Altchans

Are (you) making an altchan? its a better time than ever lainons! is there a board 4chinz you want to see back? for me its a /soc/ blue board, the /dgg/ general and the /cyoar/ general >/dgg/, especially this one since i host the wiki for it how will (you) attract a minimum critical mass to your altchan anon? i hope these little pockets of effortposting dont dissipate, thyre the only things that made any of these imageboard goods i know theres like two other threads but there should be a cambrian explosion of altchans about now and there should be at least a thread to document/encourage it(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST, You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf. Leaving this thread in place, but generally you should have used the existing threads, not made a fake excuse to make a new one.)

>>85185 I am, but I don't want to compete It can be like an altchan NWA now that Hiro can't soykaf on people's heads anymore

I want /asp/ back, and the "soyfak" cringe removed.

>>85185 I wrote the code for one years ago (zig + sqlite) but actually running it would be too much of an investment, maybe in a couple years if I manage to build passive income

>>85190 Gimme about a week to work on it

>>85186 >>85192 based anon doing work >>85191 imho yea, wish there was some miraheze/fandom(but gud) turnkey solution for imageboards/forums/etc. even as a hoooooster noob its a royal pain in the ass. (ive already got my VPS hacked twice please send help). also perhaps its every programmers right to make an imageboard, but not me tho becuz too lazy

>>85185 I was in the middle of making a new frontend for desuarchive when I realized >hey isn't this like half of what it goes into making a whole altchan? I haven't done much backend however and I saw by myself how destructive a rogue cracker can be so I can't really say I'm too tempted to put it online, but I'll post the frontend if it ever amounts to something 4chan's getting back soon(probably), tho so it's a race against the clock

>>85185 >Are (you) making an altchan? No, /g/ was a terrible place, the only decent places of it were the generals. Sadly people are pieces of soykaf, when they see something where they can post anonymously, they will post the worst content unimaginable (CSAM, Gore, etc). For a reason, 4chan blocked VPNs and Tor, just because of a few people that abused those services to post an circumvent bans. I got in /g/ in 2020, I learned a lot about online privacy from it, but now, it just feels like a dumpster fire with low quality posting and people seething and fighting over anything with no real arguments and sources. The generals were probably the best place to discuss about real technology.

>>85185 Thinking about it. I'm probing the communities where I expect the relevant refugees to be. If any refugees express interest and if 4 doesn't seem to be coming back anytime soon, I'll probably begin thinking about provisioning a vichan instance for them. If there's no interest, or if 4 seems like they're making fast progress, though, I don't think I'll waste the time or money.

/f/ There's no alternative to /f/. But then again, if it's an altchan nobody will care and it will be as dead as any other altchan flash board.

>>85191 I run an in-house developed board, but I wouldn't want to use it more than as a "feature rich guestbook" with how immature the code is. If I end up making a refugee camp, it would very much be with more mature code from an established project like vichan, jschan, etc.

>>85200 It doesn't mean much, but I'd care man. I'd care alot. /f/ was the best comfiest board by a long shot. There were a few generals that were fun and comfy to hang out in, but /f/ was a whole board of comfy. I'd see things like anons posting flashes, then days later someone else posts a similar flash and specifics that it was for that first anon cause they liked the first flash. That simply does not happen on other boards. I guess it's because flashes are archaic in internet terms and making them isn't any were near as simple as making an image or even a video. Effort forces higher quality posts and all that.

started one awhile back but realized i don't want to be a full-time sys-admin playing whack-a-mole with degens and letter agents spamming dangerous material. Still would love to see some of my ideas implemented >a chan that has 1 board, except users can tag their threads, and then filter to only see tags they're interested in The downside of this would be no more unique board culture, and further converging on the idea of general threads overtaking regular one-offs. But you'd also no longer need bumping or saging, so threads could just time-out after so long with X reply count >subsequently, embracing generals as 1st class, and allowing them to be rolling with some auto post-limit culling >replacing mods and jannies with a dynamic user-weighted report system to auto-manage (some) brewing soykaf A lot of work, testing and iteration, but also a valid use-case for machine learning as well. >return of derezzed users having no read-access like older 4ch In general image-boards should stop trying to live in 2003, and adapt to what the internet is now.

