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Ene · 2022-01-30 22:38
Look, I bought a MacBook air m1 and I regret it. The read/write usage numbers after 10 months are absurdly high at 124tb and 115tb respectively. I realized after buying, that, with m1, 8gb wouldn’t be enough even for web browsing. I also realized how much of a detriment having no upgradable insides (esp. w/ high read/write), no ports, no linux support is. That said, everything else in the $899 w/ student pricing has a fuarrrking 1080p or lower soykafty ugly panel, a soykafty plastic build, cheap flexing keyboard, dinky plastic trackpad, and soykafty tin speakers yada yada yada just nothing that can hold a candle to the m1 air in terms of hardware quality. Or If not that then it’s just a soykafty “ultra book” second-rate MacBook with all of the problems of a MacBook like the surface laptop or dell xps. I know the read/write SSD wear, lack of ports, and soldered bs is like kicking dead whales down the beach, but please point me in the direction of a non-plastic trash machine for a similar price. And no, I won’t sift through thrift shops for the off chance of finding a decade-old piece of black and red ch-nk hardware.
Ki · 2022-01-31 00:43
Recently I had to buy a laptop for work/travel and I had a budget of $1100 which is only slightly over yours. Now granted I probably have different requirements than you as I needed a lot of horsepower for some rather unoptimized python that would be ran in various VMs, plus I wanted a machine that could do some light gaming. I always wrote gaming laptops off as a dumb overpriced meme but with the current state of hardware I said fuarrrk it and spent some time looking at various laptop benchmarks and reviews and eventually settled on one of those generic gaymer laptops that use a generic Chinese frame and such. And wow was that a good decision.
>Every part except GPU is replaceable
>Able to play games like half life alyx on ultra
>0 throttling even when gaming for 10+ hours
>15 inch laptop that easily fits in any backpack
>Easily handles several Ubuntu VMs simultaneously
>Subtle, not covered in gamer rgb logos
>Build quality is very high, no keyboard flex
>Best trackpad I've ever seen on a non apple product
To be fair it's not without its downsides. This thing is certainly thicker and heavier than your average laptop, but not by that much. Also it sounds like a jet engine when under full GPU load, but I'd rather have noise and thickness than throttling or melting my hardware.
I don't know if this is what you're looking for since you seem to be focused on lightweight ultrabooks, but it works perfectly for me. I have no issue taking it with me in my backpack wherever I go
Ene · 2022-01-31 02:44
>>56493
I should've mentioned that I'm not really concerned with muh thin and light. As for gaming: I haven't really gamed since the modern warfare and halo 3 days in school. I won't brush it off though- you sell it nicely. What's the name of that thing?
Ki · 2022-01-31 03:27
>>56499
The specific laptop I got was an eluktroniks mech-15 G3, but you don't have to get that specific one since price and availability can fluctuate and because there's other companies like XMG and cyberpowerPC that sell the exact same models as eluktroniks but rebranded. they're actually all made by tongfang, a company that only sells their products to other companies to be rebranded. Just make sure to look at reviews, most tongfang laptops are really good but there's a couple of bad models
Netrunner · 2022-02-02 16:32
I can't believe there re no 13-14" (A4 paper size) laptops with UHD display (are there even 16:10 models of these?), latest Intel CPU and removable storage for $900. Is it because of USD inflation? That means everyone else outside is double-plus poorer. Also I remember Framework meme laptop was around this price on pre-order.
https://frame.work/
>DIY Edition configurable from $749
That is barebones without OS, wireless card, memory and SSD and they offer them for less than retail prices in most countries. You could thrift cheap RAM and SSD in United States probably.
>>56493
Are there no-name Chinese notebooks with specs I described above? If it was something in Clevo aesthetics, but without secondary GPU and with good display panel, it would be worth something. Obviously I'm not talking about macbook clones from Chinese Apple wannabees: Xiaomi and Huawei, those are already priced similar to Dells and Apples.
Void · 2022-02-02 16:44
>>56485
Install GNU/Linux. Doesn't Asahi Linux at least support it?
Tyrell Wellick · 2022-02-02 17:22
>>56493
Where on earth did you find this for $1100?
Nameless · 2022-02-02 23:59
>>56598
$900 isn't really that much, if you look at the price of most of the old thinkpads and other machines that lains like they were more than that at launch
Tuxedo Computers in europe and a few others do a machine like what you're after starting around 11k Euros from memory, I'm tempted by the framework myself but the batter life is pretty garbage
Ki · 2022-02-03 03:21
>>56600
Amazon. The laptop has a rtx 2070 and i7 10875h. keep in mind the same model of laptop can have specs that vary wildly, and daily prices can fluctuate. Go to Amazon/google/etc and search "rtx 2070 laptop". I see plenty of options for 1100-1200, even less if you search for a 2060 instead. Then you'll just have to check reviews to make sure it doesn't throttle and has good build quality and such. YouTube reviewers love to spend 15 minutes talking about build quality to pad out the time of their videos if that's what you're into.
