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Mastodon has started to gain legitimate traction what does lainchan make of it? if you're not familiar with it mastodon is a twitter clone with several improvements, most notably decentralisation and federation, this allows three feeds, one for people you follow, one for people on your instance and one for the federated network, it seems to be more focused on socialisation compared to conventional sites like twitter/facebook that're primarily for the consumption of media(USER WAS WARNED FOR THIS POST, You should always elaborate on your opinions rather than just spilling the soykaf. Please provide your own opinion on Mastadon and federated microblogging, otherwise we should just make this thread about prehistoric elephants. Prehistoric elephants were cool, especially in the ice age.)

I heard good about Mastodon. I never got into it because of it's low userbase and honestly didn't need it. Mastodon > Twitter 100% ever since its creation though. A bunch of artist I follow have an account there for a long time. Recently they finally reached the 1 million user count on the platform. I'm honestly surprised it took that long...

It's a difficult piece of software to set up and run, all for what - just to have more social media? IRC, XMPP, personal websites, and email threads are better. I see no compelling reason to use Mastodon over any of that. https://マリウス.com/mailman3-on-openbsd-71/

>>65004 Very hard to find interesting instances so I gave up.

>>65004 >oh, that drama thing that chantards always talk about again its some garbage script kiddie tier protocol that will laughably fall over the moment anyone starts using it (like ipfs). calling it now.

how many social media sites people really fuarrrking need? we have too many as it is already

>>65014 just this one more itll address all the problems of the others!

I keep hearing that it's soykaf for some reason. Apparently admin censorship? I don't entirely understand. Can Mastodons owners control all the instances on it? I think people were recommending Diaspora and Pleroma.

>>65020 >Can Mastodons owners control all the instances on it no, but they can do aggressive censorship on their own instances. if u hate sensorship try freespeech extremist or something I think thats pleroma >Pleroma is on the same network as mastodon grossly speaking I dont remember much about diaspora I think its something else maybe a 4k.

Just gave it a try, so far so good. Even though I'm not really a social media person, anything that decentralizes the web and takes power away from big corporations is a step in the right direction, IMO. >>65007 Is this an important point? You can interact with people in the other instances anyway.

>>65025 >You can interact with people in the other instances anyway. Yeah, but generally you want to find an instance with people you'd get along with. You have to take into account the possibility that someone you want to interact with is on an instance that might be blocked on whatever you want to join. Plus I know some servers (like Pleroma) have a public timeline that lets you see what everyone on that instance is posting, so it's easier to be seen among the locals and make friends with them.

>>65027 True. Still, unless you're into Nazi furry porn, you can probably find an instance with like-minded people that's not derezzed on most other instances. Alternatively, you can always host your own instance. Then you have full control.

I used to like mastodon/pleroma. Used to waste lots of time on that network. There's some chill people interspersed amongst the lefties and righties. I ended up deleting my original account after a moment of profound lucidity. I rarely log in any more, I think I realized I just dislike twitter-style media. Some advice: 1) you will see retarded soykaf on the federated timeline. It is best not to interact, nothing good ever comes of it. At one point someone went on a 30-post tirade at me because I said that maybe richard stallman wasn't a dangerous pedophile. 2) use a small, chill server that federates with other servers you like and doesn't align itself politically. I recommend raru.re. Wizards.zone used to be the best server on the platform, RIP. There's always admin drama on the leftie side and the rightie side is just full of people who think shouting 'nigger' is funny and subversive. Tech wise, ActivityPub is a pile of hot garbage and the Mastodon project has consistently made it worse. But it's what people use, whaddaya gonna do.

I just want Peertube to succeed. Don't give a soykaf about all the other forms of time-wasting, narcissistic, addition-targeting "social media", but if nothing else in the Fediverse succeeds please at least let Peertube show people the way beyond Google's video hosting monopoly.

It really does seem like the feds erase is the best of the social medias right now. The catch is that I don’t particularly enjoy social media that much nor do I use it often.

>>65047 I meant to write “Fediverse”. Not sure why I wrote “feds erase”.

