Is framework laptop worth it?

Thinking about buying a framework laptop, but not really sure. What do you think?

>>70883 i have seen the ltt video on it and i also think its super interesting, but it feels like more of a cool proof of concept rather than a realistic choice idk why. maybe cause am use to le capitalismo

I have one and have no major complaints about it. It's really nice to not deal with all the anti-repair soykaf in other laptops these days. Hardware switches for mic and camera are really nice. Customer Support is good. The older power cables would fray after a little use, but I believe they've updated their supplier to prevent this. Battery lifetime is good if you're not doing anything computationally intense, though I think they plan to address this in the model they're releasing this year. Wish mine had more ports, 4 isn't enough especially when one is used for power, but wasn't an issue a cheap usb hub couldn't fix. If you get one, get the diy kit. Assembly takes only a few minutes so it's really not worth it to pay for the pre-built.

>>70892 Sounds quite interesting. What OS are you running?

>>70893 Not >>70892 but I have a framework running arch. No big real complains except only having a reflective screen when I purchased, need to get a matte screen protector at some point. They do sell matte screens now though, which is nice. Other than that, shipping cost to Europe kind of is like kicking dead whales down the beach right now especially if you're only trying to get a small replacement part. General reasoning for me is that even if the company goes under, I have a product which is still more repairable than 99% of other laptops from the schematics etc.

>>70883 its kinda gimmiky anti repair is kind of a meme most laptops do have swappable battery ram wifi and storage AND have respectable IO some of them even have more IO than framework while being cheaper Shop around a little more anon maybe there better deals if you don't care about GPUs then there tons of good options

>>70934 i just found out that they have swappable mobos that's actually super cool i thought that the only real feature their laptop had were just these cards or addons or whatever that you stick to the sides i still think its a highly gimmiky way of doing that though

>>70893 Manjaro. Everything worked right away. Didn't have to any driver hunting or anything like that. Framework has a goal of supporting Linux users so the hardware they come with is all Linux friendly. There are also a couple of people who have blogged about getting OpenBSD to work. If memory serves, they had to use a different wireless card and the fans spin more, but it's workable. There's also this guy who is running freebsd: https://xyinn.org/md/freebsd/framework_laptop

>>70883 why would you get a boring ultrabook when you can make a weird cyberdeck out of trash computers?

>>70883 I got one for school and have a dual boot setup on it with Windows 10 + Linux The ability to swap USB ports around comes in handy sometimes when hooking up devboards and stuff like that

It doesnt seem to support Qubes, so it sounds quite useless

>>71200 https://community.frame.work/t/guide-to-running-qubes-r4-1/4483

>>71200 "I didn't check to see if it could run one particular distro so it sounds quite useless" Jesus christ my guy, get real. Also wanna add that Linux Experiment did a video promoting NovaCustom. I know it was a video promotion type deal but they do seem to be worth at least taking a look at. https://configurelaptop.eu/

>>71244 I would agree with this OP. I have a framework with the P and E core Intel processor and it's pretty cool but battery life is probably the weakest part. I would get the older version on intel or look at NovaCustom, they have been in the game longer and have more I/O. Framework is definitely not a bad choice but they are specifically designed windows laptops that through community enthusiasm have gained a Linux audience that the company fosters. A lot of distros run pretty well OOTB and they list some compat issues for popular ones on their website. I will note I have never tested the fingerprint sensor. None of their laptops support (core | libre )boot which is a pretty big downside, imo. It also seems low on their todo list. >>71200 Can confirm this lainanon is wrong as I am currently running Qubes flawlessly. I will say use the latest kernel if you're interested. The HCL posts should help you.

>>71483 >>71182 >>70985 >>70915 Is the monitor resolution an issue on linux with the poor fractional scaling options most distros have? I'm sorely tempted to get it but not if I'm going to have to run in HiDPI 2x mode to make the screen usable.

Have used a framework for about a year now with Solus, only had trouble in the beginning because solus wasn't using the latest kernels yet but other than that nothing of note. Don't really use the port swap thing other than switching where the power port is when I'm sitting somewhere and charging to be more comfortable. As a laptop I have no complaints, might upgrade the motherboard later on and use the old board in a cyberdeck build if I feel like it

>>70892 Funny thing is if you watch that LTT video tour of the production floor they assemble the diy kits to check for fitment, then disassemble it prior to packaging.

>>71939 I run it with 1.5x scaling. 1x is too small in my opinion. I use sway built from master because it has better scaling support than the latest release, I also use some environment variables I set up a long time ago. A few programs are slightly blurry but most are correct or close, it's enough to get a good experience for productive work. This isn't a problem exclusive to this laptop, however, since almost any laptop made in the last few years is going to have a high DPI display that requires scaling. I actually really like the Framework's screen because of the tall aspect ratio; it works really well on a laptop.

>>74294 Thanks, yeah the aspect ratio is one of the things that really appeals to me about the machine, I don't mind 16:9 on a desktop monitor but on a 13-14" laptop screen it just feels cramped, especially when taking into account the practical necessity of fractional scaling at modern resolutions. 16:10 seems to be becoming more common but its not that much better and almost every laptop offering it is soldered soykaf. Shame no trackpoint though, and I'm not all that convinced of the utility of the modular I/O, well daughter boarded but fixed layout I/O would have been better imo, seeing at there's nothing really special available to fill out the slots.

>>74360 Yeah, the modular IO is of dubious value. It's not very useful for hotswapping like you might expect, because it takes a surprising amount of force to get them out (yes, I'm pushing the button properly). So it really just amounts to choosing a few ports.

>>70883 >framework laptop Seems pretty good, but after configuring, I find it to be at least as expensive as Tuxedo or System76. I would prefer the Linux manufacturers as they support the right to repair, and will be guaranteed compatible with Linux.

>>74419 >as they support the right to repair, and will be guaranteed compatible with Linux. This is also true of framework