>>85203 I think a cool feature would be for each board to have an anonymous IRC chat embedded on its home page for anons to use, or even one that pops up at the bottom of general threads. Text only, messages expire after 7 days, could enhance communication without chewing through general threads every few hours/days.

The closest things I had to home for the last year or so were just lurking random threads on /vr/ that would catch my eye and always keeping the most recent /bag/ thread open mainly for news. While I was never a frequent poster there either I did overall enjoy the community on /bag/ and hope those anons can find a nice home for themselves.

>>85185 most people do not have the grit to stick with and wage slave a board for years while having only 5 users that post twice a week. adding features or specific boards is nowhere near as important to the average user as the board being active, that's why half the refugees here will bolt the second 4chin is back up (especially the people who vehemently claim otherwise). and i say this as someone who happily spent years on forums that had less than 15 users.

I always wanted to write a bunker for my niche interest.

>>85197 >/g/ I feel like AI destroyed /g/. Once chatgpt and dalle came out that was all that was ever talked about.

>>85213 i think it saved /g/. I love ai

is there a altchan with an active /ptg/ thread? should we move here?

>>85213 the board died long before ai but it was never good in the first place. a thing lainchan got right was to separate programming, cybersec, diy and consumer_products into their own boards. /g/ always had a problem with covert marketing but crypto and ai completely annihilated the more λ/Δ/sec oriented side of it

>>85185 I feel like I'm back in 2010 when everyone was hanging out on IRC and have had their own little imageboard running. That's when I started learning PHP as well. Had original Wakaba running and thought I was the coolest.

>>85185 I've thought about it. I'd want to write the board software myself to incorporate different features, but I have too much on my plate currently so I'm probably not going to get around to it. The features would mostly be focused on reducing the need for manual moderation in terms of the image content posted by users (I wouldn't particularly care what people type, as it is much easier to filter out bad text as opposed to bad images). >>85203 has some ideas that are similar to mine that I'd incorporate, but I'd focus more on helping moderation as I would assume my site would be small (at least to start out): >limit image uploads to only be direct links to boorus (I know this is boring, but it'd curtail pizza, gore, etc at least until more moderators are added) >a sophisticated auto-sage system so the same threads don't clog up the catalog (the exception would be generals) >a user "suspicion" system where a user's suspicion level is based on things like post rate, text content compared against some database of spam by some automated analysis, etc.

Write a quick 4chan clone and advertise it on plebbit and twatter and make sure the moderation team isn't a bunch of wankers. Everything will be great and cool. Oh and make sure to do a deal with the feds otherwise it's likely your chan will be spammed with you-know-what by you-know-who.

>>85197 I miss /hsg/ (home server general). That thread helped me out a lot and had some good discussion. Had its share of nonfat-soykaf drinkers but not that bad.

>>85251 >>85204 >I've thought about it. I'd want to write the board software myself to incorporate different features i was thinking of an email/chan/ where you register to post with an email (any email even temps, though personal emails with your name in it or corporate account emails would probably be derezzed) and you can make posts, however if you want to PM a user for a follow up to a non-soykaf post you can just email them as their mailto is displayed with every post. i was thinking of it in the context of a /soc/ style board, but instead of a discord/snapchat/kik drezzed thread you could just email them. the mailto: would probably have to be hidden when browsing anonymously to stop spam armies

>>85185 I have this archive that can be turned into a 4chan clone quite quickly. I don't see managing a live 4chan site as a fun task though. The archive is enough. https://ayasequart.org/

>>85202 It seems that some /f/ags are gathering around on swfchan, heyuri and the last archived thread on 4plebs.

>>85197 >I got in /g/ in 2020 Huh, same. I think I started browsing it around that time but only switched full time at around 2021. I think this was still the time before the AI flood because I remember going there one day and being shocked at how almost every thread is AI related.

I miss /wg/. Was one of the best places to get wallpapers from. Unless someone wants to step up and do it himself, I might make an imageboard for wallpapers.

