kazakhstan governement turns off the internet

Kazakhstan governement turns off the internet. Everyone who talks about decentralized chat systems like Jabber, Diaspora, email, activitypub, and distributed chat systems like Briar and Tox, plus wholly anonymized networks to run them on like I2P or Tor, are always right about censorship and the news cycle continually proves this to be a fact. It ain't tinfoil halt conspiracy schitzo bullshit. This kind of soykaf happens somewhere at least once a year. Once it was Tunisia, then Hong Kong, now Kazakhstan. Those "paranoid weirdos" are continually vindicated.

>>55187 Does anyone have info on what manner in which the internet in Kazakhstan is "off" as they say? They might have just ordered their local ISPs to drop packets to DNS's, so it "looks off" when really your web browser just can't get help resolving domains to IPs. The net connections themselves might be fine.

>>55188 They did this in Turkey once and, as you mentioned, only turned off the ISPs DNS. This caused the people of Turkey to spray paint 8.8.8.8 on buildings.

>>55187 There are many open source mesh wifi and radio networks. They make a great pair to ipfs and zeronet. You just need to set the DHT seed to your friend’s mesh address. ZeroNet can be surprisingly normal person friendly. Lots of Iranians used when their government shut their internet down. Ideally there would be a mesh node distro that normal people can just boot on their computers. A package or configuration script would do too. I don’t know how hard it would be on phones, on android it should be possible.

>>55191 Mesh networks require friends and that's the one thing paranoid weirdos don't have.

Bad soykaf can happen at any moment, yall should know better than to think any of the systems we have are stable. Almost everything is connected to the (bot)net now, if something crashes, all of it might crash. If you are still dependent on the system, youre in big trouble.

>>55187 + "Cloud" surveillance cams don't work + Voice-activated telescreens don't work + e-Government services hosted in Netherlands don't work + Blockchains with your whole life record are not synchronizing + Generally most of always-online soyware is bound to be malfunctioning unless it has a store and upload later function which is most likely does not, not for prolonged outage and data retention periods where it overwrites over old data in order to save minuscule local storage space. In nutshell, it's a bliss. State of true freedom. I'd bet without any "IT expert" expertise, that all satellite up-downlinks still work. Foreign company HQs, embassies, rich people, enthusiasts have reserve Internet channels. If you have a satellite Internet, you will be able to send data out. If you have a satellite TV dish and receiver, you will be able to watch foreign TV channels and receive data downloads from Toosheh/Knapsack For Hope (IIRC their satellite covers part of Kazakhstan, but it's mostly aimed at bumfuck Middle East, e.g. Iran, Afghanistan, North Africa. Outernet is similar, but uses non-standard receiver hardware (which is retarded, a poor country person is more likely to have a TV receiver already than specialized hardware), and I don't remember what part of World they cover right now. >>55189 Foreign corporate overlords to the rescue of the democracy! (most likely ISP admins left a loophole complying to orders formally, when they actually need to block your Internet access after you forgot to pay, all DNS resolution is made locally to access only one payment page and your account balance) >>55191 Any non-LARP anonymous mesh networks won't work without foreign Internet servers since main threat of any anonymity system is the global observer, e.g. it's pointless to make an i2p darknet inside Kazakhstan when all pipes are owned and monitored by the state. In such event a government can shutdown all Internet traffic for civilians within country borders as well. LARP mesh networks you imagined in your head are of little value since they would most likely propagate unsolicited gossip without external third party to verify it with and be quickly poisoned by government infiltrators in the long run (a week or more). Something quick for one-day protests worked in 2014, 2019 HK and 2014 Ukraine as far as I remember. To have functional Internet connection one part of such network should have either a satellite access, or be near border to catch foreign cellular tower signal, or an accomplice on the other side of the border with antennas directed at your direction. Some hobbyists or journalists might have funds to do this, but such connection should be curated only, not exposed as "exit node" for whole network due to bandwidth constraints and threat of being found and shut down. You can collect "juicy beheading videos" from civilians on internal mesh network or via sneakernet informators and upload them for global audience on the Internet through your personal connection for example. This is most likely how those videos we already see were uploaded,a although I'm not entirely sure. Judging by Kazakhstan posters on kohlchan, the outage lasted less than a whole day.

