huawei still better than huawei subsidiary companies post google spat iphones are a joke buying apple products new is a joke always why does my thinkpad have a hole for sim cards why is it a secret hole on this thinkpad they were never secret before

>>87316 > no smartphone with low res display Why would you even want this? > no smartphone with multiple usbc ports For what? > iphones are a joke They have pros and cons. Security wise they are fairly good and their updates are not as short lived as Android's plus the benefit of pair locking it to your computer so data can not be just accessed at borders and airports with a quick scan. Privacy wise and customizability you'd want a custom Android rom. >buying apple products new is a joke always Apple sells refurbished products on their website under a section for it. The price is not as good as you get second hand but you get their full warranty which is good for some instances. I am not sure if it is worth it for a phone but it is for a laptop since they will do things like replace the storage if it is faulty and it's a special one they use so it would be costly to do without warranty. That's only thing Apple really has going for itself is their Apple Store service. As far as I know pretty much every other company you have to mail in what you want repaired or replaced but Apple does it on location and goes through better effort to destroy used drives entirely to recycle them. >why does my thinkpad have a hole for sim cards For wireless internet. You could get sim cards with plans that are internet only. This was more common on netbooks though. > why is it a secret hole on this thinkpad they were never secret before It likely is placed to keep it secure.

>>87327 save battery life low res display dp i meed 4k screen do i even need 1080p its using a lot of battery 2 usbc ports for extra charging cables what do you think its for a custom android rom on a 3000 dpllar telephpne with worse hardware than a 500 dollar telephone ? with all of my apple security features inside of my android rom?

>>87050 I stopped using one for several reasons >People can get a hold of you at any time anywhere and expect replies >I don't like this, I don't want this, I literally hate this and it makes me wish I was dead >I don't like my family >I don't like being spied on >I don't like keeping up with upgrades >Typing on a phone feels demeaning and humiliating >I prefer to experience the world when I go outside and not have a mini computer tempting me to stare into the endless scry mirror of pointless soykaf I don't need to know about I do not miss it at all. But I am 30 and did grow up without any kind of phone until I was like 14 so I am semi immunized from it. It wasn't so much privacy that started it, but just going out without it here and there, not missing it, coming home to a bunch of bullshit messages and realizing I'd rather just not see that. I guess I'm a luddite now officially, but I don't really care. When I think about death I don't believe spending more time reading bullshit on my phone will be a significant regret, nor will I see endless micro-conversations about nothing with family as something to have spent more time doing. I also just prefer a computer, and I like that I have to dedicate time to it so I physically can't be terminally online

>>87327 >They have pros and cons Proprietary software doesn't have pros unless you're content living as cattle. You're not allowed to know what their device does with your data. For all we know phones are stealing every valuable piece of information. There is no privacy and therefore no security to speak of.

>>87346 The most ridiculous thing is private key entry. As if other parts of the phone don't know where you're touching the screen, and the phone doesn't know what it's displaying on screen. Even if you randomized the position of the numbers it still knows.

>>87348 randomized key position is against onlookers. Prevents people observing where you press from distance to snoop on your phone later.

>>87346 There is not much difference when you don't compile from code yourself after you audited every line of the code yourself with high accuracy and are using open hardware phone to put it on with firmware on it you audited and compiled yourself, using a computer that is open hardware itself with firmware code you audited and compiled yourself. In the end you are just placing trust on others. You have to think realistically in motives. A private company has priority of profit but depending on how they run they will aim for this different ways. Cheap product companies are the ones you really want to look out for the most since they do not have a high reputation and bring down prices by malicious means while companies selling products considered high end have a reputation to maintain. So long as they do not have dominance so strong their reputation becomes irrelevant and unkillable like Microsoft then they will want to avoid any bad PR that goes against their image. The image Apple built up is around security and privacy. If they fail at these things, being that iPhone is their biggest source of income it would place a huge blow to their profits if they were ever exposed as doing anything that did not tell people they were doing. While many companies or individuals may break from their image many dont. So it depends on your threat model and what you perceive as the bigger risk to you personally. FOSS has it's merits but it isnt the end all be all like you Stallman cultist glitterboys think it is.