>>85251 >limit image uploads to only be direct links to boorus (I know this is boring, but it'd curtail pizza, gore, etc at least until more moderators are added) I do think moderation is probably the hardest thing for any altchan. Without it, it's bound to get shut down quickly or soykaf up by people who just want to see the world burn. This is only a problem with imageboards, mind you - text-only boards are pretty tame by virtue of having no images. I'd like to see those make a comeback. Maybe heretical of me to say but I wonder if a machine learning model could be helpful for moderation. One trained to flag any potentially illegal image content. Make it really aggressive at first, autoban people that it flags.

I miss /g/. None of the altchans have much activity

I won't mass reply but I noticed a few lainons mentioning issues with running an imageboard. I know that the sharty has curtailed all CP spam by forcing all images to go through mod approval. Takes less than a minute in most cases. There's a thread up there where they're trying to parse through the 4chan source code but they're having issues. I sense that lainons have more experience with backend programming, they just don't have the energy to be the janitors. Maybe a team up is in order? last thing I want is 8chan be the successor.

>>85294 don't think there would be any gain on parsing 4chan's sourcecode, it can't legally be used anyway because it's proprietary. >sharty image moderation always seemed like a last resort to me, you'd need active janny moderation 24/7 to approve images. >last thing I want is 8chan be the successor. i don't think there will be a "new 4chan" where everyone congregates on. sure the sharty and 8chan's clones will get a boost but i think everyone will be more dispersed overall.

>>85295 >don't think there would be any gain on parsing 4chan's sourcecode There's actually a treasure trove of non copyright tricks and insights they've used to make it all run. Something that any hobbyist should know. >always seemed like a last resort to me, you'd need active janny moderation 24/7 to approve images. For any small image board you should be aware of everything going on. CP attacks happen to all altchans because feds don't want more than 2 honeypots. >i don't think there will be a "new 4chan" where everyone congregates on I'm sure 4chan will return in a week or so anyway. I'm just surprised that there's no real runner up that was prepared to take 4chan. sharty is just /s4s/ and 8chan is ebola. Every other chan is defunct or overly strict, and I don't want enforced politeness like here. I want 4chan but slightly more chill for making memes. I hate how certain "pets" are treated more favorably on some websites. If you challenge or even question them you get reddit where mods force compliance. sorry, rant over.

>>85298 >picrel Most sites do that it's just called caching

>>85298 >There's actually a treasure trove of non copyright tricks and insights they've used to make it all run. Something that any hobbyist should know. true point >For any small image board you should be aware of everything going on. CP attacks happen to all altchans because feds don't want more than 2 honeypots. i'm aware of this, just manually approving every image posted is not sustainable in the long run unless you scale up the manpower; you need a technical solution for the issue. >I'm sure 4chan will return in a week iirc the official timeframe was 12-14 days, and even when it does come back a sizable chunk will have permanently migrated. >I'm just surprised that there's no real runner up that was prepared to take 4chan. probably because glowies ensured that 4chan would have no proper competitor because of CP spam. >I hate how certain "pets" are treated more favorably on some websites. If you challenge or even question them you get reddit where mods force compliance. sorry, rant over. understandable and agreed.

>>85298 ill be frank fam a big issue with anonymous imageboards in general is that soykafting them up takes nothing. the only thing stopping an IB from turning into a completely unusable soykafhole that's nothing but spam, botting and the most predictable and socially dysgenic attention-catching, conversation-ruining, culture-destroying tricks is some degree of moderation. the only thing giving these places any identity are the biases from the mods and jannies. 4chan was an awful fuarrrking place chock-full of the worst sh1lling and baiting because that's what mods liked and enforced. lain might come off as too much of a hugbox but that's part of the point, having to use more than half a worn out brain cell to post is what differentiates it from other places. same with 8moe's free board creation and freeze-speach, all-refugees-welcome MAP adjacent halfwits at the helm. zzz's dick-choking z00mz. etc. even the language in this post is toxic. using these words invites in the people who use them and the worlds they use them in. the point with altchans is that you pick your flavor.