>>65040 has a really cute mascot as a plus, too :)

The whole concept of federation is very appealing, but I don't know why everyone just wants to make Twitter clones using it. It might be good for sharing art and stuff you've made, but it's dogshit for discussion. The only people with visibility are those with lots of followers and whoever gets re(tweet|blogg|toot|whatever)ed by them. Extreme, ridiculous ideas are what get all the internet points. So the moderate ideas all get buried now, whereas in the days of forums, they'd have been just as visible as all the crazy posts and would keep them in check. Can't a forum server be made that uses ActivityPub? I mean, if we can have something like Peertube then I don't see why we can't have good old forums again. No upvotes or followers determining your visibility, posts are sorted chronologically, threads last more than a day. Maybe with federation they'd be less cliquey than regular forums have become now.

>>65052 Yes, a forum or imageboard federation seems like a very nice idea.

>>65061 such a thing exists but the entire network is more or less dead https://github.com/fchannel0/fchannel-server one instance of fchannel remains and the other two instances on the network runs my textboard counterpart to it

Instead of worrying about what will replace Twitter why don't we ask ourselves why we need anything like it and what does it do that can't be done some other way.

>>65061 >>65065 What ever happened to nntpchan?

>>65030 What's bad about ActivityPub? I'd like to think it's become kinda the main fediverse standard for some good reasons but I haven't read into the tech at all.

>>65072 1) federation is slow and unreliable 2) most implementations can't really talk to each other because most of the 'standards' are really more like suggestions 3) the mastodon dev lead Eugen keeps unilaterally making stupid decisions

>>65071 development stopped 2hu-ch.org (ran by the developer, i assume) actually transitioned to an fchannel server for some time, but now it's not

>>65073 >1) federation is slow and unreliable its also pointless and you have to be autistic to even fall for it. this little idea of having "domains" for your protocol, like xmpp or whatever the hell nntpchan is (nntp is literal email-tier obsolete garbage), is so stunningly pointless that the basic intelligence of the user/dev has to be questioned when they mention that they use one of these. federation serves literally no purpose. you could just as well use a content addressable storage and put all your data there. what the actual hell difference does federation make? that some faggit can comb over data / users (in the case of xmpp) and choose which one he likes or not? with freenet the data is just there until it disappears because nobody wants it anymore. they even have WoT to filter "stuff i dont like" and ergo it is actually stuff i dont like instead of stuff the admin doesnt like. problem solved.

>>65072 as said previously, the standards are essentially suggestions. the standards allow too much freedom in what is valid and what's not. it seems simple but nothing ever actually is and json-ld needlessly complicates it this makes it simultaneously powerful and a complete pain in the ass to work with. did you know you can view, like, and comment on a peertube video from mastodon?

>>65090 > federation serves literally no purpose. This is a top-tier fool take. How about: 1. not concentrating the power into a single person / group. 2. impossible to shutdown the whole network. 3. the network cannot go bankrupt (unlike twitter) 4. no ads So far, mastodon has been pretty comfy. Started following FOSS-related people, and used the word filters to get rid of any burger politics on my home feed.

>>65091 >did you know you can view, like, and comment on a peertube video from mastodon? Really? Last I recall any peertube post was extremely buggy to interact with from other software, but that was almost a year ago now

I like the idea but most instances I looked at, other than the big official ones, were either: * Nazi and pedo spam * Antifa commie lgbtq * FOSS extremists people * Private I kinda expected it, alternative platforms attract those who don't fit in the spaces for "normal" people. I have also doubts that the federation model can scale to twitter-level number of users, I doubt there are going to be enough people interested in hosting servers for strangers for free. Other than this, I haven't found anything interesting on it. I initially made an account on twitter because I often got there because people linked good tweets elsewhere, I have yet to find someone link a good mastodon post...