>>87351 Connect your toy to a logging firewall, damage control nigger. You are not allowed to know what the constant flow of requests contains on iOS, whereas Linux or BSD don't make much noise and what they do, NTP and cronjobs, can be traced back and disabled, even better, an open OS allows you to backdoor TLS and observe the contents of all traffic. If you don't have patience for basic research, drop a bad file on your iOS or MacOS device and see how many days until the police picks you up. Apple niggers will lie to your face and steal your data in the background: https://web.archive.org/web/20130609061546/https://www.cultofmac.com/230358/everything-you-need-to-know-about-apple-and-prism/ >“We have never heard of PRISM,” said Apple spokesperson Steve Dowling in a statement. “We do not provide any government agency with direct access to our servers, and any government agency requesting customer data must get a court order.” https://openclassactions.com/settlements/apple-siri-class-action-settlement.php >If you owned an iPhone, MacBook, or other Siri-enabled Apple products between September 17, 2014, and December 31, 2024 you may be owed compensation from a $95,000,000 class action settlement. Apple has agreed to the $95 million settlement to resolve a class action lawsuit alleging that its built-in AI virtual assistant, known as Siri, recorded users' private conversations without their required consent. >The class action lawsuit alleged that Siri's accidental activations resulted in the recording of confidential discussions, which allegedly may have been shared with others, including advertisers. >The class action complaint cited instances where users discussed specific products or medical treatments, only to later receive targeted advertisements related to those discussions. https://www.reuters.com/legal/apple-must-face-narrowed-privacy-lawsuit-over-its-apps-2024-09-27/ >U.S. District Judge Edward Davila in San Jose, California, dismissed nearly all claims based on the "Allow Apps to Request to Track" setting on Apple mobile devices, but let some claims proceed over the "Share [Device] Analytics" setting. >Mobile device users said Apple violated their user agreements and several privacy and consumer protection laws by assuring that disabling the settings would limit its collection, storage and use of their data - only to then ignore their choices and collect, store and use that data. >In a 39-page decision late Thursday, Davila said Apple made clear to users that the "Allow Apps to Request to Track" setting applied to "other companies' apps and websites." >He said that made it "implausible" for reasonable people to believe that by turning the setting off, they were withdrawing consent for Apple to collect their data through its own apps. >But the judge said users plausibly alleged they withdrew such consent by disabling the "Share [Device] Analytics" setting, citing Apple's disclosure that users may "disable the sharing of Device Analytics altogether." >The Cupertino, California-based company has said it collects data through that setting to improve its products and services. https://www.eurekalert.org/news-releases/1039938 >default apps collect data even when supposedly disabled, and this is hard to switch off >The researchers studied eight apps: Safari, Siri, Family Sharing, iMessage, FaceTime, Location Services, Find My and Touch ID. >The fragility of the privacy protections surprised even the researchers. >‘Due to the way the user interface is designed, users don’t know what is going on. For example, the user is given the option to enable or not enable Siri, Apple's virtual assistant. But enabling only refers to whether you use Siri's voice control. Siri collects data in the background from other apps you use, regardless of your choice, unless you understand how to go into the settings and specifically change that,’ says Lindqvist. >In practice, protecting privacy on an Apple device requires persistent and expert clicking on each app individually. Apple's help falls short. >‘The online instructions for restricting data access are very complex and confusing, and the steps required are scattered in different places. There’s no clear direction on whether to go to the app settings, the central settings – or even both,’ says Amel Bourdoucen, a doctoral researcher at Aalto. >‘It turned out that the participants weren’t able to prevent any of the apps from sharing their data with other applications or the service provider,’ Bourdoucen says. https://sneak.berlin/20230115/macos-scans-your-local-files-now/ >Apple Has Begun Scanning Your Local Image Files Without Consent >deleted direct quotes to not trigger spam filter Everybody would choose to open source all OS, except your corpo nigger employers and the NSA because their house of cards would collapse.

