Best Alternatives to Englishnet

I have been thinking about how locked down the English part of the internet is becoming and it makes me think: is the Japanese, Spanish, Russian, or Chinese nets any better? I used to go on Yiluta (fin board) but now it won't translate. Are there any nets or sites that provide a best of the web for non-english sites?

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How much enjoyment can you get out of computer gibberish masquerading as a translation?

>>54986 I have seen the previews. Let me guess, worse than Kiwi farms or Topix?

Okay, can't say anything chinanet or Japanet, but Russianet is up my alley. Simply said, it's a haven for mainly two types of content: >Cracked software By which I mean utility software and high-price programs meant for providing tools to businesses or even just highly demanding individuals. Things like Photoshop and Aida64 are on the lower end of the chain. >DIY instructions A lot of Russians do their sh!t themselves. Wether it be changing their engine oil, doing maintenance on a generator, designing a rain collection system for their house, or even building a whole darn tractor from scratch. And a lot of Russians decide to put that that stuff up on the internet for future reference, like someone once said: 'make cool sh!t and put it on the internet'. Of course, there is the cracked entertainment software and the ubiquitous p0rn, but that's not exclusive to the Russianet. With the coming of Yandex, zen blogs and lifestyle content has grown, but that's pretty much a trash bin and not worth sifting through. I'd recommend learning russian, it can get you extremely far, especially because Russians have that mentality of doing everything themselves, so you can learn a lot from them.

>>54978 >Japanese The Japanese net, once you understand enough to be able to navigate BBS's, Nico Nico Douga, Pixiv, Doujin for very specific fetishes (that would never be translated), is superior to anything I've found on the English net. The amount of dedication these people have, and the quality of their "taste" and style, is unmatched by anyone else. Lainchan is the only English website I go on now, mostly because most of the userbase seems to be European or something (thus not low IQ American pigs). >>55002 >Russians I would recommend learning Russian also, for the reasons that this Lainon gave. Don't learn Chinese or Spanish, there's nothing unique that you're going to find in those places that isn't done 5x better on the Japanet or Russianet.

>>55007 The Chinese I figured would be a crapshoot due to the Great Firewall and Spanish more because I want to learn it anyhow. Overall I want more content like this site as well as different perspectives on current events. Also with how Western society is going might not be a bad idea. I have been using Yandex from finding stuff and it is like how Google was 10-15 years ago, even in English. As for Japanese the layout of Yahoo Japan seemed more functional IMO. I will take a look into these and might use this covid down time to start looking into these languages. Appreciate the responses so far.

>>54991 With Yandex it was not too bad honestly. But now it does not work.

The spanish net is pure cancer. Hispachan is 4chan's even more retarded cousin, and wired7 gets lots of pointless posts in certain boards, and overall retardedness. The whole culture is a waste of time, and I am so glad I don't have to deal with that soykaf anymore. There are a few good youtube channels, like MIGALA and Cordura Artificial, but I don't know many, since I have made an effort to stay as far away as I can. There are some good memes tho, but that is true for every culture. I implore you to not waste your time in the spanish net. If you want to learn spanish, limit yourself to talking to interesting, good people, not the lost souls that wander on most of the spanish net. Learn japanese, those places seem far more interesting from what little I have consumed. I don't know any russian, but darknets are full of harmless, interesting-looking russian sites. You should give it a try as well.

>tfw no hacking/programming sites in lingua latina

>>55026 >I don't know any russian, but darknets are full of harmless, interesting-looking russian sites. You should give it a try as well. Nah, Russians online are literally all pedophiles. Anyway, what's the German net like?

>>54992 Kiwifarms is awesome.

>>55033 You have to go back.

>>55034 not the guy but quality of the site is heavily dependent on the thread (just like this site or any other somewhat popular one). the main issue is that it seems to grow in size cause every time some internet drama happens, kiwifarms is one of the few sites that does not delete content. the threads on the more classical lolcows are quality.

>>55026 seconding that spanish imageboards and internet culture is pretty cancerous, just the worst parts of anglonet. Although hispanic free software/academic communities are super chill compared to anglophone counterparts. However most of them speak fluent English. Spanish is a good language to learn to speak, just because so many people speak it, but I wouldn't bother with Spanish internet culture.

>>55033 >Harassment is awesome.

>>55033 >>55036 Kiwi Farms, all its hate and vitriol drenched in ironic detachment, is everything wrong with the internet. Go back.