>>56598
>Are there no-name Chinese notebooks with specs I described above
Companies like tongfang tend to only target the most common of sizes like 15" and 17.3" so not really. If you're curious, the only laptops I can think of in that size and price would be something from the Microsoft Surface line, like a used/refurbished surface pro 8 or Laptop 4. Removable storage and a modern CPU, but they use a weak 35 watt chip in the base models so the performance is mediocre at best, and the Linux support is abysmal and you'll have to compile your own kernel. But they have insanely high resolutions and amazing touch screens if that's what you're into.
Jean Dupont · 2022-02-03 13:57
>>56599
Asahi runs but isn't stable or meant for daily usage. And not all the drivers have been reverse-engineered yet, so for example thunderbolt, bluetooth, and the GPU won't work: https://github.com/AsahiLinux/docs/wiki/Feature-Support
Roy Batty · 2022-02-03 20:07
>>56485
Thats too bad, but thanks for warning us, i would never buy apple, but some do.
>>56493
That sounds like a real beefy machine, if i didnt sit on piles of hardware already, id get me one of them.
But who knows maybe ill come across one of them some day.
Nell · 2022-02-03 20:43
>>56493
>Every part except GPU is replaceable
I was about to comment saying you cant upgrade cpu when the socket changes or the memory when ddr changes etc.. then saw it says "replaceable" not upgradable.
Ki · 2022-02-04 02:27
>>56635
>you cant upgrade cpu when the socket changes or the memory when ddr changes etc
To play devil's advocate, if I wanted to upgrade my desktop to the latest Intel CPU or DDR5 ram, I'd have to get a new CPU+mobo+ram (and PSU, those Intel chips are thirsty and can use 250+ watts). Assuming I'm buying midrange parts, that would end up only being slightly cheaper than me "upgrading" my laptop socket by just buying a new laptop
J.C. Denton · 2022-02-05 01:21
Lainanon, if you were looking to replace a dying laptop and an OK desktop with one laptop that needs great linux compatibility, ideally multiple storage slots, at least 16gb of RAM, at least a quad core but ideally a ryzen APU, and a 13-14'' form factor what would you buy?
I have a budget of about 650 bongers to spend, I've been looking at t495S' on ebay and a couple other things but I'm not sure what to go for.
BloodCat · 2022-02-05 04:54
>>56493
I have a similar model. It's an Eluktronics MAG-15 with a 1660 Ti mobile GPU; it's also known as the Intel LAPQC71A. There's an RTX 2070 Max-Q version, but it's too expensive. There is a variant from XMG that runs a Ubuntu-based distro called TUXEDO_OS, but it should work with any other distro, NVIDIA Optimus headaches aside. The laptop itself is similar:
>CPU + GPU nonreplacable
>can support 2 M.2 SSDs
>CPU can be undervolted
>laptop weighs about 4.2 pounds
>15.6" IPS 1080p 144Hz display
>noisy under load, but fans cool well
>can run VR but at medium or lower settings
>huge power brick for charging the laptop
I bought one used for about $800 on eBay, which is a good deal.
Ki · 2022-02-05 07:51
>>56693
>NVIDIA Optimus headaches
Does your laptop have a mux switch? Being able to use that switch to entirely disable the Intel GPU is one of my favorite parts about my laptop
Cutter · 2022-02-05 17:10
>>56697
Unfortunately, no. No Advanced Optimus, either. That could be a reason why it's sold for cheap, but there's no physical damage when I got it.
Sipho Nkosi · 2022-02-05 22:25
Go back to half/g/, you latte-sipping iZoomer.
>everything else in the $899 w/ student pricing has a fuarrrking 1080p or lower soykafty ugly panel
Stop kidding yourself. 1080p is fine.
>soykafty plastic build
What's wrong with this? Plastic doesn't dent as easily as aluminum. Plus, I'm pretty sure new Inspirons are aluminum now. Maybe get an i7 Inspiron.
>cheap flexing keyboard
Only a problem if you really cheap out and/or fall for the thin and light meme.
>dinky plastic trackpad
Plastic trackpads are pretty good on Precisions and Elitebooks.
>non-plastic trash machine
Again, Inspirons are probably your best bet. Look up reviews though. Or maybe a used System76. Still don't see the problem with gray plastic.
>And no, I won’t sift through thrift shops for the off chance of finding a decade-old piece of black and red ch-nk hardware.
Pretty fallacious to pretend like the only computers other than Macs are thinkpads.
BUY USED
Neuromancer · 2022-02-05 22:27
>>56717
Oh soykaf, I am a stupid retard. I forgot to mention Framework, lol.
Yeah, nothing beats them right now.