>>55207 >Any non-LARP anonymous mesh networks won't work without foreign Internet servers since main threat of any anonymity system is the global observer, e.g. it's pointless to make an i2p darknet inside Kazakhstan when all pipes are owned and monitored by the state. In such event a government can shutdown all Internet traffic for civilians within country borders as well. You are entirely missing the point.

Something interesting to note in all this is that part of the reason this happened was civil unrest caused by the power getting incredibly expensive and unreliable, due in part to the fact that large bitcoin mining operations were moving there from China.

Does Lainons in this thread have plans in case this happens in your home country?

>>55261 My plan is to just live without the internet while it's down.

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>>55271 same, id have some silence alas

>>55248 a) Is this confirmed or just some dude on twitter said? A foreign infiltrator, an internal power group or the ruling government can flip a few switches and create intentional grid malfunctions then blame completely different party. b) I read they were complaining about petrol prices, this is completely tangent to electric grid use. c) Why aren't people lynching the Chinese mining enterpreneurs then? There is nothing about bitcoin miners using electricity in the petition. d) Soviet electricity generation model creates almost free electricity, most energy generation, especially in winter goes into circulating water heating.

People really should invest in getting to know apps and hardware that work on a mesh/on a lan. Anything built on mDNS/DNS-SD/Zeroconf. Literally anything like that which works. It doesn't matter. Then one dude with a mid-range wifi router, can actually get a city street communicating and sharing info, silently and quickly.

>>55441 This soykaf. https://www.avahi.org/ https://github.com/lathiat/nss-mdns https://wiki.archlinux.org/title/Avahi http://www.haesbaert.org/openmdns/ https://docs.oracle.com/cd/E36784_01/html/E36871/mdnsd-1m.html

>>55187 >Everyone who talks about decentralized chat systems like Jabber, Diaspora, email, activitypub, and distributed chat systems like Briar and Tox, plus wholly anonymized networks to run them on like I2P or Tor, are always right about censorship and the news cycle continually proves this to be a fact. I use encrypted anonymous messaging because it's a feature you fuarrrking dumbass, not some ad-hoc political arguing point.

>>55453 That's very good! I don't understand your anger.

>>55261 I honestly would be fine without it. I have several servers in my house, filled with PDFs; videos; and music, repo mirrors, etc. The only thing I don't have is video game servers/clients... I have been considering setting up a few video game servers and having clients for distribution. I could setup IRC, email, xmpp, etc. pretty quickly. I even have a few raspberry pi's I could use for access points as well as quite a few WiFi adapters.

>>55187 This is why it's worthwhile to be versed in radio for when soykaf hits the fan.

>>55537 yes, while amateur radio is illegal to encrypt over (a) it's still better than nothing especially if you have good steganography (b) if soykaf has really hit the fan, the FCC won't be around to fine you

>>55261 Well, as a lot of people have pointed out, these things work in different ways. If its just a DNS block, the implementer (the gov. prolly) took an solution that hits ~80% of the pop probably, and if you're on this board you should be smart enough to get past it. I don't think I'd even notice. They can of course go arbitrarily harder, and it seems the reasonable preparations you can make only go probably so far. I have some radio equipment, which works decent for moderate range comms (hell of a lot better than shouting at least), fairly limited but enough to contact a number of friends in the area -- that and some of my neighbors are friends. If the gov wants to hard enough, they can just shut everything down to the point where Tor and its ilk don't work, to the point where the only people accessing the worldwide net are using satellite connections or radio across the border. Most of the time they don't care about going this far, and have bigger things to worry about -- turning off the internet is a short term solution to break up internet information sharing networks with mass audiences, and if you depend on it for too long its effect will wear off as networks reorganize -- but it might be sufficent to dampen the momentum for a revolution, or serve some other short term agenda. Pretty hard to fight that, and if they're going that hard you have other things to think about than posting memes on imageboards, and radios should help to talk to friends and help eachother out in town.

>>55193 This is true. A local mesh network project sounds really cool to me but I don't have any friends interested in doing one.