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My ISP has derezzed both Soulseek and BitTorrent. The latter block is bypassable via I2P, but I2P torrent trackers don't have that much music and most of their content is movies and shows. I'm looking for a more music-centric alternative. I've seen DC++ but it has a weird SSL error which prevents the whole thing from working (I am using EiskaltDC++). Telegram bots have been working alright, but it's not really peer-to-peer and a bunch of music is missing from there. Any suggestions?

>>83345 VPN One of the two things they're useful for

Does anyone even know how an isp can even block bittorrent? I suppose they could block all the trackers but couldnt OP still connect to torrents or discover peers through users who port forward? i dont know much about how the protocol works. There are a number of public socks5 proxies you could possiblly use for only resolving peers, or alternatively as another user suggested just use a vpn.

Rip from Deezer or Spotify, though I haven't specifically done that I've heard it works well and with Deezer can get FLAC. If you're not looking for any specific artist and just want new music there's a couple of interesting options. One pay to leech choice that I feel is well worth it is 0daymusic, a scene music FTP archive covering hundreds of terabytes of music, mostly electonica. But you probably want free which in that case... you can scrape Bandcamp, music blog sites, even some free music label sites. There's also KHInsider for video game OSTs, and many random direct downloads for various genres. I've seen huge single download collections for eurobeat, vaporwave, and Touhou fan music, and surely there's more out there.

And of course Archive.org also has a metric soykaf ton of good music.

>>83350 the protocol is really easy to fingerprint, and uses a lot of traffic. so even if you manage to hide the way it looks, trying to mask the way it acts is gonna be counter-effective and harm performance.

>>83352 true, though it's often in soykaf formats with corrupt metadata

>>83345 dude i had no idea ISPs could even see soulseek traffic guess i'll just die man

>>83432 Everyone can see https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com

You can always give your hard earned money to mullvad.

>>83432 soulseek has a central server so it's pretty easy to detect to be honest i wish an actual peer-to-peer non-torrent based music service would exist (that works) but there's none :/

>>83500 Was considering writing something like this but can't seem to find the time to do the research involved. Besides that the market is oversaturated with soulseek and classic rippers that I doubt the investment would be worth it. My plan at the time was to bundle a multi service ripper (spotify, apple music, deezer, etc) with a docker that would take the MD5 of the downloaded file along with its bitrate and distribute it to the network. Perhaps tags like song name, artist name, etc may also be included in the list. Since ripped files are reproducible a form of proof of work can be used to check the MD5 to verify the user isn't hosting an entirely different song. The end user would then have some modern 200mb soy electron app that will act as a wrapper to the network and mainstream apps. If a song is not in the network the users logged in account will download the song to cache and append it to our master MD5 list kinda like a blockchain. I wrote the ripper but I'm not a frontend dev so I need to find time to learn react or flutter before doing any further work on the project. Was planning in using qt but something mobile compatible might be better.

care to share the details lainon? (e.g, country, the ISP in question) need to know so I can estimate how long until this might be a thing where I am or what country/ISP to avoid, I think that there are public wifis that block torrent in particular the free wifi I used to frequent now shadowbans your wifi session for that day had I used a torrent app from phone (is like kicking dead whales down the beach since it was quite fast and I use it to download anime). the same public wifi also blocked sites that allowed me to download from legitimate music sources but this seems to me that it's more of an enterprise config or router-based thing to avoid illegal content or enforce fair use since it also blocks DNS over TLS somehow (kinda stupid since it's public wifi and plain DNS is not the best common practice!) for the mean time we can just so hope that these stuff (including torrent clients) would use stuff like ECH or encrypted client hello (yes even programs like torrent or slsk could implement them to evade DPI and nasty censorship but people aren't informed!) but apparently even qbittorrent was not enforcing sane SSL/TLS versions to the point it could be exploited (like SSL 3.0 or lower, but was recently addressed though you cannot enforce to TLS 1.3 for site resolutions so you cannot really hide from the DPI if 1.2 is the default for everything). other solutions I think: use system-wide or router-wide DNS over HTTPS, use firefox with ECH setting about:config (on phone you can use developer edition firefox to access config or use Mull) my personal figured-out solution is to set your torrent client to exclusively use ipv6 if you support it, apparently it is a mess to block them or deal with them and most the blocking/censorship tools out there are oldies-made and only work for ipv4 so most of sites that may be blocked by v4 is not on v6+ECH.

>>83506 >ech, encrypted client hello tell everyone to use clownflare w/o actually telling 'em to use clownflare

you could get a Seedbox and rsync from there into your home

>>83696 you can use nextdns or quad9 if you want

Have you tried simply changing the port that you are using? Has worked for me in the past.

>>83345 vpn vps tunnel try playing with ports, do a bit of portscan* and find a non-blocked remote port. what I do is pretend my traffic came from a well-known apple/steam/google UDP port which is not blocked or whitelisted. we will have to wait until tls1.3+ECS is implemented on even individual clientelle programs that way we can bypass first-level DPI header checks and pretend with "usual" unsuspecting ports. use something like ktorrent which allow for precise port changing for most key areas in various torrent ports, I find that sometimes a torrent client works or not

>>83696 just read the attached picture. the flood detection somehow doesn't want any of this maybe I mentioned cloudflare too much

there's DarkMX which uses Tor (and thus you can download music without ISP detecting it) but it's very slow for obvious reasons.

>>87714 Made by the same person who wrote Tixati, WinMX & fopnu. All four seem to be proprietary.

>>83469 >https://iknowwhatyoudownload.com its strange how wrong that site is, maybe 1/3 the items on the site is things i am seeding, and my ip have not changed in over a year. seems so odd that they cant even log a ip right, i have not downloaded a single item in this image.

>>87714 they've recently added I2P support lfggg

A perk of being from the third world is ISP/Government do not care at all what you do on the internet. They don't want loss of foreign reserve currency so the seas are free.

>>88291 > A perk of being from the third world is ISP/Government do not care at all what you do on the internet. With Eastern Europe being an exception.

>>88291 The middle east is VERY serious when it comes to online activities, iirc Iran blocked both Tor and VPNs

>>88291 I am from a country called "Nepal", it's honestly chill out here. ISP's dont care at all. When they try to block something, it's just a dns block and people use other dns servers.

>>88292 I live in Eastern Europe and we have been taught how to pirate everything in school.

>>88903 Lol same. Even in engineering university, we used pirated industrial software, sandboxed in virtualbox so it can't phone home. Prof. at the beginning of every lesson: ok ladies and gentlemen, now start with setting back the date to 2012 so the software thinks it's still activated.

>>88905 >setting back the date to 2012 kek, those were the good times. Out of curiosity what software did you use at school? I used Pro engineer, Maya, Solidworks Premium (many versions), MS Office (from office 2003 to the newer ones like 2010). I always had fond memories setting this up on our Windows XP machines in school lab, I guess I was tech support even in school..