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John Titor · 2023-04-01 11:01
what is the soyest tech moment you have witnessed? a bunch of six figure earning webdevs were extolling "edison bulbs" as some kind of tr000 light bulb. they are just LED bulbs with a different physical shape, theres not actually any such thing as edison bulb. they just upvote anything that has the word edison,carmack,musk in it because they cant actually into tech themselves. they are like cukolds but in enginering any "edison bulb" you can buy doesnt actually do anything different from the average garbage LED/CFL bulb, other than be transparent they all have poor spectral power distributions and cant even emulate 2000K like an "edison bulb" is supposed to do. you can literally buy any incandescent for $1 and be getting something 10000x better yet these tards were acting like these are superior, paying $100 for an LED bulb (because by the time you find one that doesnt have gimped SPD and flickering, you will be probably paying that much)
Ivan Petrov · 2023-04-01 11:21
The entire VR rollout. All of it is garbage. The niche headsets that are way too expensive because they're limited development prototypes are fine, but any company who ever advertised a VR headset is cringe-capitalist, and the people buying them are stupid. >Someone in the industry, "[headsets being free] is still too expensive as the current market stands." They're a novelty, and I'd love to CS bhop with one on, but as a control scheme they're hilariously useless; in the same basket of retards as picrel.
Mitnick · 2023-04-01 14:30
>>68387 multicolored RGB LEDs expensive peripherals tasteless stickers on laptop shakes meant to replace meals
Donna Hawthorne · 2023-04-01 15:54
>>68387 I agree with you in principle OP, that it's stupid to extol Edison bulbs above all other light bulbs, but you're wrong on a few accounts. The original light bulbs made by Edison are distinct from modern light bulbs. They used a bamboo filament in order to generate light. This design was quickly improved by others using carbon filament instead as bamboo filament burnt out fairly quickly. Also, there do exist incandescent Edison bulbs; I use some in my house as a light fixture came with some in it. Here's an Amazon listing for some as an example: https://www.amazon.com/Candelabra-Dimmable-Incandescent-110-130v-Decorative/dp/B085HNX7MD?hvadid=80264466333909&hvnetw=s&hvqmt=e&hvbmt=be&hvdev=c&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=&hvtargid=pla-4583863992859368&psc=1 What I don't understand is where the modern designs came from. They have a lot of differences from the original Edison bulbs, or at lest from what pictures I can find of the originals. Maybe the design was taken from an old bulb that wasn't an Edison but still existed near the time period. Finally, the modern Edison styled LED light bulb does have an advantage over most LED bulbs that mimic the design of an incandescent bulb. The incandescent mimics tend to have very poor heat dispersion, which can cause the electrical components to break. The Edison style doesn't have this issue since the diodes are separated from each other and the light bulb's driver. This better heat dispersion isn't unique to Edison styled LEDs, though. Pics related, first two are of actual Edison bulbs, the last is of a random modern Edison using filament.
Six · 2023-04-01 16:12
Audiophile everything. Keep telling me how warm those guitars sound from a vinyl with an all analog tube audio amplifier setup trough your expensive yet absolutely hideous speakers. Those guitars were recorded with a digital modeller that's cheaper than your turntable.
Cutter · 2023-04-01 16:16
>>68396 Eh, some of them were not. A classic example is DSOTM, which was (at the time, before I was born) made with totally analog amplifiers, some of the best out there. I agree that some modern music and a lot of 80s synths stuff was done with soykafty hardware and modelling, but if you look here and there, you can find truly outstanding recordings that sound great even on soykafty gear. Check out mapleshade studios for example.
John Titor · 2023-04-01 16:39
>>68394 >you can buy something that is not "edison bulb" but looks vaguely like it in way that doesnt matter and edison bulbs have not been made for 100 years (also they were shortly replaced by something else, even 140 years ago) in other words, they dont fuarrrking exist >Finally, the modern Edison styled LED light bulb does have an advantage over most LED bulbs that mimic the design of an incandescent bulb. The incandescent mimics tend to have very poor heat dispersion, which can cause the electrical components to break. The Edison style doesn't have this issue since the diodes are separated from each other and the light bulb's driver. This better heat dispersion isn't unique to Edison styled LEDs, though. but who cares since almost all LEDs are fuarrrking soykaf? the last thing on the list is whether it is edison, which is actually just a negative because its a fuarrrking useless retard design for the same type of glitterboys who make soykafty """retro""" games that dont even attempt to learn what retro meant. your soykaf about overheating is just autism. LEDs last fuarrrking long enough. who the fuarrrk simps over 0.0003 cents
Ein · 2023-04-03 19:10
>>68389 It can be nice to not have to move the whole pointing device. I will say that I do not like the thumb balls. Not a comfortable place to put the ball.