>>65129 >I kinda expected it, alternative platforms attract those who don't fit in the spaces for "normal" people. There are the ones for local areas / countries / cities. Those probably have normal people. I just joined a big one. But to be honest, probably doesn't matter much, as I only look at the people I follow anyway. I don't venture into the local or federated feeds. >Other than this, I haven't found anything interesting on it. I initially made an account on twitter because I often got there because people linked good tweets elsewhere, I have yet to find someone link a good mastodon post... Twitter is probably 100x or 1000x larger, even accounting for the new huge influx of people to Mastodon. Also, posts on Mastodon propagate by "boosts", and are ordered chronologically. So there's no algorithm the pushing things to the top based on engagement. Stuff is bound to be less "viral", and more organic.

>>65004 No quality posts, ever, and tons of pointless e-drama. The main problem with twitter was never the fact it was censored, heck, you could say whatever you liked pre-2016 really. The problem with twitter is inherent to all social media, its generally unhealthy and creates a hive mind. Therefore, mastodon, pleroma, and any other federated services merely are poor imitations of their originals, with the ability to say racial slurs or CP I suppose.

Whenever I think about Mastodon I feel like I'm missing out. Whenever I look at Mastodon I say lolnope.

Thoughts on this scam? It's kind of hilarious at this point what a wet fart it has become.

when I tried to use mastodon I managed to find some /comf/y artsy instances and followed mostly cool peeps from there and a couple people I knew from ~here. The posts I ended up seeing seemed to end up being like 30 percent anime tiddies and other lewds. 0/10 am not allow. If I wanted that I could just go to 4ourchan. NEVER AGAIN.

>>65338 I only use an instance dedicated to a fairly niche interest that only allows posts relating to that interest. This weeds out most nonfat-soykaf drinkers from my following feed and local feed, but my federated feed is a mess of internet addicts shouting their dumbest thoughts into the void. I tried following some people on other instances who seemed cool and made good content, but then my feed was full of boosted soykafposts. Never again.

After a test ride I have the same opinion I had years ago when I tried a pleroma instance It makes it quite clear the best way to use it is to have an instance for yourself, which is way too much of a hassle for the privilege of interacting with randoms

pleroma is better but it's boring since it's really difficult to find good instances

Mastodon, Peertube, and Pleroma are still soycial media. Better not to use anything at all.

>>65365 MUH SOYCIAL MEEDEEYUH! shut up.

>>65004 >>65006 >>65014 services like IRC, XMPP, etc. are not appealing to normal people. Mastodon has the potential to be appealing and its federated nature should make it a lot less dangerous than a platform like twitter with its centralized power actively creating and supporting fake narratives to influence the masses

>>65365 Federated protocols fix most of the problems with social media (advertising, spying, centralized control). Distributed would be even better but we're still a ways off from that.

This is now an activitypub network sharing thread. This is my address. @grey@ruby.social

>>65369 >Federated protocols fix most of the problems with social media (advertising, spying, centralized control). Those are secondary issues. The primary ones are oversocialization, overstimulation and destroyed attention span, and I don't see how federated networks as such help with those in any way.

>>65004 I've tried to use fedi multiple times and used it for a while a few times. I did at least two ~1 year periods. The problem I found is that it has too much of the worst of twitter and chans. I'm starting to think chat platforms like matrix are just a better fit for the human brain. I can still see value on something like twitter if it's geared towards broadcasting (of news or art) and not towards "every retard has a voice". But I don't know how to engineer a platform naturally tends to that.. How to make the simple platform interactions like share, like, etc be rewarding enough that people feel little need to commend and even less need to broadcast.

>>65004 Is there any way to use it privacy preserving and possibly only for one-on-one interactions? In my field there is an extreme push to move over, with a field wide follow-for-follow including famous researchers, which sounds like an opportunity that would be bad to miss out on. But I don't enjoy public posting or had a twitter account before, and I'm at a loss of what to do.

>>65411 You can just send direct messages. They're not really "private" in that for everyone mentioned in your DM, their server has access to your message. You don't have to give up any personally identifying info if you don't want to. If you don't want to use mastodon, then don't use it, its that simple.

>>65397 i can smell the incel from that post

>>65417 Im not that person but I think those are valid criticisms to social media. Care to elaborate?