>>85185 I've been setting up a Kareha based website. Not related to 4chan shutdown, actually inspired by the shutdown of the little known Post Office textboard. I am going with textboard because I don't want people to post CP while I'm asleep and it to stay there all night.

>>85300 >manually approving every image posted is not sustainable in the long run unless you scale up the manpower; running a website is definitely like raising a baby, going to need to be very hands on for the first couple years. I think their solution, while inelegant, has worked well enough. So far there hasn't been an automated system that works. You know, it's strange, everyone is sort of aware that the internet has shrunk down into a handful of big websites (facebook, twitter etc). But we're part of a subculture that just wanted to make our own websites and enjoy our own hobbies and the feds literally sent illegal content to shut down numorous altchans to prevent anyone from doing their own thing. Makes you wonder how many other stories are the same. Someone makes an alternative and it gets shut down through sabotage

>>85301 I don't know what my problem is but I enjoyed 4chan up til the end. I like that brewing soykaf and effortposting can coincide in the same space. I like how the userbase was largely comprised of white dudes who were all on the same page, with the same ideas and same understanding of what is good and what isn't. Yeah there were lots of soykaf that ruined it, namely mods forcing their favorite memes on the users while banning and deleting organic memes made recently. I get that people want a space to talk seriously and mods need to enforce that, but there needs to be room to breathe, to have fun. I enjoyed winterball in 2013, I enjoyed the cross board april fools day event. Soyjaks should have been allowed on 4chan, there was a point where pepe and wojak was insta 404'd. These aren't organic decisions. The mods are dictating culture. Now the soyjaks literally killed that fuarrrking site to spite them because they became reddit mods. I hope those stupid cunt mods take a fuarrrking hint but they won't. They're setting up perma ban word filters for anyone who even types soyjak. Instead of admitting that they've derezzed too far they're just going to step up which will really kill the site

>>85312 Jaks and frogs are derezzed on most altchans, 4chan just didn't have the manpower to delete them everywhere, let me remind you they got kicked out of the site for raiding other boards in the first place.

>>85298 >"muh feds are spamming cheese pizza on my 0 pph altchan to keep us shackled, yo!" it's a commercial spammer you retard if you don't want to worry about cp spam then don't set up your imageboard on a godaddy domain and a $2 vps from a contabo reseller that suspends your account on the spot after 1 report

>>85300 >i'm aware of this, just manually approving every image posted is not sustainable in the long run unless you scale up the manpower; you need a technical solution for the issue. There is a solution. It's called Section 230. Anything posted is the legal responsiblity of the poster, not the website. Manually approving everything is Chinese style censorship in a nutshell.

>>85281 >Maybe heretical of me to say but I wonder if a machine learning model could be helpful for moderation. One trained to flag any potentially illegal image content. Make it really aggressive at first, autoban people that it flags. I've thought about that but I don't think running some sort of machine learning model would be worth it in terms of cost - too computationally intensive/slow. Plus then you run into the issue where, you know, need training data... I think the optimal solution (and the one that I've been mulling over) is to employ some type of locality-sensitive hashing mechanism fed into some statistical model that compares the text post to some database of known spam, which contributes to my aforementioned "suspicion" system, to quantitatively ban users. I'd streamline the ban appeals process so that innocent users/moderators can reconcile but keep the bad actors out. >>85294 >I know that the sharty has curtailed all CP spam by forcing all images to go through mod approval. Takes less than a minute in most cases. I guess that helps cut down on it, but it's still subject to human error. And - if it were my board - I wouldn't want any of it within 1000ft of my tech stack. I'd rather play it safe, and run a text board, or limit the image sources. >>85298 >There's actually a treasure trove of non copyright tricks and insights they've used to make it all run. Something that any hobbyist should know. Care to explain this? I haven't taken a look at the source code yet.

>>85316 Explain what a commercial spammer is and why it's spamming CASM

>>85316 >it's a commercial spammer you retard Someone quite recently appears to have been going around intentionally using hard to spot CP images and using them to facilitate report abuse to registrars and hosting providers. You're right in that much of it is commercial though.