>>87351 You're just leading us through the labyrinth of how you trick yourself. Listen to what you're saying. MAintain reputation, with norm!es? The same people who get jabbed and raped bythe medical industrial complex daily and stared into Fauci's pitch black demonic eyes on television and then went in and got jabbed? Reputation? That's what you hang your everything on? What a fuarrrking JOKE.

>>87355 lel, and NOT TO MENTION A class action lawsuit has been brought against Apple and Samsung after independent testing by the Chicago Tribune found they were emitting as much as 500% in excess of the FCC's safety standard. https://www.chicagotribune.com/investigations/ct-cell-phone-radiation-testing-20190821-72qgu4nzlfda5kyuhteiieh4da-story.html https://topclassactions.com/lawsuit-settlements/consumer-products/electronics/916517-apple-samsung-class-action-says-phones-emit-radiation/ https://www.classaction.org/media/cohen-et-al-v-apple-inc-et-al.pdf

>>87346 >>87351 both of you are wrong. proprietary code has benefits, compatibility, widespread adoption/support, ease of use in general to cater to a computer illiterate userbase, profit motive in general incentivizes stability and holding high industry standards (recently starting to decline granted) etc. and saying "Oh well if you didn't audit and compile every single line of code, well then it's basically the same as proprietary" is also fallacious and stupid. Trusting apple is stupid. Most normgroids already believe apple is a privacy becon of hope in the darkenss and won't look into it anyways. If they were F'ing their customers up the ass (they are) most would just use rhetoric from 10 years ago to deny it's happening because people get their egos entwined with products instead of neutrally assessing the reality of a given device/product/software etc. Foss software has issues all over the place, let's be honest. If it were perfect it would be mass adopted by now but at least the principle of it is in good faith. They actually give a f to some degree. Proprietary is simple, does it make money? Can I get away with this legally or obfuscate it from the legal process? Then it's good, end of story. fuarrrk proprietary software, customers are like 5th on the list of priorities for proprietary, supporting it is arguing against your own interests unless you are a stakeholder in a company selling it.

>>87373 You obviously did not get what was meant. It isn't to say that businesses are stable but that they try to not collapse and lose profits or go bankrupt. This is common sense.

>>87374 I get it well enough, it's a completely insane statement detached from reality. The profit motive is what compels every tech giant to constantly "reinvent" their software. They need to trick people into buying the same thing over again to sustain profitability. A piece of software that never changes is software that a customer only needs to buy once.

>>87377 This is semantics interpreting "stability" to mean something else than what was meant. It's same thing that was said that you are saying.

>>87370 The biggest problem with foss is lack of marketing and user friendliness. It's gotten better but its still a massive gap between installing windows spam okay and installing arch by spending 5h typing mystic spells into the terminal. I think the people involved probably just dont care about making foss normal person friendly and its probably the right call because anything popular turns to soykaf from influx of undesirables. 50+ people also had the impression free cant be true, if you dont pay it must be a scam. And im saying this from experience because i used to do IT support for my entire neighborhood as the computer kid and they would get regulatory flustered thinking im installing something illegal or wrong if its not from micropenis/paid

>>87386 *age 50+ (body to short)

>>87386 >The biggest problem with foss is lack of marketing and user friendliness. It's hard to develop user-friendly software who respects the users freedom if the tech illiterate don't give a single fuarrrk about it. The only normal people who care about libre software are the ones interested in privacy, and even then most of them can't get a grasp of what libre software truly is, I've seen countless of millenials use Telegram and the such because FAANG is a data-collection giant without understanding why it's privacy-respecting, why is it different from the mainstream software i.e Facebook.