>>65418 Oversocialization is a made up myth, oversimulation and attention span can be issues on an individual level if you lack self-control. HOWEVER it stands to argue that proprietary social networks employ algorithms and artificially boosted content to keep you "hooked" on them as long as possible whereas FOSS alternatives (and even imageboards and forums for that matter) are much more linear and therefore feel less addicting. Remember that study facebook did to influence the mood of its users?

>>65417 It could just as easily be someone who longs for a return to a simpler more intimate life, either a village or a tightly knit urban neighbourhood. Interacting with hundreds of people everyday is not what the human brain is evolved to do.

>>65420 Very low quality post, there isn't even much to reply to. >Oversocialization is a made up myth Seems real to me. >it stands to argue that proprietary social networks employ algorithms and artificially boosted content to keep you "hooked" The fact that someone found a way to make social media worse doesn't mean it's not a fundamentally bad model. I think that's the point the other person was making. I still don't see why you would call that person an incel.

>>65432 Because name-calling has worked for them very well to this point in their life and if they call them a thing that is considered "bad", they believe that individual will trip over themselves to change how they are perceived. They have no real arguement, this is just how they have always gotten their way. They will ignore all instances in which this is not the case, unfortunately, and never be able to grow as a person. Social media is bad. People are less connected. The family unit is practically dead. To the point where people complain constantly about how children=bad becuase they misplaced their hatred for bad parents, and so on. It's just easier for them to look at the world in black and white, while creating grey-area for things that can contradict their worldview. You "beat it" or "correct it" by simply pointing it out and not falling for peer pressure.

>>65040 then I guess you should still advocate for Mastodon, as essentially it's one of the best ways to promote other ActivityPub apps. I love that I can comment/subscribe to peertube channels with my mastodon accounts, that's very cool

>>65004 I think both Twitter and Mastodon fundamentally fails at serving a social media that makes people better off. Both prioritize following personalities rather than topics, which tends to both lead to off-topic conversation and thought bubbling, making it for me seeing it as unproductive and soul-draining. Mastodon makes an effort at solving only one issue, being the centralization of mod power -- but the resulting schism in the fediverse between censor-happy jannies and free speech nazis just magnifies the thought bubble issue (not to mention it's hard to scale for censoring legitimately illegal content)

>>65499 >Both prioritize following personalities rather than topics agreed, but mastodon is making moves in the other way. Since 4.0 you can follow hashtags, and also the existence of local feeds, on specialized instances, make it way more topic-centered to begin with

Seems better than Twitter but I have no reason to use it. I'm also not going to demonize the people that do because for a lot of people this is their first exposure to a system like this and it isn't a bad thing.

>>65027 > Yeah, but generally you want to find an instance with people you'd get along with. then how is it considered an alternative to twitter? the best thing about twitter was that - in theory - everyone could read and interact with everyone. if i now stuck to my very instance, how is this not just an elaborate circle jerk of likeminded people, leading to mental incest? it's like saying "you know what would be a great twitter replacement? facebook groups!"

>>65615 You don't have to stick to your instance at all. However, the admins of your instance will be the people who moderate you, and the general culture if your instance influences which other instances yours is heavily federated with (you are more likely to see a post in the federated timeline if someone on your instance follows the poster).

>>65615 Maybe some people are just sick of political crusaders taking over every community they try to participate in. I can see the appeal of "invite only" spaces. Different opinions are one thing, completely off topic prefab missionary BS is totally another.

Thoughts on the scraping of Mastodon posts? It seems like some people were genuinely surprised the first time this happened. Did they really expect anything else to happen on a public network? It seems to me like sometimes people project other things they want to fight (like privacy) for onto the Fediverse. But it should be obvious that when you use a system that functions as a public gathering place (social media) you can't have any reasonable expectation of privacy.

>>65629 How else would you make all talked points available to everyone? Twitter is a centralized "silo" but at least you can reliably look up for any post by any user with a variety of conditions. This is apparently not a case on current day fediverse twitter replacements.

