Opinions on Slimbook laptops?

I am looking for a new laptop. Modern consumer-grade laptops have bad durability and repairability and refurbished business-grade laptops are highly durable but usually around 3 to 7 years behind in hardware. I am european and for europe we have Slimbook as one of the options. I am considering buying the Slimbook Evo for many reasons, some of which are the specs, price, proximity to my country, outstanding customer support for answering questions, them selling spare parts for repair, etc. Whenever people comment on Slimbooks, it's always with a positive review and they tend to comment on how durable they are. So I want to ask here for those who have used a Slimbook laptop what you think of them in terms of build quality, hardware, troubleshooting, firmware, etc.

>inb4 this thread becomes a thinkpad thread

>>86262 What about Framework thread

>>86263 I have daily driven a framework for a couple years now. In my opinion its just *alright*. Its about as thick as a modern ultrabook and is normal person compatible in a coffee shop/school/work environment but the aluminum chassis is simply far inferior to that of an old thinkpad. The base laptop starts at 1,000 and if you ever need to buy a new chassis (because its flimsy as hell) that will run you another 300. Need a new keyboard because their stock one peels? Another 50$ plus 2 hours of your time undoing and redoing all the screws. I am fond of my framework but it is not aesthetically pleasing once you get over the initial dopamine hit and its not utilitarian either, its just a modern soy laptop with ram slots. Once my chassis is finally damaged beyond recognition I'll move the motherboard to my server rack and buy from some other producer

>>86286 That's good to know. While I am significantly more inclined towards Slimbooks I did hear someone else criticise the build quality of the frameworks before. It's ironic that the framework itself lasts a really long time because you can just replace the parts, but the parts themselves don't seem to last then. In the end, the cost and effort are significant.

>>86256 >Why you should you buy from us: >We pay taxes The first point they make on their website. Not very convincing.

>>86286 >2 hours of your time undoing and redoing all the screws 2 hours? There are only 5 screws, and the keyboard cover just lifts off and unplugs once you loosen them. I get that it's not completely instant, but it should only take 10 minutes at the very longest. It's certainly vastly more convenient than trying to replace the keyboard on an old Thinkpad, particularly if you want to put a classic keyboard in an x230. The biggest problem with the Framework is that the chasis is just flexible enough that when you throw your laptop in your bag the keyboard will make indents on the screen, which I didn't realize before it was too late (my last laptop was a Toughbook CF-19). With any luck they'll take the touchscreen technology from the 12 and make touchscreens for their existing models so that I can justify buying a new screen. The Framework is still the least soykafty laptop option in the present day though imo. Toughbooks and the MNT Reform are too expensive and severely underpowered, Thinkpads have gone way downhill and the older ones are becoming harder to find, and every other manufacturer is like kicking dead whales down the beach. The Framework is a good---but not perfect---modern laptop, with all that that entails.

>>86396 >The Framework is still the least soykafty laptop option in the present day though imo. Yea expensive as fuarrrk too, and if you want it shipped to you within a decade they suggest you donate additional 250USD to whatever club. Buying something decent will turn out to cost 1600-2500USD holy soykaf

>>86396 >only 5 screws You have never cleaned your framework keyboard and it shows

>>86256 I bought a Slimbook Evo, I'll post an update here when it arrives and I try it out

>>86256 >outstanding customer support for answering questions who the fuarrrk even cares about this? this is obviously a marketing thread.

>>86483 It is not a marketing thread, it was meant for me to provide an alternative to the more commonly established repairable/durable linux-friendly laptops and I got my Slimbook since last tuesday but based on your reaction I'm not going to tell about it

>>86396 Macbooks mog the absolute fuarrrk out of the soykafty ass framework laptops.

>>86286 >>86396 I've had my framework laptop for 3½ years now, and I have to agree that it's chassis isn't particularly impressive, the palm rest has started corroding on mine lmao. The promise of backwards compatible parts is what makes the price still seem worth it to me. If I can keep this machine running on (preferrably second hand) parts long enough, it will have saved me money in the long term. The FW13 was also their first product, and I had already accepted that there would probably be some jank involved in being early to the party. The newer ones come with a more durable top cover and stronger hinges, both of which can be installed on older machines. (dosent seem worth it to me IMO but its an option) I was impressed with the improvments they made to the design of the FW12, particulary with the chassis, and I'm hoping that these improvements end up in future FW13 parts as well. Overall, I see framework laptops as a sort of long term experiment in hardware design. If they are able to keep their promise of long term upgradabity then their machines will absolutely be worth it, but its still too early to tell, and I think it comes down to how much you are willing to be a guinea pig.