Roger Pollack · 2023-04-03 19:53
>>68389 There's nothing wrong with track ball
Crazy Jake · 2023-04-03 20:32
>soyest Lain doesn't speak this way. As for Edison bulbs it's just a name for an aesthetic which is the whole point. No one thinks it's some special light beyond appearances. You must have zero social skills to not know this.
Koichiro · 2023-04-03 20:57
>$100 LED bulb Lain, you can find good low-temp LED bulbs that won't flicker when plugged in to a dimmer switch for like $15, and non-dimmable ones are even cheaper. Its not 2007 any more. Your LED hatred is an example of a soy tech moment. Other examples: >any time a tech youtuber does a "Linux challenge" and spends the whole video complaining that its not identical to windows >the entire enthusiast PC gamer world in general although I will admit that their PCs are often aesthetic af >Big Data aka "I threw together a bunch of tools I don't understand and wrote a paper about it" >people who think blockchains are useful for anything besides buying drugs >any "minimalist" project that just increases waste by adding pointless restrictions, like UXN
Jane Doe · 2023-04-03 22:37
>>68460 >the entire enthusiast PC gamer world Does this actually even exist anymore? I play just as many PC games as ever but I can't honestly say I've encountered a hardware/graphics whore in a long time now. Or am I just out-of-touch?
Mitnick · 2023-04-03 22:56
>>68458 >Lain doesn't speak this way. >>68460 LEDs flicker without even being plugged into a dimmer, baka.
Frank Garza · 2023-04-03 23:01
>Lain, you can find good low-temp LED bulbs their SPD is crap. colors will not look right. it's the same effect as CFL but just less bad. this is just reminding me of how LED is truly the most soycrap. you get autists sperging out about how "incandescent bad because inefficient because it radiates tons of non visible spectrum", meanwhile LEDs fail even worse: they emit tons of spectrum here and there, and have gaps here and there, and as you turn it up it just blinds you (hence most likely the reason they are PWM-dimmed and you can't turn that off) and still has soykaf colors. the literal only argument ever for LED is that you save a few dollars per year, and the non-argument of saving the environment by ruining the commoner's life.
Neo · 2023-04-03 23:06
>2007 CFL was barely mainstream, and nobody used LED. you are soy.
Elliot Alderson · 2023-04-03 23:18
>>68387 The absolute soyest consumer behavior is when they use whistleblowing as a justification for not having mandatory NSA spying on you constantly, instead of just "I don't want to be spied on". Kind of like soynigger >>68460 who thinks blockchains are unnecessary and we should use (((Musk's))) ((($Paypal))) instead attached to a (((credit card))).
Netrunner · 2023-04-03 23:26
Nah, the biggest soy moment is when some stupid yuppie installs a video game and sees a player with "nig" in the name and uninstalls it. In general choosing which art to consume based on morals is some next level petty soy shyte you can't even make up.
