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What websites does Tech Lore go on exactly? He always recommends Tor browser, which ok fair enough, but then all the websites don't allow you to use them. For example: >youtube Always thinks I'm a bot and wants me to sign in to even watch let's a say a Tech Lore video >imageboards either you are blocked or derezzed entirely or cannot post on them (except this one I suppose?) >online presence (e.g. email, social media, messaging apps) They recommend to not use Tor to login to anything. Especially non-anonymous accounts like linkedin or firstnamelastname@email. Back when I had Facebook, it would think I have a security issue every time I logged in. In fact, I even almost got locked out. I eventually deleted Facebook. >gaming Requires scripts that Tor blocks >even tech lore's own website Doesn't even load at all on Tor IDK what Tor-friendly websites even exist. There are hardly any websites on Dark Fail, and most of them are permanently offline anyway

I strictly use the Tor Browser with the Safest parameter "No JS, webGL restrictions etc" it can definitely be a burden for people that want it to just work but here >all the websites don't allow you to use them They don't allow you to use Tor, not the Tor Browser. You can disable Tor via about:config by setting network.proxy.socks_remote_dns and extensions.torlauncher.start_tor if you browse with JS on then all of the sites that used to block you will now allow you to interact with them. If you want to keep Tor enabled, you might want to press Ctrl+Shift+L until you get a circuit that allows you to access the site >Always thinks I'm a bot and wants me to sign in to even watch let's a say a Tech Lore video A new circuit will help, although, if you want to keep JS off, then you can use torsocks yt-dlp {URL} (keep in mind that you still have to get a good circuit) >either you are blocked or derezzed entirely or cannot post on them (except this one I suppose?) There's no solution for this, you'll have to stick to lainchan, kohlchan and lambdaplusjs. >They recommend to not use Tor to login to anything. [...] it would think I have a security issue every time I logged in Yeah, that's why. You have to realize that there's an overwhelming amount of criminality going on with Tor so most sites will just block it out of safety (or heavily handicap it) >IDK what Tor-friendly websites even exist We don't know either, but picking a browser that offers security for literal criminals does obviously come at some cost (that being usability), I gave you some workarounds but you have to realize that you won't be using the internet in the same way if you decide to stick with the Tor Browser

>>83416 Forgot to add >They recommend to not use Tor to login to anything That's stupid.You can login to anything as long as the said account doesn't share IP's/emails/anything traceable to your real life identity.

Put a proxy between tor and the bozos.

if i had the budget of a techtuber then I would purchase a VPS with monero to have as an exit proxy, so websites wouldn't treat me as a tor connection. a VPN would also work although many websites block VPN traffic, too. I can't say he does this, but technical workarounds are possible

I use Tor Browser and Tor for most of my browsing, and it works fine. When I find a site that blocks Tor or doesn't load without JS, I just move on to the next one. >youtube There are some invidious instances that work over Tor. Unlike what >>83416 says, you can NOT use torsocks yt-dlp https://www.youtube.com/... Google won't let you. >email, messaging apps Use a separate app for that, not a web browser. For anything that requires you to keep a consistent identity, and on which you once logged-in from a plain IP, using Tor is mostly useless. It can still be useful to bypass a firewall though, which is why Facebook (used to?) have a .onion >gaming/scripts I assume you're talking about Tor Browser. You can enable javascript either for a single website or globally >even tech lore's own website It works fine for me. It can happen you get a "bad" exit node. When that happen, change circuit. >>83416 >Tor Browser without Tor Why do you use it instead of firefox or another fork?

>I would purchase a VPS with monero to have as an exit proxy The point being...? Website sees all your traffic coming from the same IP, just as if you weren't using a proxy at all.

>>83421 >Why do you use it instead of firefox or another fork? It's hardened and also removes all of the Mozilla telemetry.

>>83422 I am presuming your point is: the websites can correlate your activities together because they're from the same VPS, and then they can build a profile for you and guess at who you are from big data. The solution for this would be a sort of pay-per-circuit proxy service, but even with monero is isn't obvious (at least to me) how to set up micropayments that micro without linking circuits together. Maybe somebody with more cryptography knowledge could take a crack at it. The slather-anywhere magic grease that is trusted computation wasn't really big with the privacy enthusiasts last time I checked, so I'm discounting that as a fallback.

>>83424 idk if you've heard about it, but Mullvad partnered with the Tor Project to make a non-Tor Tor browser called Mullvad: https://mullvad.net/en/browser. After trying out arkenfox, librewolf, and mullvad, Mullvad is most similarly hardened to Tor browser.

