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Unnamed · 2023-07-02 13:36
In order to move out and stop being a NEET, I need a source of income. However, I'm not sure what I can realistically learn in one year.
For some context, I've been rotting since I was 14, and I've recently turned 20. This affected my mental state very negatively, but now I really don't have much of a choice anyway, seeing that I'm forced to support myself financially (I have enough savings for one year).
I've been looking at jobs that don't require much effort and intelligence, and the most appealing one seems to be being a sysadmin. Is it a fair choice? Can I learn everything necessary in one year? Any recommendations as to how I can maximize the efficiency of my attempt (e.g. resources which are a good starting point)?
The Phantom Phreak · 2023-07-02 13:42
>>70830
Here are some recommendations: >>>/λ/36362
Study often but keep your studying sessions short (use some variation of the Pomodoro Technique).
>Can I learn everything necessary in one year?
It depends on what's your starting point. Learning it from zero is probably going to take 2-3 years.
Guthrie · 2023-07-02 13:55
>>70831
I see, thank you. Would it perhaps be wiser, then, to go the web dev route, and try to work my way towards being a full-stack dev? I'm not sure, especially since I live in the 2nd world (eastern EU). Either way, thanks for the advice thus far.
Hiro Protagonist · 2023-07-02 14:03
>>70830
if you've been rotting away since you were 14 I find it hard to believe you'll be able to learn everything you need to know to be a sysadmin in one year, plus the networking and soft skills. I'm sorry to be a downer. You need realistic planning.
My advice is work towards the sysadmin stuff, but plan to work a soykafty job in the meantime. The most comfy soykafty job I had was in a call center, but specifically graveyard shift and working from home. I barely did anything and it allowed me to work on the stuff I like which eventually landed me a job in IT. You need to be clever about working as little as possible without getting caught.
Once you're ready to start working IT jobs look for local school districts. They pay soykaf and they're always desperate but it will give you a ridiculous amount of experience even for jobs one year. That will catapult you to better stuff quickly.
Good luck.
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2023-07-02 14:09
>>70832
I think dev is a little harder. I would recommend going the IT route. Sysadmin, active directory, etc. from there you can start specializing in more interesting stuff.
Neo · 2023-07-02 19:15
I've got a more realistic plan for you since I promise you the job search alone will take you months. Relying on a finite set of savings is also an abysmal idea. Any deviation from your plan can lead you to get severely screwed over, especially if you reside in America.
Assuming you're paying for somewhere to live too, I would suggest you rent a room in a flat/house share. You then take up a job where you only work 2/3 days a week, but you work long hours during those days. This leaves you with 3/4 days where you can study for a job you'd like to have in a year.
Benefits? You don't risk becoming homeless if your savings run out unexpectedly. You also become severely less neurotic because your savings should hopefully be increasing as time goes on.
Finding temporary work like this comes with other benefits. Because the duration of your employment there will depend on how effectively and quickly you study the prerequisites for your sysadmin position, you will actually study. The activity demanded by jobs tends to bleed into all other aspects of your life, it's honestly a positive.
Lady Jessica · 2023-07-02 21:59
nigger, become a bee keeper
Specialized fields always pay well
Spike Spiegel · 2023-07-02 22:03
>>70841
>>70840
I just dont get how to actually start building a life. I am so confused. I need fuarrrking help. But everyone just expects me to do it all on my own because im an adult. I have never gotten any fuarrrking guidance in my entire life. WHAT DO I DO.
Unspecified · 2023-07-02 22:05
>>70842
Do you have a means of communication?
contact a place you are interested in working and ask "can i work with you"
If yes, ask them how
If no, thank them for their time and try somewhere else
I hope you know how to manage a budget.
Armitage · 2023-07-03 00:31
>>70834
>>70835
I'm not the OP, but would it be difficult to learn to be a sysadmin if one is already a 'linux nerd'? I have selfhosted stuff before and messed around with servers for fun for a bit. If it's not too hard then I might want to go the extra mile for a certification just so that's another line of work for me to apply to if needed.
Erik Johansson · 2023-07-03 04:41
>>70845
It really depends on where you want a job, maybe just apply for introductory IT staff positions?
I don't understand young people thinking they can go into specialized fields without starting somewhere. Do you know how to read prerequisites on a job application? I'm not trying to be mean, you genuinely need to be able to read if you are a fit for the position you are applying for. You can probably still apply if you meet 80% of the requirements, and they will train you what your job is anyway. Also websites like ziprecruiter and indeed are mostly scams. Go to company websites directly and call or email. most have hiring information or an HR department.
Acid Burn · 2023-07-03 04:46
i repaired lawnmowers ever since i graduated high school. pays good enough
>>70842
get a job. youre just being picky if you havent found one
Project 2501 · 2023-07-03 06:06
>>70845
well, hell. If you have a good idea of what lies ahead, you can try to apply to these positions. all you gotta do is prove and convince the employers you know what to do. Little harder without certs of any kind to back that up, i guess. won't be priority #1, but no harm in trying.
as for >>70842 , i can't cover everything in a lainchan post, but >>70843 is pretty much right. look online or, even better, in your local area for work. You can try to strike for gold with what you really want to do, otherwise, try small. Labor work will accept anyone. On the side, learn and toy with subjects you really want to build your career on. And get an idea of how to make a budget. (It basically consist of the cost of your expected needs, spare money for activities if needed, spare money to save for later.)
It may be tough. If you're lucky enough, it'll be relatively easy. your millage may vary. Hope the best for you.
Yamaoto Toshi · 2023-07-03 08:04
>jobs that don't require much effort and intelligence
>sysadmin
haha just do it and realize you are a fool.