Unsigned · 2023-04-03 23:27
>>68387 your post is incomprehensible what is a tr000? as for the edison bulbs there's actually a good one, Iirc it was in some fire station and is still running to this day. bulbs became soykaf when they started to conspire and phoebus cartel soykaf moment happened. while in best intention at first (to prevent luddites raging against the machine) it became tiring and soykaf broke constantly meanwhile the ones with perfect filament still runs to this day. a bunch of soykaf sipping r-dditors wanting this tech isn't the worst scenario. rather the dangers is in the recreation of phoebus cartel which I think is in the form of "SSD" since that falls in the same pattern where soykaf deliberately breaks faster and they just don't produce SLC for us consumers anymore (they do for enterprise but it requires cooling near 0C which is not ideal for a typical consumer setup). I noticed it's the newest soykaf tech moment. >emulate temperature that's the part where numbers don't really matter. in fact even your older CCFL/CFL/Incandescent actually have unmatched CRI compared to modern WLED lamps though I don't know why they're not just implementing RGBLED lamps today - only that one wacom tablet and some obscure manufacturer does RGBLED for accurate and higher CRI and it's not like OLED has accurate colors either since each OLED colors degrade at a different rate, rather their intensity curves make it so greyscales at different brightness intensity make it inaccurate at any dimming level! >they are just LED bulbs with a different physical shape, Not true. Older forms of lighting are actually aesthetic since they make colors of what it hits pop out better and they're still used for getting more info on raw (no AI, no edit/filter) photography, art museums, and most high end establishments. LED never looks really right for me. >>68393 Hope you don't mean (White)RGB LED
Hong, Guil Dong · 2023-04-03 23:47
>>68396 I feel this lainon.. Most indie musicians/singers out there even sound so much BETTER than the "mastered studio edition" versions out there since the filterless aspect of indie recordings actually sound SO GOOD even if it sounds muffled or amateur in any speakers they tend to sound normal after a few times hearing it. I think most music today is just severely edited and it's harder to find a better "faithful to reality" copy and these severely edited audio register to my ears as very harsh, cold, distorted, and thin. I think it has to do with the editing, too much editing makes it sound fake, it's like I'm looking at profile pictures with AI overlaying makeup and autophotoshop and while it appeals at glance it is very artificial to me. Most audio out there sounds artificially bloated - even the fact that the channel crosstalk causes the left to leak to the right and vice versa thus the center channel is increased by the signal leaks and come out in form of center channel distortion, while the side channel may seem "better" as it sounds as if a crossover it is destroyed by the fact most studios tend to jank up that vocal compression and making it sound crushed yet loud which is uncannily artificial. I just want something that sounds normal. It's not even realistic to listen to audio at that leven of voice compression (though may not be enough for people who wanna pump up deciBells with speakers) I don't even go past 50 on my volume controls since it will fuarrrking give me tinnitus (unrealistically loud) and yet they still add more compression, I go to youtube and watch this streamer they use OBS with jacked up compression. If that's not soyslop moment then I don't know what is. It's not like in the 90s when small and big speakers couldn't play back stuff since soykaf was expensive back then, it's pretty much more affordable now and even DACs are better then why the heck are they jacking it up still.. I want the soykafty recording, no editing. I want to hear the tiny imperfections, the tiny tonal mistakes, all of it but they don't want that and worse is they jack up the upper frequencies too so there's this sibilant SSSSSs everywhere and head-drilling vocals - no amount of "gear" will ever fix, that's like wanting to see someone's real face after it has been edited by countless "smart tools". In simple terms it's like me wanting to watch sex as documentary and not as AAA porn studio but the problem is the music industry prefers to be the latter, it's so stupid.
Bobby Newmark · 2023-04-03 23:50
>>68473 -->we are talking about LED lights<--- that's what the soy people use. the "edison bulbs" they buy are LED. they have all the crap characteristics of LED because they are LED. that's why they people are soy, for buying such stupid shyt and thinking they are getting some "proper true light bulb". >tr000 it means "the real deal" > I don't know why they're not just implementing RGBLED lamps today not an expert on LEDs (but i'm sure that's one way to implement it), but the reason is because LEDs are heralded as some cheap efficient shyt with zero regard to quality, and ameritrash are too stupid to notice vastly worse lighting since they are all vitamin deficient, drunk, druggies, obese, etc and have far worse problems that are orders of magnitude worse, and RGB LEDs cost more
Haruyoshi · 2023-04-04 00:00
>>68478 >the "edison bulbs" they buy are LED. Oh I get it now. This was like a thing since 2018 in ikea and similar trendy interior design shops. Why is it getting traction again.. Those are some kind of COB LED but are made to look like those old lamps and are quite cheap in bulk. I guess someone is finessing soyddit and is doing a great job at it lol. Not gonna lie but I see the same with mechanical keycap meme. Couldn't believe one useless "resin" keycap actually costs as much the same effort to make a 1TB HDD and the keycap is even violating the design copyright lol. The only valuable use case for these screw base bulbs is legacy refrigerators and ovens.
Undisclosed · 2023-04-04 00:12
>>68466 idk somebody must be buying all those consumer-grade water cooling kits. >>68467 >LEDs flicker without even being plugged into a dimmer, baka. Not when they have a proper driving circuit. My cheapo room lights don't.
samefag · 2023-04-04 00:17
>>68480 Reading some more of the "replies" I'm beginning to think OP just has garbage lighting in his room and wanted to blogpost about how it's the downfall of society or something.