>>85320 That one's pretty simple, and it's been a matter of discussion across several alt-chans' meta boards over the past year. More or less, it's pay-per-download scams. Basically, there's site that, likely for soykaf like being able to service ads to downloaders, they pay a comission to uploaders of something like $0.10/DL or something like that. Spammers in general use all sorts of soykaf as bait for this, but CP is just another angle. The spammer will load up a rar, often not even with real CP, and host it somewhere, and then spam CP bait images to get people to DL it. Every time a horny pedo falls for it, the spammer gets a bit of money. This has been a known routine since ~2009, and iirc, there's even a playbook out there on how to do it written by some brazillian teen or something that got notorious for it.

>>85322 hold up - you're saying there's a site that commissions "uploaders" who will unwittingly or wittingly upload CASM material on altchans for money? At what stage does the fbi get involved? And why is this so prolific?

>>85325 nah, it's stuff like where a host that serves ads pays you a small amount per download since they can serve the downloader an ad. these sites are intended for legit file hosting and it's usually against their TOS to do soykaf like this, but one way to min-max the system and turn over profit is to load up some random porno and spam links to a high CPM forum. The pay per download hosts aren't specifically paying people to upload CP, they're just adservice users.

>>85320 does it need explaining? what didn't you understand? if you've never seen what i'm talking about then you can take a look at what the posts look like on xj9k xj9k.neocities.org/tags/cp (obviously the advertised links are redacted and the thread pic isn't shown) this type of spam has been going on for well over a decade >>85321 >Someone most likely someone from the Sharty Cinematic Universe that site manages to gather the most insufferable types of contrarian teens together in a single orbital point cp spam seems to be next logical step when the "dead nigger baby" spam doesn't work

>>85327 >xj9k I love this fella lol. Is he still working on getting an API together for it, or does anyone know?

>>85197 Former /g/ janny Got fired for... I don't know what. Just got fired

>>85318 >text board Do any non dead ones exist?

>>85333 They're all lively, they just speak in entish.

>>85311 >So far there hasn't been an automated system that works. there won't be a silver bullet, but imo blocking AWS based traffic would cut out the automated spambots at least >>85322 genuinely nasty, do they use AWS?

How is cloudflare csam tool like? It claims it blocks it to the public so no one can report you to take your website down but at the same time they report you to some org that's supposed to do something with it?

>>85185 I uhhh actually am, but I'm unsure about the database structure and what fields I need for each table. Do you think posts and threads are separate tables or maybe a post has a boolean field that indicates it being a thread? and if so, how are replies connected to a thread? maybe im too stupid for this soykaf, fuggg

>>85351 The same, post table has a foreign key to itself called parent or thread, if it is null it's a thread else a post to a thread.

>>85351 A board is an array of threads and an array of posts. A thread is an array of references to posts. To support linking to posts across different threads, posts have a unique ID.

>>85349 how do i set up cloudflare for my tor imageboard

I liked GIF and WSG I would come home from work and open a couple threads of each up and have a few beers. Found a lot of new music from those ones

>>85349 file hashes and lookup tables

>>85360 I guess it is the same, especially since you don't have to rewrite IPs since they're meaningless on tor.

>>85256 I'm probably going to restart /hsg/ here or on the sharty until we get 4chan back. Can't let that resource die, too many retards need it.

>>85185 I want to see /sci/ or just some math related board with LaTeX support. Mathchan has all that but seems to have disabled posting for the time being