>>65629 Quite a lot of people who use mastodon are either technologically illiterate, or they've mega-dosed on ideology and therefore cannot realize how fuarrrking stupid it is to expect your public posts to be private. >>65637 >How else would you make all talked points available to everyone? Well, they are still available (except for closed instances that don't federate with anyone). It just might be hard to find them. Considering how the vast majority of 'talked points' are not relevant to most people, this seems like a fine middle ground. The way federation works is pretty soykaf-teir to be honest, it's basically implementing the worst aspects of NNTP using HTTP.

>>65004 Mastodon has been TERRIBLE since those Twitter refugees came onto all the instances fuarrrking up everything

>>65658 Try pleroma or misskey instead. Different internet cultures tend to use different softwares.

>>65620 >Different opinions are one thing, completely off topic prefab missionary BS is totally another "different opinions I like are okay, but different opinions I dislike is prefab BS" that's some honest intellectual thinking we got here >>65629 >when you use a system that functions as a public gathering place (social media) you can't have any reasonable expectation of privacy yeah it was genuinely embarrassing to see everyone go "be careful, mastodon admins can read your private messages". More and more I'm convinced internet should have never been democratized

>>65703 >"different opinions I like are okay, but different opinions I dislike is prefab BS" If the only way you can think of to ciriticise somebody's point is to intentionally misread it, maybe you should just not mother arguing.

I'm very doubtful about several things brought by 4.0 and it's leading me to believe that mastodon may not last as the #1 microblogging application for ActivityPub >>65721 If the only way you can think of to ciriticise somebody's point is to say it's prefab missionary BS, maybe you should just not bother going to public spaces.

>>65703 >"different opinions I like are okay, but different opinions I dislike is prefab BS" I think "prefab BS" means someone already has all their talking points cued up and nothing you say will actually alter the path of the discussion. Someone who won't change the subject and won't change their mind. If you want to play the free speech card you need to abide by the rules of good faith objective discussions. >Prefab missionary BS You also missed out a word. Missionary means they are not invested in the community at all. They're an outside person with an outside agenda and nobody owes them soykaf.

>>65853 >>65703 Expecting people to stay on topic and not force their agenda into discussions where it isn't even relevant shouldn't be asking too much.

I used Mastodon before. I felt like I couldn't improve myself as much as I wanted to on there. Now I only go on Lainchan or IRC.

>>65020 >>65022 the main problem is, that mastodon is by design the wet dream of anyone who thought twitters content policing was too soft so far. if you own a instance, you can not just read whatever your users write even in dms, you can kick/ban them for whatever reason you see fit. don't like the content of another instance? just defederate it from your server. basically, mastodon is worse twitter and many users already complaint that their accounts got deleted minutes after creation. i start to feel that mastodon is the perfect example of why such decentralized content platforms won't work unless admins have to agree to a set of rules the protocol devs want them to before using it or get punished by defederation. TLDR; it's a privacy nightmare and a soykafshow of conduct.

>>65896 >I can't believe this decentralized platform gives people the freedom to do what they want with it!

>>65884 and you see it as a good thing?

Does anyone here know a mastodon server that is just general purpose one which let's people form their own follow lists? I've been on one server for a good while, figuring out how the activitypub protocol works. Now the admin is private messaging me, telling me to leave the server because he got multiple complaints about me following an account that is on another server that has other accounts that are bad. So he wants me to leave or he'll just delete my account before I can get my follow list out. I kept trying to follow as many accounts as I could so I could see the known network branch out. All the big servers are swamped right now. Smaller servers seem to be insular and ban almost all other servers. I found this one https://letsalllovela.in/main/public but it looks like they don't allow new sign ups. I don't know where to go.

Are there any lainchan/lain themed servers?

>>65903 Yeah I don't see what the problem is from that description. Users don't get kicked off the platform for their posts but I can (metaphorically) kick someone out of my own living room for them. Oh dear, they will just have to go start their own salon where I'm probably not invited. Life is too short to listen to people who don't matter.