>>83421 >Unlike what >>83416 says, you can NOT use torsocks yt-dlp https://www.youtube.com/... Google won't let you. Works on my machine OpenBSD$ torsocks yt-dlp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7icbt7ykaMc file[89866]: pledge "inet", syscall 32 file[6880]: pledge "inet", syscall 32 file[33868]: pledge "inet", syscall 32 file[85667]: pledge "inet", syscall 32 file[32044]: pledge "inet", syscall 32 file[23479]: pledge "inet", syscall 32 [youtube] Extracting URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7icbt7ykaMc [youtube] 7icbt7ykaMc: Downloading webpage [youtube] 7icbt7ykaMc: Downloading ios player API JSON [youtube] 7icbt7ykaMc: Downloading mweb player API JSON [youtube] 7icbt7ykaMc: Downloading player 9c6dfc4a WARNING: [youtube] 7icbt7ykaMc: Signature extraction failed: Some formats may be missing [youtube] 7icbt7ykaMc: Downloading m3u8 information [info] 7icbt7ykaMc: Downloading 1 format(s): 248+251 [download] Destination: 1965 [7icbt7ykaMc].f248.webm [download] 100% of 20.72MiB in 00:00:04 at 4.99MiB/s [download] Destination: 1965 [7icbt7ykaMc].f251.webm [download] 100% of 2.46MiB in 00:00:00 at 4.85MiB/s [Merger] Merging formats into "1965 [7icbt7ykaMc].webm" Deleting original file 1965 [7icbt7ykaMc].f251.webm (pass -k to keep) Deleting original file 1965 [7icbt7ykaMc].f248.webm (pass -k to keep)

>>83425 >how to set up micropayments that micro without linking circuits together not to be a second person wage slaving mullvad, but isn't this their entire business model? i guess you're supposed to use the same account but nothing is stopping you from just rolling a new account every time you need a new identity

>>83433 I guess I had forgotten about this, thanks lainon...

>>83414 >either you are blocked or derezzed entirely or cannot post on them (except this one I suppose?) There's other imageboards which allow tor posting. I think that imageboards which don't allow anonymous posting are honeypots (ex: 4chan). >Always thinks I'm a bot and wants me to sign in to even watch let's a say a Tech Lore video You can use invidious. >gaming >online presence (e.g. email, social media, messaging apps) I recommend to not use tor browser for that kind of things. I use tor browser for most things like downloading books, watching videos, imageboards, and looking stuff up that I want to learn about because feds can see what you do on the clearweb and I value my privacy. You get used to tor being slow and many websites work with no javascript.

This doesn't deserve its own thread, whatever it replaced surely had a more engaging discussion. Nonetheless, the TOR browser is not made for daily browsing unless you make various concessions. It should also be noted that most of these soy techtubers have very little understanding of how browser fingerprints, or the internet as a whole, even work. They often just throw in buzzwords like 'TOR', 'Monero', and, 'Dark Web' to farm clicks from uninformed users, and techlore is no exception i can't stand his content. If you want to *browse* mainstream sites on the tor browser you can use privacy respecting frontends, check libredirect for a couple examples, logging into these sites however is another story entirely. Facebook and other social media companies sell user data to turn a profit, since tor users are anonymized facebook blocks tor exit nodes because those users simply don't generate any revenue. You can bypass these blocks by logging in but by doing so you have effectively deanonymized yourself and entirely contradicted the point of using tor in the first place, that being to blend in with the herd. You may even stand out more as an identified individual that uses tor exit nodes, I'm sure the list of that userbase is quite small. I believe you would do well to study threat modelling, I am sure techlore has a video or two on the subject.

>>83458 >facebook blocks tor exit nodes facebook runs a hidden service >by doing so you have effectively deanonymized yourself and entirely contradicted the point of using tor in the first place there are some use cases where it's valid. you may not care about facebook knowing who you are, but still don't want your isp to know when/if you use facebook. you may not want facebook to geolocate you with your ip every time you visit. you may be in a country which has derezzed facebook. you may want to contribute traffic to the Tor network to help improve the anonymity of others. you may want to use Tor for as much as possible so that you avoid the problems that come with using Tor only for sensitive activity. >I'm sure the list of that userbase is quite small. over a million users per month (according to facebook) facebook users should all quit facebook, but some people want to use it anyway, and for them, there's really no reason to not use it over Tor. It doesn't add any risk, has some privacy benefits, and helps anonymize other users' traffic.