>>85336 >genuinely nasty, do they use AWS? Unsure. This is just a general trend that's been discussed among some alt-chan admins over the course of the year. Who it's coming from will tend to vary by what wave of spam you're talking about. Packethub S.A, OVH and M247 were mentioned as prominent in one thread I've been reading. It looks like the most expedient way to whack'em is to just mass ban datacenters and tor. Adding all of this to UFW seems like a good hammer for screwing with spammers in general: https://github.com/X4BNet/lists_vpn/blob/main/output/datacenter/ipv4.txt That said, there's definitely chans that explicitly don't want this. Lain, for instance, does allow Torposting. Not sure how appleman accomplishes it or what config modifications lainchan has, though. >>85351 In my homebrew imageboard, each board is a table. Tables are pic related. tid determines whether a post is a top level post or a reply. If tid=0, it's top level. If not, then the tid=post_id of the post that it's a reply to. timestamp is the unix time of the post's creation. bumper is the unix stamp of the time of the most recent reply post's creation. most of the other fields should be understandable. several rows are redundancies from previous versions of the software I've just not removed. These are: date and board. Date stored the human readable date of post creation, but this can be programmatically derived from the timestamp. Board was going to be a method for indexing posts to different boards, but this ended up complicating moderation tools, so I nix'd that idea and just use message_[board name] duplicates of this table now to do seperate boards, although this is indefinitely incomplete, since I'm probably just going to deploy vichan if I decide to make a full on chan.

4chan refugees looking for a new home, I see.

>>85387 Nah please keep your aids docker bloat cancer far away from here

>>85243 >>85185 maybe the imageboard format is outdated? I mean 4chan & it's jannies really was keeping all the other altchan afloat. I also think the userbase was way smaller then we might have thought. something like only 30% human

>>85418 I don't even use or need docker, but is that sincerely your most pressing gripe about /hsg/ of all the 4chan generals?

thank god for this thread and lainchan and lainons in general. I think now is probably a good time for altchan landscape to improve a bit. I don't think the site is ever coming back I miss nanochan a lot, it was nice having an onion chan that didn't have anything gross I miss /hsg/ and a few other threads. I always came here more for reading tech threads. I miss parts of /lmg/ because it was silly and some peoples rigs and GPU clusters were cool. I miss a lot of things but the site has been 'dead' a long time. I remember it in 2010 but not before >>85420 I don't think so, I think a certain type of person needs someplace to post without an account. I might just be ignorant but it feels like the most active imageboard now is that russian 2ch. I don't wanna go sharty route and sift through literal soykaf >>85422 I don't think lainons appreciate refugees much, but it's okay. I think another (or a new) altchan would be a better fit, because here is a very specific culture. I like this chan a lot but I don't post here much because lainons kinda keep to their own crowd I feel like

>>85423 >I don't think lainons appreciate refugees much, but it's okay. I think another (or a new) altchan would be a better fit, because here is a very specific culture. I like this chan a lot but I don't post here much because lainons kinda keep to their own crowd I feel like Completely fair, I 100% respect that. Was just spit-balling, more than anything. It was maybe one of two ore three threads worth keeping on /g/ and I hope the user base doesn't spread to the winds before a new home can be found.

>>85424 I was feeling pretty despondent a minute ago but reading through this thread gives me a bit of hope. I don't want to see 8chan's corpse get an influx of fresh blood. There's a fine line where you want a good amount of banter in those sorts of threads and this chan isn't the place for it from what I've gauged over the years I agree with anons that say the cp spam is an issue and is orchestrated/professional, I've seen small chans disappear and later on that was the story someone said, can never fully know myself but I've heard so many horror stories and even the sharty has their way of dealing with it. As much as I'm really not interested in being there, limiting images to mod approval is not a terrible idea. It would be nice if small sites could actually contact feds and use the many tools developed to automatically detect and remove that stuff. But sadly they might very well be the problem. The idea of a chan with "approved" images available isn't a bad idea, but it becomes a textchan for most people and makes explicit boards very ineffectual (and annoying to moderate). Of course people might not want that in an altchan but the 4chan refugees will want a chan that has nsfw boards available

You people are delusional. 4chan isn't going anywhere.

>>85329 /g/ has gone to soykaf how long ago were you fired

>>85363 wsg is comfy and they killed gif with the 5 page limit no one really knows why they did that either

I'm missing /fwt/. It was one of the comfiest generals on /g/ and seeing Hotaru pics always improved my mood. I wonder if fwt anon isn't here.