>>55037 >>55026 Agree. Spanish is still definitely worth learning, especially for Americans. The USA has more Spanish speakers than Spain, so it makes sense to learn it as a second language. Moreover, said passel of Spanish speakers in the USA makes learning it quite easy compared to other languages due to the number of resources and speakers. Lastly, Spanish/Latin literature and music are excellent and worth consuming. On another note, any tips on learning Russian? I want to reach A2 in Russian as a 2022 goal; wondering if any lainons have any tips. Already know about basic stuff like Anki as I used it to learn Spanish. Thinking of buying "Beginner's Russian with Interactive Online Workbook" by Anna Kudyma--thoughts?

>>55043 >Thinking of buying "Beginner's Russian with Interactive Online Workbook" by Anna Kudyma--thoughts? Don't use this crap. For me, I've found that JLPT vocabulary flashcards, writing JLPT Kanji everyday, passively watching videos/listening to music, and reading everyday while crosschecking a grammar guide/dictionary when things start to make zero sense, has helped me much much more than a textbook could ever. Textbooks are boring (more boring than writing hundreds of Kanji, trust me), and the scripts that you learn can only be used in very specific circumstances. Do you want to learn and memorize thousands of scripts, or would you like to have actual insight into how the language works, and be able to fluidly access grammar/sentence constructions? It just takes longer until you can understand, and can actually talk with others, but it is worth the trouble. I've been around enough of these textbook people, and they really can't understand many basic things, and their sentences are very rigid. >>55038 >>55039 Kiwifarms was interesting to a 14 year old me, and back then the content of the site was also higher. Now that I'm an adult, I don't understand what the appeal of discussing, and dissecting the lives of "weirdo eccentrics" is. Also, the site's quality has heavily degraded, and it's becoming more and more like halfchan by the day. More and more people are posting "flat-speech" (word constructions devoid of any meaning), Twitter reaction gifs, Simpson's reactions gifs, Pepe/Wojak, etc... It's a horrible website, and these people are just a sad as any lolcow.

>>55050 I disagree, I find that learning grammar has helped me a lot in terms of communicating correctly. OFC just doing grammar isn't a good idea, but that wasn't my plan. For Spanish I have been doing Anki, grammar drills, reading, speaking, and listening. These are all important and skipping out on grammar is just going to slow you down.

>>55039 >everything wrong with the internet It shows everything that is wrong with the internet: showing your face, using your real name and whatnot.

>>55050 >much more than a textbook could ever Nice. I'm the opposite, I read a single textbook[or series] and then go read things with a dictionary. Never used anki or any other flashcard software. Just one single textbook[or series]: Genki for Japanese, Penguin Russian for Russian, Wheelock for Latin, Easy French for French, Easy Spanish for Spanish, Mandarin Primer for Mandarin, Esperanto - Using and Learning the Language for Esperanto, Complete Lojban Language for Lojban, Integrated Korean for Korean and now reading Greek, an Intensive Course. Keep in mind that I only cared about reading the target language, not writing or speaking. Since I'll never be able to leave my country(poor person in a third world country), it doesn't matter if I'm unable to speak the target language.

Spaghetti here. I just realized I don't even know if there's a spaghetti net out there. Probably not so much considering the small population of native speakers. The only site in my native language I regularly browse nowadays is Diochan. I spend so much of my online time in the anglo-sphere it's depressing. I am really a slave of the American Imperialism. Sometimes I feel more close to me facts that are happening in North America, thousands of kilometers away from my peninsula, than facts that are happening, idk, in North Africa At least I have a very good knowledge of the idiom of Perfidious Albion now, hopefully it will remain the Lingua Franca of the world for a few more decades. Now I am intrigued in learning Russia but I know is one of the most difficult language to learn and you'll have to learn a new alphabet to begin with. Did some anon in there learned successfully russian? how long did it take? P.S. Languages that use logograph characters in their writing system are fuarrrking stupid P.P.S The phonemic orthography of the English language is more stupid

>>54978 >pic b**mer meme

>>55032 >German net I'm German, my description will of course be very dependant on my personal filter bubble but I guess its better than nothing. There are quite a lot of blogs, many related to technology or net related politics (surveillance, privacy, etc) but most of them represent modern leftist views if this is something you care about. Probably comes from the CCC, a huge German hacker club which is pretty political. As for IBs, there is kohlchan, which is a lot more active than lainchan, it is not for everyone thoigh as it mostly consists of pedos and nazis, the humor is sometimes great however. But I think you would not understand most of it if you had not been speaking German for a long time. Then there's also ernstchan, which is more like lainchan in tone, it's nice for friendly and serious discussion, also for fun of course, but it's quite slow, just a couple ppd. I would not learn this language for the internet if I were you, nothing you can't get elsewhere (even the CCC talks get translated to english most of the time) and I don't think its easy to learn german as a foreigner. >>55037 >academic communities Can you elaborate? t. would love to do my masters in physics in some latin american country because they have beautiful landscapes but don't even speak any spanish yet.

