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Linux distro thread 2.0

H.R. Giger · 2022-08-25 22:08
>>52003 has reached it's limit Yes this question gets asked all the fuarrrking time but it never gets old. What Linux distro do you all use? Personally I use Devuan since it's Debian without Systemd.
Ender · 2022-08-25 22:14
>>62789 >Saying "linux distro thread" >Posting pony picture I can't get it. Also, i don't think we need more threads discussing -- distro hopping meme / battle -- between distros.
Meddler · 2022-08-25 22:24
>>62789 how does void (musl and glibc) compare to artix? i've been trying to leave arch for something more minimal, and i'm stuck between those 2
Ivan Horvat · 2022-08-26 00:50
>>62791 Artix uses glibc so Void musl is more minimal. Also you want the minimal Artix ISO and not any of the desktop environments since they come with software pre-installed, but then again, some of the packages in Artix are modified to include branding. Also Void should be compared to Alpine (no systemd, glibc, or gnu).
Pris · 2022-08-26 00:55
>>62789 >since it's *** without Systemd.
Trinity · 2022-08-26 02:11
>>62790 >I can't get it. Look at their cutie-marks.
Yuki Nagato · 2022-08-26 02:46
>>62795 The centos one should be replaced with a bottle of glue.
Terzibashjian · 2022-08-26 07:37
>>62789 Gentoo. Once it's installed it's a lot of fun and gives you unparalleled control over your packages, and is actually not very hard since once you've learned it it's all just more of the same and actions like unmasking packages become second nature. Plus, it has by far the best documentation out of any distro I've tried so far. Pics rel. >>62791 I've used both, and I prefer void for a few reasons. It uses runit as its init system which is very minimal and easily customizable, it has a guided installer which still gives you a good level of control (especially in partitioning discs), it has the xbps package manager which is fast and simple and has xbps-src, etc. The two downsides I'd say it has compared to artix are less support (although the xbps repos are very good) and it being VERY minimal in that some tools which you might expect to have by default such as wget and git just aren't there to begin with.
Roger Pollack · 2022-08-26 12:01
Do not use Manjaro. It Sucks: https://manjarno.snorlax.sh/ (just install regular Arch or Artix) I decided to try a Systemd distro again, so I installed Arch Linux. And I can confirm that nothing of value is added by Systemd: it's not faster (than Runit or OpenRC) and it's not easier to use. https://without-systemd.org/wiki/index_php/Arguments_against_systemd/ and https://nosystemd.org/ were right. >>62791 >how does void (musl and glibc) compare to artix? First, if you want a musl distro, your only real options are Alpine Linux and Gentoo. Void's musl support is lacking (at least when I tried it). As others have said, Void is more minimal than Arch/Artix (but not as minimal as Alpine). Void uses Runit but you can also install Runit on Artix (Alpine uses OpenRC and Artix supports multiple init systems). If you only want to switch from Arch Linux because of Systemd, you should install Artix (because it's a fork of Arch without Systemd). >and i'm stuck between those 2 Try both of them. You can use VirtualBox.
Yamaoto Toshi · 2022-08-26 12:50
>>62791 Artix and Void are very similar, with the main differences being package manager, init (optionally), and C standard library (optionally). Use Artix if you want familiarity, otherwise if the other differences don't mean much to you then flip a coin.
Mario Rossi · 2022-08-26 18:51
Bottom Tier Ubuntu - Literally soyware. It uses snap which is a walled garden that spies on you with no way to disable it. Also bloated and slow. Linux Mint - Doesn't support Wayland. Manjaro - Literally Arch with an installer and slower to update. Repos are held back 2 weeks which is bad for security. Also it bundles proprietary soyware. Slackware - Only updates once every 5 years. Also doesn't use systemd. Low Tier Void Linux - Literally Arch without systemd and slow to update. Gentoo - A somewhat viable option if you have absolutely no life. Otherwise, save yourself time and sanity and install something that just works. Alpine Linux - The biggest meme distro apart from the "free software" distros. It doesn't use Systemd. It doesn't use glibc. It doesn't even use the GNU coreutils. Literally an unusable piece of soykaf. Debian - Enjoy your outdated packages and soykaf package manager. Mid Tier Arch Linux - A decent distro if you're willing to constantly update and maintain it. You must have at least 5 years of IT experience in order to use it and you must harden the system and stay up-to-date and adopt new technologies. Beginners should fuarrrk off. NixOS - One of the best package managers and it has atomic updates but it's source-based. Good for people with no life. OpenSUSE - Enjoy your bloat. High Tier Fedora Workstation - Has the most secure package manager, uses GNOME by default, packages are mostly up-to-date, stable release with new versions every 6 months, adopts new technologies fast like Wayland, Pipewire, and FS-Verity, the most sane defaults of any distro. Literally the ideal distro for normal people and advanced users alike. Fedora Silverblue - Even better than Fedora Workstation because it uses rpm-ostree and has atomic updates making it far more reliable than almost any other distro. It also uses based Flatpaks, the sane way to install packages. Most people should use this. Top Tier QubesOS - The most secure Linux distro as it isolates everything into different containers using virtualization and is BASED on Fedora. The best distro.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA · 2022-08-26 23:49