>>87390 you cant sell user freedom to idiots. You need to do it exactly as phones did - automated installation with defaults covering needs and toddler approved UI. That's how phones made it to mass adoption. As for why you would want that - to force corporations into compliance with your system because they want access to your users. Everyone is sucking up to ios / android now because they captured the masses. Coders put soykafton of work into making foss software and fail at the final step of delivering it in a form tech illiterate users can adopt easily which limits it to a fringe userbase.

>>87060 >they serve no purpose except annoy you and keep your mind occupied with petty compatibility/usability issues I use grapheneos. It's the only time i've not had to worry about my phone. It just works and my phone is no longer a thorn in my mind.

>>87060 You had a compelling argument for half the post and then derailed on dumb soykaf in which you seem to think that smartphones are pointless so you're gonna neither give up your phone or do anything to optimize it to your liking. What angle are you going with here?

>>87527 >What angle are you going with here? i am going with a steadily declining downwards road that leads straight to hell my friend. and at this point in time i see neither meaning nor purpose to trying to stop it. >derailed on dumb soykaf in which you seem to think that smartphones are pointless so you're gonna neither give up your phone or do anything to optimize it to your liking because they are pointless, meditate on it and you will see. smartphones could be pocket computers with an hdmi port and whatnot, and that would be super cool, but the way it is, smartphones are just pieces of soykaf. what's there to optimize, lainon? in my phone, i use: clock, text editor, browser, some gay gender confused gen-after-w retarded 0 iq messenger, camera, file manager, calculator and some soykaf for cropping images. what i do need but are forced to put up with: ai assistants, security circus with 9999 of useless levels of abstraction, hardware tracking (imei and other means of uniquely identifying you and reliably betraying your location), snowflake nodejs user interface, backdoored core services, multitudes of accounts, locked bootloader, 9999 partners who get all my data, activity tracking, 9999 "covenience" apps like i don't even remember, forced rootless mode, blackbox under the hood, silent microphone monitoring of everything i do, potentially also covertly making screenshots and camera shots to have a complete picture of my private life, could sync, forced analyzing of ALL my local data by AI to find "illegal" content etc etc etc the market is fuarrrked. and to "optimize" it, you subject yourself to a life inside a console, which defeats the very purpose of resisting the botnet. why do i need to resist it if it reduces my life to perpetual tinkering with a text based interface? fuarrrk it lainon. i'm too blackpilled

>what i do need but are forced to put up with what i do NOT need. stop gaslighting you filthy cock sucker of a government you can't just own my mind like that

>>87531 I also reached this conclusion after putting Graphene OS on my pixel 6. Suddenly there was no Poogle bot to quietly deal with the incessant robocallers and Indian scammers blowing up my decade old phone number

welcome to Lainchan. You'll fit right in >>87346 >Proprietary software doesn't have pros unless you're content living as cattle Are you implying that open source software exclusively doesn't contribute to people's cattle-like habits? LOL. I can;t imagine making the argument that someone who uses shareware or some guy's project he wants seven dollars fotr (RoughAnimator) is a pure cattle-brained moron. I cannot fathom being that conceited >>87386 >The biggest problem with foss is lack of marketing and user friendliness It's a feature >>87386 >[age] 50+ people also had the impression free cant be true They are the ones who wrote the software you use. Don't generalize; there are young people paying for Crunchyroll and ink refills out there

>>87054 >>87065 I'm sorry to say, but your phone's baseband processor still communicates with cellular networks, even without a SIM card. Although you obviously can't be identified via IMSI they're still able to see your IMEI.

>>87050 I used qin f21 pro some months ago, it was really good to stay away from all the soykaf but i feel so fuarrrking lonely, i have a gf at that moment but it wasn't enought and then i need it for bank stuff and my job give me a phone where i come back to all the old stuff i left behind. Now i have a pixel 7a with grapheneOS, i use social media again after almost a year without it, i just don't want to feel lonely but i don't really know what to do

>>87050 >go on hacker forum >brooooo i cant live without my phooooooone why have you been saying this for 10 years i cant tell if trolling or mentally ill