Mitnick · 2023-04-04 06:35
>>68398 >>68476 No you don't understand. On a modern, well mixed song, it's virtually imposible to tell how the guitar was recorded. We're way past that point. It could be a tube amplifier through a microphone, it could be an amplifer through a speaker simulator, it could be a hardware modeller or it could be a software plugin. In a song you won't be able to tell, the tech is just that good. That old school analog sound? There are plugins for that as well. The point is that the golden eared freaks are just delusional and ignore how the sausage is made these days.
Anonymous · 2023-04-04 22:29
>>68480 what fkin driving curcuit? the consumer has no control over this other than choosing higher quality bulbs with this attribute they have not been told exists retard engineers prob think hurr durr 60Hz+ is not perceptible yet it is. the flicker fusion threshold does not matter and is not the problem its funny how idiots all agree with each other without understanding anything or having a concrete argument other than just "wahhh someone said thing i use = bad"
Lain Iwakura · 2023-04-05 03:42
>>68498 >what fkin driving curcuit? The circuit that's in the bulbs. Here's some examples explained in detail: https://www.powerelectronictips.com/teardown-60-w-equivalent-led-bulbs/ At the very least, LEDs need a resistor in series so that the diodes don't pop immediately. Most of them have full AC/DC converters in them exactly to prevent the flickering you hate so much, because its pretty chepa to add it in. >its funny how idiots all agree with each other without understanding anything or having a concrete argument other than just "wahhh someone said thing i use = bad" I agree, its pretty tiresome.
Unsigned · 2023-04-05 06:47
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Turner · 2023-04-05 19:02
>>68387 1. Ameriguns are taught Edison invented electricity, telephone and light bulbs, it's easy to market any light bulb that remotely resembles something old as "Edison" to them. 2. LED "filament" style bulbs look like old carbon filament bulbs to untrained eye of your average Jose Washington-Jones. 3. The fashion comes from hipster cafes which set them as "mood" lighting, they are not used as primary source of luminance in the room. In effect they are no different from "RGB" lights of the likes Philips Hue and remote-controlled strips that make your room look like an Eastern European camwhore lives there. 4. Around time when regular tungsten incandescent bulbs were derezzed for production around the world, some manufacturers started making these low-power retro-looking long tungsten filaments that really used to mimic carbon filament bulbs, and were used in early hipster bars. 5. It's obviously cheaper for restaurants to run 100 2W LED "Edison" bulbs than 100 20W incandescents, so the choice what kind of bulb to use was obvious. 6. Actually good LEDs with high color rendering index and color quality scale come in form SMDs and SMD strips which have to be attached to large heat sinks to perform correctly and long enough to beat the 5000 hours mark, and are manufactured by only 2 Korean companies. This is why we don't see real competition or innovation here, just like "electronic" "paper" market which is 90% supermarket price tags, 10% overpriced Amazon tablets for dime smut. Regards, IRC halogen bulbs enjoyer.
Special Agent Bob · 2023-04-06 01:37
>>68505 The actual LED doesn't heat up very much. The problem is the circuitry used to drive them gets hot, and a lot of the cheapo LED bulbs don't include half-decent heat management because it isn't aestheticc.
Cowboy · 2023-04-07 16:23
>>68510 All circuitry there is a diode bridge to rectify AC into pseudo-DC, a couple of capacitors and a couple of mosfets for current regulation in "high-end" models. Unlike CFLs there is no need to raise voltage, there is no transformer inside, and power consumption is much lower. In all CFLs I encountered, some component on driver circuit dies or some trace burns up, in LED bulbs, it's always one of SMD LEDs on a thin heatsink-PCB under dome of translucent white plastic. Manufacturers advise against putting these bulbs in enclosed fixtures, and if you do it's probably better to cut the dome off: better heat dissipation from LEDs and more light. "Edison"-style LED suspended in phosphorus "filament" bulbs can have all circuitry stuffed inside the screw plug which acts as a good enough heatsink with the receptacle socket, originally designed to withstand heat of incandescent bulbs. Philips manufactures high-efficiency under 1-3W filament style LED bulbs for Dubai government [0] at 200 lm/W for 220V mains. But they have garbage color rendering around 90%. SunLike™ diodes with 99% reported CRI have efficiency around 75 lm/W - 2,5 times more heat per light output, and this is where problems of heat dissipation begin. It's impossible to stuff quality SMD diodes in conventional screw-base bulb because they need large heat sinks, you either make bulb in larger form factor which defeats the purpose as people buy buy them as replacement for same sized and light output incandescents, or you skimp on heatsink making LEDs cook slowly shorting their lifetime. E.g. it's impossible to make quality E14 candles out of SMD LEDs, there is not enough volume inside, on top of SMDs having less than 180° angle while filament bulb (incandescent or LED) has all 270°. So far only LED strips laid inside ribbed aluminium channels and dedicated 12/24VDC power supplies are the only option today. It also makes possible to have lights powered by off-grid battery without unneeded losses associated with AC inverters. [0] https://www.mea.lighting.philips.com/consumer/dubai-lamp
Wintermute · 2023-04-07 21:51
>>68500 you still are arguing with a strawman. consumer LED bulbs almost all have flicker, regardless of the circuitry.