Nguoi La · 2023-07-03 14:10
OP here;
>>70840
I don't need to pay rent, my only expenses are taxes, utilities, and food. If I sell some of my belongings (PC, and similar), I can easily survive even 3 years like this. I would just like to be on my feet as soon as possible. Because of this, I don't really need some temporary job, I just need guidance from someone with more experience, as time is the only thing which I do have.
>>70842
I feel the same as you. My parents never taught me anything. I have the social skills of a 12-year-old, I can't cook, I can't buy my own groceries, never paid bills, never did taxes, and so on..
>>70843
As I said, I have saved enough money that I do not need a temporary job, I just need advice for something more long-term.
>>70845
This was my reasoning, I imagine that there are various different levels of difficulty depending on the place you're applying for. I would obviously be aiming for the easiest ones, the entry-level, just anything which provides me with an income (doesn't even need to be high).
Frank Garza · 2023-07-03 21:29
>>70866
As I said, you are going to need to inquire about positions if you want to start something that will turn into something long term. That also means asking about what the job you will be doing entails. You can probably get a job at a nearby cell phone repair shop with little to no experience.
Haruyoshi · 2023-07-03 21:44
>>70843
I'm not really interested in working anywhere.
Nobody wants to talk to anyone nowadays. Im not sure where you are from but that is not how it works here.
>>70851
I can't. Nobody wants me
>>70853
Labor don't want me I am too weak. Nobody takes me seriously. They don't like the way I look. They don't like the way I act.
I don't even know why I should want a career. I don't know how to build one. I don't know what a career even is. I don't know what subjects are supposed to interest me.
>>70866
I feel so miserable and hopeless. I am going to be a dependent for the rest of my life.
I feel like I have to move mountains and the reward for that is just more misery
Void · 2023-07-04 06:33
>>70868
>I don't even know why I should want a career. I don't know how to build one. I don't know what a career even is.
Eh. don't care too much about it. it's just a fancy way of saying "making a living out of something" and "building a career" is just getting work experience in general.
>I don't know what subjects are supposed to interest me.
That's the part that is like kicking dead whales down the beach. You gotta look at a bunch of different kinds of work, seeing what MIGHT interest you, try it, and see if you like it or not. Or you look at what kinds of job are lacking in people and try to get into it.
Once you know what you like, you just go for it. (There's no shame if you have doubts later and to try again to look for something you like again.)
The worst part is that this is probably as simple as I can explain it, yet sounds so vague. I barely know you lainon, so I can only give you this generic ass answer. It's probably sounds overwhelming, but trust me when I say it's simple. The only problem is that it is time consuming. that's why it feels like moving mountains.
If you want something more personal, My thought process when choosing my interest was basically "Well, I like working with computers, so i'll try something related to computers" I bounced between a bunch of subjects related to computers. Game dev, IoT stuff, generic ass programming, web dev... i ended up in support. Found out i was more of a manual kind of guy and like working with hardware when working with IoT projects. (basically arduinos and raspberry pi and stuff.) but prefer the stress free and easy tasks in my current job atm. i like projects that i can slowly work on instead of rushing for deadlines. It took me 5~6 years to get to this point since i asked myself wtf i was going to do with my life. 1~2 years of pondering (i had so choices and ideas... i was personally paralyzed, like you are. Was about to end High school.), 1 of trying it out, 3 of studying/working in it. after that, i got my job i have rn and that's where i am right now. (Take my experience with a grain of salt. Some luck was involved, and it took longer than it should have because fuarrrked up at some places. your millage will vary alot.)
I hope it somewhat helps you find comfort. the reward is not all depressing. Once you know what you want to do, the way ahead won't be so gloomy like it is right now.
Emmanuel · 2023-07-04 12:36
>>70866
>I don't need to pay rent
????
Liet Kynes · 2023-07-04 13:44
>>70875
I just do not like anything though. I'm not even starting from the same position you did.
The Plague · 2023-07-04 13:47
>>70866
> I can't cook
It's easy to learn to cook basic dishes and you will save some money that way (plus it's healthier). Find a library near you and borrow a basic cookbook (ask for help if you can't find one!). They literally have step-by-step recipes. Another good resource is https://based.cooking
If you want to start with something simple, make nordic/finnish style macaroni casserole (for example: https://scandicuisine.com/finnish-macaroni-casserole/). It's easy to make and cheap, and it's quite delicious with tomato ketchup. You learn cooking by doing mostly but be sure to watch some vids on youtube.
Like I said, you can save money by cooking your own meals and you will learn a useful skill!
>>70887
Probably he is either living with his parents/good friend (nothing wrong with that btw) or he is living in some kind of "institution".
Frank Garza · 2023-07-04 16:33
>>70845
you know enough to start job hunting at least. corporate jobs will want a little more on paper, or you'll have to really impress them in the interview (if you can get one), but there are plenty of "sysadmin" or adjacent jobs where they're a local/regional business just basically looking for a "computer guy" to maintain their website/email and fix tech soykaf around the office. law firms, schools, medical clinics, wholesale suppliers, regional logistics companies... smaller businesses that need some small amount of on-prem infrastructure for one reason or another.
Leto Atreides I · 2023-07-06 03:56
>>70830
What does it mean to have been rotting? /gen
Incognito · 2023-07-07 02:01
You might be able to find a job as a sysadmin provided you're not a huge cock loving glitterboy who is able to learn something they're told to learn, after you get the sysadmin jop, you can save money and use that money to buy cocaine and then sell it. Because in life there are 2 universal solutions to any kind of problem: Suicide or selling coke.
You can learn how to be a sysadmin in 2 weeks if you're committed enough.