>>85395 >That said, there's definitely chans that explicitly don't want this. Lain, for instance, does allow Torposting. Not sure how appleman accomplishes it or what config modifications lainchan has, though. i think kohlchan has the best approach to pseudonymous posting with anonymous networks. they generate an argon2d hash and you have to crack it. so, your average PoW solution, but with an intentionally pain in the ass algorithm for hashcracking. if you are a troublemaker, your session will be revoked and you'll have to solve another hash. obviously a dedicated person will just keep cracking hashes, but this approach makes it considerably harder for troublemakers as the poster is no longer able to just CTRL+SHIFT+R to get another node and keep spamming

Out of respect for our more quiet friends here on lainchan, /hsg/ has been temporarily reopened on the tech board of sharty - far and away from here.

>>85388 Why Latex and not MathJax? Stackoverflow uses the latter for user posts.

>>85395 >Lain, for instance, does allow Torposting. Not sure how appleman accomplishes it or what config modifications lainchan has, though. It's very simple. Within an Nginx server block, just add your onion address to the server_name directive.

>>85537 What do you think mathjax's syntax is?

>>85450 Hotaru stands with cool elegance, violet eyes sharp beneath soft bangs. Her outfit is prim, ruffles, ribbons, and dark stockings, but there’s a quiet heat beneath it all. The rose in her hair whispers of danger, the curve of her lips dares you to look closer. She’s not just poised, she’s magnetic. A beautiful mystery wrapped in silk and shadows.

>>85352 I would avoid this approach personally. It seems reasonable at first, but you'll regret it once you hit that infinitely deep join on parent posts. To a lesser extend, you also have to worry about circular refrences on your parents.

>>85602 Imageboards are transient, bump limits and pages make it so you never have to query more than a few thousand rows at a time. Also no need for joins, just query all the posts with a null parent to make a catalog and all the posts that belongs to a parent to load a thread, since posts and threads share so many attributes it is the only way to comply with formal normalization.

Why doesn't someone make a meta altchan which aggregates threads from every altchan's topic board. Like /g/ from half, /tech/ from fullchan and a bunch of other imageboards but the UI doesn't let you know immediately where the thread is from so you can participate without any barriers Although i wonder if such a thing would degrade the individual culture?

what's the least bloated software these days? picochan seems nice on top of seemingly being pretty easy to extend if you need to. >>85653 i think that's sort of the point of the webring (which imo is a better design than 8chan when it comes to board creation)

>>85653 I believe HSTS gets in the way of something like that at least on pure clientside JavaScript, if you do it on the server captcha and IP bans will get in the way. Only a standalone program can do something like that.

4chan now says "See you soon!" I'm happy that /f/ and /sci/ won't die.

>>85738 I mostly browsed /diy/ and /ck/

>>85738 For me, its /g/'s home server general, and /k/.

>>85329 >Fired But you were a jannie, you did all of that work for free, unpaid. That's kinda sad

>>85193 >imho yea, wish there was some miraheze/fandom(but gud) turnkey solution for imageboards/forums/etc. You're describing 8chan etc.

>>85738 I have some bad news for you...

>>85942 8chan having a system where anyone could make a board and moderate it always rubbed me the wrong way. it was very reddit

>>85944 I think it's neat for niche communities that don't need a whole website to themselves but still need more than just a general.

>>85943 ): Hopefully our attempts in 4/g/SWF end in something meaningful.

>>85945 it makes sense, and i know in theory i should support it because it lowers barrier to entry and whatnot. i know libpol has a similar formula and wish them all the best for it

>>85949 I'm not familiar with libpol, what is it?

>>85970 libpol.org (fka brainworm.rodeo) is a "live board" meaning that posts can be edited in real time as you're posting, so that you can have conversations with people looking at the same threads you are. it's decent and a cool idea, but I wonder if they plan to change the name soon. the admin browses here iirc

>>85197 >2020 >/g/ was a terrible place it wasn't always like that, I was there around 2010 and it was very decent it started going to soykaf years before AI tho >>85333 >Do any non dead ones exist? it would be my dream

>>85974 visited it a few times, bit hard to navigate but it has interesting concepts like the video feature. only thing that i don't agree with is how anyone could make a board because that's how you get fragmentation. >the name iirc the admin chose that name because it was "baity" but i do agree that it needs to be changed. >>86265 going to be honest you're gonna have to learn at least some technical skills, as for the features most of them seem doable, for example you could make the default "delete post" just hide it from everyone else's view.