Chan Siu Ming · 2023-04-08 09:08
>>68546 Not true with high quality ones. They have enough storage capacitor where there is no measurable flicker (Experiment setup: GE "sunfilled" led bulb with fast vishay photodiode and oscope)
Nameless · 2023-04-08 09:56
>what is the soyest tech moment you have witnessed? when a porn consuming nerd sees an actual teenager in an image instead of a 30 year old "18 year old" and freaks out and calls the cops
Cowboy · 2023-04-08 11:52
>>68502 To reiterate, what in the sam hell is that?
Armitage · 2023-04-08 15:39
>>68539 interesting, I wasn't aware that the color affected efficiency so much. >>68546 I think you just don't know what you're talking about.
Arisu Mizuki · 2023-04-08 22:11
>>68550 >Not true with high quality ones. great, so you conceded with what i already restated 15 times and have said from the very start. >>68555 let me spell it out for you so you have to actually argue about tangible concepts instead of continuing to beat around the bush while being an obvious huge autistic fagget who knows nothing about any fuarrrking thing like the average glitterboy on this pathetic autist hangout: almost all LEDs flicker. at around 100-200Hz which still all people can see, just not from looking dead on.
Undisclosed · 2023-04-09 00:28
>>68560 >almost all LEDs flicker. at around 100-200Hz which still all people can see, just not from looking dead on. Yes, this is exactly what I think you're wrong about. Is it out of your system now? Do you still think I'm "beating around the bush" or "arguing with a strawman"?
Donna Hawthorne · 2023-04-09 23:41
>>68561 you fuarrrking idiot nigger. they all flicker. some probably are as bad as 60hz or even lower. glad we finally see the retardation. now brace for 10 more posts of you figuring out that youre wrong followed by "w-well high quality ones dont have this issue"
Vasya Pupkin · 2023-04-10 03:48
>>68578 Make your case then. I'm eager to hear it.
Anonymous · 2023-04-11 23:15
>>68581 1. 99% of consumer LEDs flicker 2. some so slow you can see it just from looking directly at it 3. others at higher rates but still slow enough to see without looking for it at the corner of your eyes or when it moves (on a car) or when you wave your kitchen knife (for a ceiling light bulb) what the actual fuarrrk are you even objecting to still in this thread you must be actually autistic and ignorant at the same time.
Yu-ichi · 2023-04-12 01:56
>>68612 >1. 99% of consumer LEDs flicker At what rate and at what amplitude? I'll grant that in most bulbs you might be able to measure a small variance of intensity over a 120Hz cycle (assuming 60Hz input power), but that doesn't mean it's actually enough to be visible. Incandescent bulbs "flicker" at the same rate, but whether it actually matters is a different matter. http://www.ledbenchmark.com/ has flicker measurements. If you sort by "flicker %" you will see that by page 15 out of 23 the flicker % and flicker index numbers (which have a rigorous definition) of the LED bulbs are actually lower than a standard incandescent bulb.
Mitnick · 2023-04-12 10:23
>>68615 can u shut the fuarrrk up already LEDs flicker my literal grandma knows this i know u really think ur smart for bringing up technical details, but its pointless because we already know that they flicker. since everyfuckingone can see it. arguing otherwise is like saying the sun doesn't exist yes there are rare cases of ppl so gimped that they cant notice LED flicker. sorry if ur eyes are too soykaf to see it nobody cares a fuarrrk about incandescent "flicker", you cant see it because it doesnt flicker, the power oscillates but not the light.
Jean Dupont · 2023-04-12 11:48
>>68618 Nah I'm pretty sure you're just wrong.