>>62834 >linux mint as bottom just because wayland >muh soy >calling an OS unusable because you can't use it >falsely suggesting void is anything like arch >calling 6 month updates good but 2 week delays bad >calling qubes a linux distro >using the words 'most secure' unironically >that then after all this gatekeeping arch telling lusers to 'fuarrrk off' HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHA OH WOW 8/10 - subtle enough that people will take you seriously and bite the bait, but a few missed opportunities keeps it from scoring 9+
Drifter · 2022-08-27 00:14
>>62838 >treats it like it isnt bait >calls it bait to secure his ego >bites the bait
Lunch · 2022-08-27 15:55
>>62834 >Ubuntu - Literally soyware. It uses snap which is a walled garden that spies on you with no way to disable it. sudo apt remove snapd && sudo apt-mark hold snapd && sudo apt install flatpak There, problem solved. >Also bloated and slow. Anything with Gnome is bloated and slow so I'll give you that. >Linux Mint - Doesn't support Wayland. Wayland doesn't solve a problem that most people have, and introduces new problems of its own that people have to get around to do their work. Also the Mint team is currently working on Wayland support on Cinnamon. >Debian - Enjoy your outdated packages and soykaf package manager. Debian is a long term support, static distribution. It's not meant to give you the latest soykaf because that's not the goal. The goal is stability. And it's not like it ties your hands behind your back either, if you want the latest soykaf, either install Debian Testing or get your packages as flatpaks. Flatpak releases nowadays tend to be more up to date than the versions in most individual distros' package repos anyway unless it's something like Arch.
Delilah · 2022-08-27 16:28
>>62847 It's bait. >no way to disable it Is a dead giveaway.
Crazy Jake · 2022-08-27 16:56
>>62848 Of course it's bait, but I've seen these opinions echoed all over FOSS communities in a serious manner. Hell, there's a whole YouTube channel that says stuff like this and it has 200k subscribers. It's important to counter misinformation, as it's preferable to ridiculing it because then you look like the bad guy to the people who drank the koolaid.
Hagbard Celine · 2022-08-27 23:30
>>62839 >highlighting your favorite parts of a joke means... uh.. that you are starting a fight! Lighten up, friend. I'm just laughing. Not everywhere is dedicated to SRSBSNS crying all the time
Wintermute · 2022-08-28 15:03
Its not a linux distro, but how about reactos? Is it still a toy os like haiku?
Lunch · 2022-08-28 15:51
>>62880 > how about reactos? Is it still a toy os like haiku? ReactOS is not usable outside of a VM. Haiku is more usable than ReactOS but HW compatibility is not still very good.
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2022-08-28 16:11
>>62880 Yes. In fact, ReactOS doesn't even intend to be a daily driver. As a project, it's pretty much pointless at this time. Haiku is not quite as glacial because it has a attainable goal, but is still very slow in development. They have also made the very poor decision to write everything in C++. So there's little language support for it. If it's not appealing to software developers, it's already dead in the water.
fsociety · 2022-08-28 20:51
>>62789 I like Devuan, very stable and gets out of the way. Can install and compile most things like any DEB based distribution and unlike RPM-based distros (except OpenSUSE and PCLinux) it wont be a pain to install non-free drivers and programs. I personally use CRUX because of its package manager. I needed something that can install and tweak anything. Is a slow process because there is no easy removal or recompile of packages but it does have dependency resolution. I wish a CRUX pkgutils with Gentoo's USE flags existed but nothing as simple yet.
John Titor · 2022-08-29 00:40
>>62888 >I needed something that can install and tweak anything. That's interesting. Why did you need that?
Nell · 2022-08-29 00:58
Anyone know of a distro or DE that allows you to pin a specific executable file to your launch menu or make a shortcut to it using a right click instead of having to make a whole custom .desktop file? Asking because this is something I've missed greatly from windows and causes problems whenever I can't find something in my distro's repositories.
Undisclosed · 2022-08-29 01:23
>>62790 It's an antishill tactic by the same person to turn people away from linux Every single altchan has the same thread with the same picture and the same OP It's blatantly obvious
Bob Arctor · 2022-08-29 12:43
>>62901 I know that in Xfce4 you can make a keyboard shortcut to any executable: Settings => Keyboard => Application Shortcuts tab => add The easiest way to accomplish what you want, is to install rofi and bind it (see above) to Super+r winkey = super Rofi is like the windoze run dialog on steroids. Try: rofi -show run -matching glob If you install either IceWM or OpenBox, you can very easily customize menus to your liking (but you need to edit the config files using your text editor).
Yuki Nagato · 2022-08-31 11:13
>>62900 Is to make my system work 100% without problems. For example I compile everything to run under ALSA so I didnt had a single audio problem in years like sometimes had in Debian, I also compile extra features in programs I want or deactivate things I do not.
Hagbard Celine · 2022-08-31 15:25
>>62987 So either you do work to prevent problems ahead of time, or you do work to solve problems. If there weren't so many problems, you could avoid doing work all together.
Masami Eiri · 2022-09-01 22:50
>>62834 > Slackware - Only updates once every 5 years. Also doesn't use systemd. What's the problem?