>But I have no technical knowledge whatsoever..and u just memorized syntax for some plaintext lang, thats all that software phyaggots consider requisit 4 bein an engineer

>>86317 actually, software engineers are the only engineers in the world who call themselves engineers while not engineering anything. sure there are a lot of incompetent people in every field, but programming is the only place where the very concept of engineering is broken.

miladychan is the beginning of the future of imageboardom

>>85185 Working on github.com/hashchan/hashchan >how will (you) attract a minimum critical mass to your altchan anon? Appealing to effortposting anons disenfranchized by current chans. Speaking and attending in person blockchain events. Remaining alive and impervious to illegal content flooding and platform liability as other chans shut down to bot ddos and draconian legislators. 5 year push basically- web2 eats itself and the most efficient web3 project remains

>>86707 Probably the first imageboard that I've ever seen who doesn't load even a little bit without Javascript enabled. You turned a creative idea into possibly the worst imageboard to ever grace this earth, congrats.

>>86709 Its designed to run from localhost first and its build your own client. It bypasses stallmans javascript trap this way. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/javascript-trap.en.html Only spook in the package is walletconnect for mobile integration Hashchan.org is just for demo purposes to try it out

what is effortposting? i only post on ibs to wage slave my ideas, i dont actually expect any intelligtent dicussion (im starter than all of u btw)

>>86724 >ibs do you have that? >intelligtent *intelligent >starter *dumber

>>86710 >bro it just needs a browser that takes 48 hours to compile [autistic reasoning intensifies]

>>86726 Interesting, thanks for the feed back and i presume doing an npm run dev. Web3 dev gets gnarly really quick once you start building outside the current state of webdev . Pretty solid arguement to do an ultra thin web app and a background server (maybe go) Mind if i ask for the hardware spec that its making it take for it to load?

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>>86897 >visit from PC using mullvad browser >redirect to ebay Your gay site has never been relevant please kill yourselves do world a favor

Demo: https://sriracha.rocket9labs.com/img/ Download: https://codeberg.org/tslocum/sriracha Features: - Upload files matching MIME type whitelist - Embed external media (YouTube, Vimeo and SoundCloud) - Reference links >>### - Report posts - CAPTCHA - Overboard - Plugin system - Thread catalog - Oekaki (drawings) - Fetch new replies automatically - Translate into additional languages - Management panel

>>86897 we also have a guy with a camera. He hasn't posted in a while >>86907 Are you that one guy with the tiny ass monitor?

Any of you want to help test the potential new leftypol textboard? There's a /tech/ http://ozlhzl2ufuyk7ovhg5mtzywiu6hevibr5xknrd64ge2qp4myjkzbgfqd.onion/tech/2/

>>87051 >leftypol haha yeah that sounds like a blast. I'll be over in a jiffy... not.

>>86913 awesome, i can't believe you're still making these. dunno what the use of the forum feature is, though.

>>87080 Shame they completely fuarrrked their community with censorship. If one didn't know any better, they might think some spooks weaseled into the moderation team in order to deliberately wreck the site.

>>87080 I think I would have more interest if your board had more focus on being a new home for the people who lost their home board after textboard.org bit the dust. Leftypol and getchan still exist, I just don't see the point of yet another one of these, but there is a dire lack in having a replacement for /prog/ (with the exception of Lain/lambda/ maybe, but even then it's different "vibe", a different atmosphere, a different feeling, than /prog/ used to be. I appreciate that it's a textboard though, I always found them a lot more engaging and fun than imageboards.

>>86913 i threw this up in a test environment. it's not bad and actually pretty elegant and fast BUT the mod panel is kinda dire. there should be a way to at least select multiple posts to moderate. posting as a mod also exits out of moderation mode which is kinda annoying. also the plugin system is nice but it's kinda pointless if i can't pick which boards have them enabled. what if i don't want fortune or bbcode on every board?

>>86913 way too much stuff wrapped up in <summary> tags for no good reason