Elliot Alderson · 2023-04-13 20:38
>>68615 I click random bulb from front page: http://www.ledbenchmark.com/display.php?id=22&name=Westinghouse+03466+Nanolux+3 It shows "11%" flicker on generic 60W incandescent bulb while LED it compares to is only "1%". Yeah, right. And where are the R9, TM30 and CQS ratings? What a garbage website. How come Russians always do better than sharts? https://lamptest.ru/results/
Case · 2023-04-13 22:41
>>68645 >shows "11%" flicker on generic 60W incandescent bulb while LED it compares to is only "1%". >Yeah, right. The measurement is standard and defined here http://www.ledbenchmark.com/faq/LED-Flicker-Measurement.html Lamptest.Ru just gives a number called " flicker". I'm guessing its the same thing as "flicker %" but normalized to 0-100? And appears to give a value of zero for some LED, which is obviously bunk. Also I don't read Russian.
Cowboy · 2023-04-15 10:42
>>68615 okay, i wasted an hour or two reading all his articles and getting up to speed with the terminology first of all, all websh1t is written by dildo fuccing morons who think things like that 85Hz+ has no flicker even though you see much higher speeds on the corners of your eyes and other effects. he even brings up the strobing effect in his FAQ then proceeds to ignore the existence of it everywhere else on the website >The study undertaken by ASSIST determined an equation for the maximum percent flicker value for a given frequency that would produce stroboscopic effects no greater than that from a 60 W incandescent lamp. Based on this equation, the maximum percent flicker for a lamp operating on 50 Hz AC with 100 Hz flicker is 10%, and for 60 Hz AC power with 120 Hz flicker, maximum percent flicker is 14%2. "percent flicker" (this terminology makes no sense so im gonna quote it every time) seems to be bigger for oscillation between two low luminance values than two high luminance values with the same differences (e.g 10 and 50 vs 200 and 250) which is correct as the eye is more sensitive to changes in darker light so at least the metric isnt completely bogus okay, so by his own definition which is probably way too lenient, we need 14 "percent flicker" or higher (edit: i mixed the numbers around: it should have been 10 or higher as all his bulbs are 100Hz, so im even more right) switching to list mode to get 4 pages with up to 100 entries per page, then sorting by "percent flicker" we see that roughly half of the LEDs tested are above 14 "percent flicker" (first 1 and a half pages are above 14 "percent flicker", and page 4 only has 30/100 entries). i looked at the graph of every single one above 14 "percent flicker", and they are all 100Hz except a few (3 or so are in KHz, which is a proper solution, and 1 is far below 100Hz). so there we go, >>68578 was right im not even into electronics and im still right and you were never right about anything in your life. get fucced. >(which have a rigorous definition) AAAAAAHAHAHAHA he thought this made him sound big and youre wrong and youre wrong and youre wrong and youre wrong >>68621 >>68555 >>68481 >>68500 all you pretentious fagg0ts who think being obese makes you smart and cant go 5 seconds without drugs were never right about ANYTHING. maybe all the mayo, drugs, febreeze, mcdonalds is why you fuccjobs not only argue about sh1t they dont understand but also claim the other party doesnt understand it to further bury your pathetic out of touch idea that LEDs dont flicker, i will list things that ive seen flickering (many of which my grandma saw too): LEDs in every house i visited at night this year around 10, LED on my shaver, LED on a $100 gaymer keyboard, every LED bulb i bought and returned, LEDs on monitor buttons, at least 50% of LEDs on head/tail lights, LEDs on some computer cases, LEDs on fridge, LEDs on those gaybo smart thermostats, as well as their backlights. LEDs on every monitor backlight until 2015 or so (they disable PWM if you leave them on full brightness, which droolers like you would do), LEDs on vacuum cleaners, LEDs on stoves. >>68645 youre a moron too. LEDs can be trivially made to not flicker. its just that they dont, due to being designed and consumed by morons getting 10 "percent flicker" means like transitioning between 10 and 12.25 nits or 100 and 122.5 nits (i didnt look up what unit its actually defined by, probably close enough). LEDs that straight up transition between 0 and 500 nits will have massive "percent flicker" values so 10 "percent flicker" may be imperceptible. of course its probably not a great metric so its accuracy varies depending on a low of 10 nits with 10 "percent flicker" and a low of 100 nits with 10 percent flicker" but none of this matters since you can just have no flicker. there's zero application for flicker anywhere except eletronics niggers who think PWM is some advanced technique, like programmers who think so about the singleton pattern.(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST, Always argue in good faith and avoid using personal attacks.)