>>83461 >inb4 "facebook glitterboy in MY lainchan? For clarity: I do not use facebook and do not recommend anyone use it. The point is if you're somehow happy (or forced) to use Facebook, using their hidden service has some benefits.

>>83458 Facebook's onion still works unlike Twitter's. I would link them as proof, but idk if anyone on here actually cares about either. >>83461 >>83462 Agreed! I never had any other social media (I don't consider LinkedIn social media despite it wanting to be the next Facebook) and deleted my Facebook 5 years ago. Back when I did have it, I always used it on Tor with no problem. Except Facebook thinking my login was a security incident, but not my problem anymore. I am even going to delete my Linkedin in the foreseeable future at some point as well.

>>83414 By "Tor friendly" you mean anonymous. in that case - outside of certain hidden services - basically nothing. Privacy is for the most part dead on the public internet. Tor can still be viable - depending on your threat model. Say for example, you want to communicate on a social media platform to speak out against your ruling class. The social media platform itself will absolutely deanonymize you - but that doesn't mean EVERYONE else can.

>>83431 Don't use torsocks use instead proxychains4. The above example would turn into: proxychains4 -q yt-dlp https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7icbt7ykaMc Before putting the -q run proxychains4 yt-dlp [...]. The output will be verbose but you can make sure if it's using tor.

>>83416 I always use the Safest setting as well. However, I noticed certain websites like on YouTube the scroll bar is hidden or won't load at all. I realized this is a result of the svg.disabled->true. However, switching just this one setting makes Tor default to Safer. Which makes me wonder if there really no other difference between Safest and Safer.

>This doesn't deserve its own thread, whatever it replaced surely had a more engaging discussion. What exactly do you think deserves its own thread then? This place is pretty dead, so there's not much engaging discussion on any thread, so I don't understand the complaint of discussion on a struggling platform.

>>84105 'What websites does techlore use on a day to day basis' is probably a question best asked on the techlore forum.

>>84106 It was more of a sarcastic question of why someone would recommend a browser that doesn't work with the website he is promoting the browser on. With a broader discussion topic of why so many websites disallow Tor and VPNs in the first place. And what websites a Tor user can even go on and use. The point of the post was to discover websites a Tor or VPN user can use and was not about any particular person. Although he was relevant to the discussion since he promotes Tor yet his own website doesn't work on Tor.

Tech Lore are stuck high up on the iceberg. Their recommendations are a step up from the defaults, but at the end of the day they're a privacy theater LARP. I'm not sure they could do real (criminal tier) privacy for themselves let alone teach others. Their business isn't scientific research, they react to news and follow trends. It'd be much more fun if they broke down the amount of soykaf that modern software leaks, including some of these privacy apps. For example Signal, they accept the story that the client source code is okay therefore it's safe and private. It's compromised by everyone using the same binary client, by being on smartphones, by the proprietary server hosted at Amazon and Google. They see who you're talking to (IP and correlation with OS logs and other app logs), how much and when. Potentially all the messages are leaked through push notifications. Any self-hosted clearnet chat or darknet P2P chat beats this snake-oil bullshit yet they don't do videos on those because it doesn't cater to the mid IQ audience. Main guy uses a stock Pixel because security benefits, doesn't consider there's nothing to secure if all his data is under the control of a data harvester confirmed illegal surveillance company. Why use a phone at all when he's supposed to be a security and privacy consultant, good luck to his clients lol. >>84106 https://www.techlore.tech/ is sort of readable on Tor Browser Safest setting today. The forum https://discuss.techlore.tech/ is also sort of readable, but posting isn't possible without JS. >>84107 Complex but minimalist sites with thriving communities that work well with Tor are darknet only (borderline) illegal sites because they're forced onto that path. There are a lot of working darknet chans, forums but they're deader than Lainchan. A lot of indie blogs work like the webring >>82769 or https://512kb.club sites.

>>84117 >Main guy uses a stock Pixel I was wondering the shift from never Google and tips on how to degoogle to “oh Google is completely fine, just use this encryption software….” Like what? I wonder if his channel got in trouble with YouTube for anti-Google stance so they forced him to change his tune or face a ban. I guess there’s not enough traffic on Rumble or Odysee to condensate for a lack of YouTube.

techlore is like a little jewish school girl that spouts this n that moral authority dis n dat. When honestly the only knowledge comes from his supporters/patrons/subreddit (cringe)