>>55058 >I spend so much of my online time in the anglo-sphere it's depressing. I am really a slave of the American Imperialism. Yeah, this thread made me realize the same thing. That is like kicking dead whales down the beach.

There was a thread about chans a few years ago, and people posted lists upon lists of them. Hispchan or something like that was pretty good, it was basically an all spanish chan. It is all dead now IIRC >>55071 >t. would love to do my masters in physics in some latin american country because they have beautiful landscapes but don't even speak any spanish yet. Du willst einfach die frauen anschauen Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA! Schau mall was es in Argentinen gibt. Sind doch viele Deutchen da.

>>55077 >Hispachan good You, sir, are cancer

>>55071 all I know is that whenever my profs go to events in Mexico or Chile they have a great time.

>>55083 Latin american public universities are dirt cheap and the advanced courses get lots of great teachers. You should give it a try. Research about the top universities in interesting countries.

>>55093 >Latin american public universities are dirt cheap Depends on the country. In Brazil, all public universities(also called federals) are free, but you have to take a national exam(which happens once a year) and get a good grade to get into any of those federal universities.

>>55093 >>55071 I am now interested in latin american universities. I always wanted to be a researcher but I know American academia is a pyramid scheme; maybe I should use my Mexican citizenship for Mexican grad school....

>>55093 I have thought about this but corona fuarrrked this up. Not sure what to take if I did go there. I will probably have 2 degrees soon so maybe something like economics or philosophy. In the US colleges are pretty cheap so I havebeen studying CS.

>>55098 americans on your side of the wall pls

>>55030 Mūtātiō estō quam in mundō vidēre vīs.

>>55038 You call Kiwi Farms harassment? Bitch please. /i/ was harassment. 711chan was harassment. Hell, even early /baph/ had its moments. Kiwi Farms is just ED but without the humor.

>>55032 I can confirm what >>55071 said about germanet, not worth learning the language for. Fortunately, I know russian and English, so i can access a lot of different resources and more worthwhile info.

Portuguese is like kicking dead whales down the beach. Virtually all websites just translate english articles into Portuguese for Brazilians.

>>55026 no love for puertochan? the Boriqua IB? I liked that place, even the schizo who made entire threads about his long lost love with all her pictures. Pretty surreal to be honest

>>55116 I really can't tell if this is a troll or not. The "bitch please" is what makes me uncertain. But I'll bite. Sure, you can list 300 other sites like KF-- but saying it's not bad because another may be worse is retarded. It does not remove the many records of people getting doxxed weekly, or the few but very real suicides attributed to the site. I really couldn't see anyone denying there's any harassment here, but we have one rare specimen right here. Behold. Si magnifique.

>>55026 this. competent users escape it as soon as they get proficient enough with the english language spanish net wasn't this bad 10 years ago. take taringa for example: it wasn't particularly good 10 years ago, but there were real people using it, it had effort-posting, and even it's own small culture; it "felt" real. now it's just bots arguing with borderline illiterates. I don't even know if it still exists >>55383 55ch*n is (or was, when did it die?) orders of magnitude better than hispachan and all the others latin IBs, except BAI, which was good until recently

>>55026 >There are a few good youtube channels, like MIGALA and Cordura Artificial So there are 0 good Hispanic channels. I already knew that.

>>54978 Yes, even japanese youtube, as much of a commercial nightmare as it is, doesn't have all of the news propaganda and recommended content panels

>>55569 Most hispanic people just use facebook and whatsapp. Whatsapp groups and facebook pages are usually just an amalgamation of what /b/ used to be along with a bunch of real time rekt postings and cheese pizza. If all Spanish speaking countries just lost the internet, it would do the world a favor.

>>55578 >>55026 Hispachan is entertaining. It feels like the low-brow parts of 4chan from 10 years ago. It *is* retarded, and that's a good thing. But yeah, not a lot of intellectual discussion going on.

>>55007 >BBS mind sharing BBS addresses?

>>54978 Are there English-speaking communities where not a single angloshart is present? I'm talking about both island and continental varieties of this roach ethnicity. Yes, English is de-facto world's lingua franca and is not going anywhere, yet I'm sick of these degenerates. Everywhere one of these mutts sees an English language discussion, he has to inject his tangential anglopolitik/anglotechnik and promote a opinions based off it. Damn, I envy medieval scholars, they spoke Latin, but never seen a Roman lumpen in their lives. Imagine listening to 80IQ opinion of some pissheaded w*gger just because he speaks this language from birth and happens to understand what you said. At least for any other nation, bilingual skill is a screen for basic intellectual capacity.