>>65903 if you enjoy intellectual masturbation and dwelling in echo chambers, you can basically ignore all of my critisim, yes.

>>65896 It's not a privacy nightmare, just spin up an instance on your own VPS. Confederate with anything-legal-goes servers of your choice. Anything you say is both an argument against the old Internet, and federation in general. If you make the protocol devs the de-facto admins, nothing has changed. I'd agree that federation isn't ideal, and that the old internet wasn't ideal either, but both are vast improvements over centralized megacorp soykaf. A mastodon admin might read your DM, but they can't track you on every website on the net and quite literally your every step in meatspace. What you want seems more like retroshare, run over i2p or TOR. Better, sure, but barely anyone uses it, and you're probably never going to get anyone to do so because it sort of requires a personal VPS that is up 24/7, or it's gonna take hours to find DMs and new posts.

>>65935 >Now the admin is private messaging me, telling me to leave the server because he got multiple complaints about me following an account that is on another server that has other accounts that are bad. So he wants me to leave or he'll just delete my account before I can get my follow list out. >I kept trying to follow as many accounts as I could so I could see the known network branch out. sounds like the admin doesn't understand the tools at his disposal. if he doesn't want to federate with that instance, he should block it, not kick you for following an account that doesn't break his rules.

>>66130 Or move to a different server, or spin up your own, baka. You're basically complaining that other people freely choose to do things in a way you don't like.

>>65935 >>66135 Admin is power tripping and is not interested in resolving the issue, only in punishing wrongthink. Take your follow list *now* (it takes as long as the time it took to write your post) and leave. Do not reply to him and do not post in this thread until you have done this.

>>65896 Lmao, I've seen hardcore lefties who you probably think are the problem making this exact same criticism, but in reverse -- "this platform is too open"

>>66131 >>66140 >>66142 you guys obviously have no idea about the way such platforms work and what makes them interesting. your only reflex to problems are generic statements like "just make your own instance lol" or "why do you hate freedom?" - that's not the issue here. what twitter made so successful was the melange of topics and people and for a while it was enough to just block/mute people you didn't want to pop up in your timeline. the problematic wave of bans began right in 2016 and only stopped when musk took over the platform. mastodon looks nice with all the federation, but it's being abused, because now every janny who knows how to run an instance and to market it to "refugees" gets the power to decide whats happening in everyones timeline. like in germany, when a prominent tv personality advertised a german instance and after people looked at it closer, it turned out to be made by someone from his staff - this is unheard of. "move to a different server" - what kind of solution is that? "move around until you find a server that's not managed by a powertripping asshole with nothing better to do than to handpick users who's taste in music he dosen't like and kick them off his server" - and what's next, every server is excluding other servers so in general the federation is dead, creating bubbles of likeminded instances - yeah, that's REALLY great. btw, i have no idea why the "old internet" is brought up here, i'm online since 1998 and such problems simply never existed before the rise of social media. and statements like "A mastodon admin might read your DM, but (...)" are really heavy given the problem, that many mastodon servers are now run and populated by sparetime fed informants who get off throwing people under the bus for being whateverphobic.

>>66145 > "move to a different server" - what kind of solution is that? Its the same idea as "vote with your dollar". Why do you think people are leaving twitter in the first place? >and what's next, every server is excluding other servers so in general the federation is dead, creating bubbles of likeminded instances - yeah, that's REALLY great. Vast majority of servers, including almost all the big servers, are not ban-happy with the defederation. That bubbling problem you speak of has happened multiple times over the years and the bubbles always die out in favor of the large, mostly-connected network.

>>66147 >Its the same idea as "vote with your dollar". Why do you think people are leaving twitter in the first place? that's the thing: they don't. it's just some "elon bad"-pundits that put their mastodon-account in their name and keep on tweeting.

>>66152 Strange that its going along with a massive increase in mastodon users, many of whom self-identify as former twitter users. I'm sure they're all bots though.