Arisu Mizuki · 2023-04-15 10:43
>>68672 >and youre wrong and youre wrong and youre wrong and youre wrong >>68621 >>68555 >>68481 >>68500 get quoted >>68555 >>68500
Mitnick · 2023-04-15 14:53
>>68672 >so there we go, >>68578 was right they claimed that >99% of consumer LED's flicker >almost all LEDs flicker. >consumer LED bulbs almost all have flicker, regardless of the circuitry. >$100 for an LED bulb (because by the time you find one that doesnt have gimped SPD and flickering, you will be probably paying that much) As you have obviously found out, all of these are flatly wrong. (the last one might be true when it comes to SPD, I don't really care about color rendering so I haven't looked into it) Meanwhile, here is what I claimed: >I'll grant that in most bulbs you might be able to measure a small variance of intensity over a 120Hz cycle (assuming 60Hz input power), but that doesn't mean it's actually enough to be visible I never once claimed that _all_ LED bulbs are free of flicker, just that flicker-free LED bulbs are easy to find and not expensive. Based on the evidence you've found, I hope you would agree that this is in fact true. You can go ahead and declare victory and call me names if you want, but in my mind the evidence is still very clear. >LEDs in my keyboard >LEDs on some computer cases those are powered by DC from your computer's power supply. They flicker exactly as much as the power being supplied to your motherboard. >LEDs on head/tail lights I doubt any of the assholes buying ultra-bright LED headlights that blind other drivers care about a little flickering. >LEDs on those gaybo smart thermostats, as well as their backlights. Weird, I would assume those are either battery powered or use a standard switching power supply plugged into the wall which should have a huge capacitor inside. The other stuff, I guess you've just been around a lot of soykafty bulbs. I'm surprised a fridge would have an LED in it at all, I've never seen that. I kind of want to get an oscilloscope and measure all the power supplies in my room now. >PWM doesn't solve the problem of flickering, although it means you can get away with a smaller capacitor.
Nell · 2023-04-16 11:35
>>68677 look how its 42 posts in and you are still arguing with one tiny point you didnt like in the thread which you thought you were right about but are completely wrong about "because ackthyually this subpoint of the one point i didnt like is wrong cus dis n dat" 50% of LEDs being so sh1t that some web autist concedes they are sh1t is still a pathetic state, and you taking 50% as the number based on this one piece of data is flatout retarded and unambiguously autistic. i will pretend that the magic number is 50% just so you shut the fucc up. 50% is still terrible, LED is still garbage. >i dont care about CRI because youre a dumbass fuccface, i bet u like CFL and fluorescent tube complete eye cancer. the reason random people walk into a room and say "the light is fucced" but cant explain it is because of the terrible SPD they output your retarded idea of the mains frequency being correlated to flickering is also fuarrrktarded electronics nigger autism tho it may be correct for bulbs market segment its probably wrong for everything else. pwm is used in battery devices to save batteries and lower the LED which is way too bright by default, but its a misconception technique for retards with their head in the sand like you who do not fully understand ANYTHING they get into just because you are special doesnt mean youre magically right about anything LED is soy garbage and you are SOY being autistic doesnt make you not SOY every random loser on forums for the last 20 years is exactly like you, a complete retarded dipsh1t who has more experience than anyone on a topic but is still wrong
Spike Spiegel · 2023-04-18 03:30
>>68553 A $15,000 light show sold by a celebrity chef that he says cures Covid.
Apoc · 2023-04-18 11:49
>>68745 Could be inspired by real research, my memory is busted but there were publications how certain wavelengths of light help boost immune system. I think it was in infrared range but its been pre-covid when i read about it and i could be wrong. The effect was in range of "look its not 0" not panacea tier so not important enough to care.
Tank · 2023-04-19 14:25
>>68745 webdevs are the soyest people in tech they actually think lazy loading is an important innovation and wasn't thought of in 1950 as well as independently invented 1e9000 times when you explain that it's a bad user experience they will just be like nah bruh google uses lazy loading they know what they're doing when you explain that it creates a larger user fingerprint they're like nah man this doesn't matter gay soy niggers they should die we are soon going to have AI interpreting ad-hoc formats and no data will be interchanged in open formats ever again, except email which is so fugged and badly done it may as well be proprietary