>>66154 creating a mastodon account doesn't necessarily mean that they completley abandoned twitter. i've seen this several times in the past 10, 12 years, when people left for "better" services, like app.net and they all crawled back within two weeks because they couldn't get their dopamine fix there. remember all the celebs who vowed to move to canada once trump took office? it's the same crap all over again.

>>66155 Does regularly using a mastodon account mean that they've switched over from twitter? Because daily active user counts have also spiked on most of the big instances, in a way that is easily observed if you just use the network.

>>66156 >Twitter sign-ups and active user minutes reach an all-time high, even though controversies surrounding the social media platform remain. >An average of more than two million users are signing up on the platform daily, a 66 percent increase from the same period in 2021. https://screenrant.com/twitter-sign-ups-increase-new-features-coming/ i don't think the userbase cares.

>>66145 > "move to a different server" - what kind of solution is that? one that works.There is a feature that allows you to export your profile and move it new server. I think that is pretty neat.

>>66158 yeah, nothing more "neat" than to have to set up a new account again and hope that you can get your followers/followees back, because some amateur admin didn't like your anime pfp.

>>66157 So you believe that since people are signing up for twitter, it means that the existing userbase is not leaving for mastodon? Curious non sequitur there. The vast majority of mastodon users are former twitter users, either from this round of migration or one of the other ones. This cannot be denied.

>>66145 "Waahhhh I have to follow the rules of the person who puts in the resources and efforts to maintain an instance!!!" Did you think online services fall out of the sky? Did you think it was really any different when you used Twitter's servers? You're a fuarrrking imbecile.

Any frontend where you can disable infinite scrolling? I find it very unhealthy. Thanks.

>>65004 Most mastadon instances are filled with ban happy trannies. I use fediblock primarily to find the fun instances. My absolute conditions for the perfect instance >Absolute freedom of speech and no banning for "bad words" >Absolute freedom of artistic expression unless it doesn't encourage harm to another person So far only bae.st probably qualify for my condition

>>66466 whats your gripe with freespeech extremist? sincere question I dont follow mastodon that closely.

>>65004 Most mastadon instances are filled with ban happy trannies. I use fediblock primarily to find the fun instances. My absolute conditions for the perfect instance >Absolute freedom of speech and no banning for "bad words" >Absolute freedom of artistic expression unless it doesn't encourage harm to another person So far only bae.st probably qualify for my condition >>66459 Use bloat FE

>>66468 Enjoy your datamining freezed peaches instance that's gonna disappear into the ether any random day

>>65367 But people keep autonomously deciding to do things I don't like! People should be forced to do what I want them to. Anything else is a violation of my freedoms.

>>66589 I've been running my own instance for myself and a handful of friends and the experience is much better than on large instance. There are some small implementations that don't use much resources like pleroma and mastodon.

looks like twitter is killing off third party clients and some apis, since i refuse to use that abortion they call their mobile app, i'm going to look at mastodon - too bad there's literally no one i find remotly interesting enough to follow.

tapods (the developers of the popular twitter client "tweetbot") are working on a mastodon-client, wich could help getting more people on there since their twitter client already is very popular and often described as the best possible client available. might be a breakthrough for the platform for normal people (and everyone who don't want to suffer the abysmal ux mastodon delivers out of the box). https://tapbots.com/ivory/

>>66587 It's been almost 2 years and my instance still exists. Thanks to your ban happy tranny instances, we now have a high rate of interaction.

Mastedon is soykaf because its a just higher concentration of all the people who made twitter terrible in the first place. I see the same problem with gemini these days too. It becomes more obvious because there isn't bigger enough pool to drown those people out.

Now that Nostr is a thing, the fediverse is irrelevant

>>66613 The blocklist is hilarious. Post a public list describing why each place is "bad" and giving links to them. More like a "here's the sites to check out" list.

another network that isolated users and, hosts cops and nazis, and breeds fascists. most servers are run by national security staters in cooperation with musk and the Israeli mossad. fasctodon, all of fedi is like kicking dead whales down the beach

>>66739 I assure you any social media platform without moderation will be filled with outcasts posting illegal stuff because they're derezzed from anywhere else.