>>56081 why not just make a latin imageboard?

>>55553 >taringa Don't even dare mention that piece of soykaf website. It was all """"'tutorials""""" for basic ass soykaf haphazardly put together by 12 year olds which were 98% filler and a link that was broken 60% of the times. Has lainchan seriously degraded to such a level of retardation as to think hispashit and taranga have any value whatsoever. Hell, even sectachon was better than that crap. before it became a name user attentionwhoring party Or is it that the spanish speaking internet is so fuarrrking garbage that these are it's crown achievements?

>>56085 It's not that I hate people in general to torment everyone into speaking Latin, it's that I hate anglo-suxons more.

the english language is becoming a locked down crapshoot of taboos fetishes and conflicting connotations. please do yourself the favor of learning any other language. I like japanese cause it's the most different from english it can give you perspective on what language even is.

Let's all just migrate to the russian internet

If you consider escaping the locked down Anglosphere by migrating to the Russian or Chinese internet, of all places, then I don't know what to tell you. Unless you care about piracy only.

>>56161 to be honest every society has gatekeepers and people with delusions of kingship. if you want to run from the law use tor. if that's not good enough start a commune. if the consequences of nature are too much for you to bear then sit quietly until you die. within this world there's nowhere to run. the holy men have demons too.

>>55385 >another Puerto Rican on Lainchan What the hell, are you on the IRC?

>>57237 Unfortunately no, I'm usually too busy

>>54978 The only interesting language spheres on the web, imo, are English, Chinese, and Russian, and the latter is unfortunately being subsumed into the "Englishnet" with time as more and more Russians become fluent in English. China is economically powerful and independent enough to sustain its language on the internet for years to come, but it's also the hardest to learn. There's also Japanese, but its web presence isn't what it used to be. Gone are the days of creative forms of brewing soykaf and discussion on forums and personal websites - everything is on Twitter and Discord now, the same as everyone else.

I've decided to bring up your thread today.

>>56081 >>56085 >>56104 Don't worry, if I get rich enough (not filthy rich, just enough to be able to dedicate my time to anything other than just feeding myself), I'll make it my life's goal to bring back Latin.

The western globo-empire internet is going to get very restrictive before long. Like people show up to your house and black-bag you restrictive, if you don't show full-throated enough support for the next mind-bendingly stupid thing they need you to support. It will track with imperial collapse directly, so be careful voicing dissent that isn't glaxosmithcline/raytheon/jpmorganchase officially-sanctioned "dissent." Things that people used to get away with just fine will get progressively more dangerous. Probably will come a day soon that you will really not wanna get caught with a VPN. A HAM license would probably be pretty cool. Russian net is fun but they don't like tards

>>55071 >Cringey modern-day Germany I just miss him so much bros

>>55039 >Hatred and chaotic zones of free interaction are what's wrong with the internet Have you considered that people like yourself are what is really wrong

Does anyone have info on the Arabic internet? I think it's a big language. Another big one I just remembered was Malay/Indonesian: SEA servers are filled with them. What's their internet culture like? Does anyone here know?

>>57764 off topic NTA, but commenting on the pic: law of attraction leads to affirmations which leads to sigils which leads to chaos magick which leads to egregores which leads to the conclusion that the most powerful egregore currently in the world is none other than JC.

>>57766 Agree totally The door-to-door people don't seem interested though

>>57759 >Probably will come a day soon that you will really not wanna get caught with a VPN until Bernstein dies, we have some human capital protecting us on that front. >A HAM license would probably be pretty cool. encryption is illegal over HAM, though. great for post-collapse dissent, but not so great for wrongthink while the FCC exists.

>>57768 There are workarounds. Encryption isn't always illegal, but it can't be used to "purposely obfuscate information." It can be used if it's incidental to that, which is pretty broad. New Packet Radio is sometimes an example of this (though it skirts the law quite close, they still haven't been shut down)

>>57765 No, but I'll tell you about something I've noticed that might provide some answers. Basically the later a region or country developed, the less interesting their sphere of the internet is. This is why Japan and Russia have such vibrant internet communities: they developed rapidly and, for the former, maintained steady development, while the latter had very accessible advanced education in the fields of science and engineering to keep pumping new life into the later geeky internet. Compare that to the Spanish internet, which took longer to develop and in which most users are living in poverty, and it's no surprise most activity happens in Facebook communities or Twitter.

>>57778 This is part of why I want to learn other languages if I ever can. Get to escape to more isolated internet communities just hoping they aren't tainted by the soykaf going on in the West online.

>>57778 This makes sense. It is only because there are old users who remember the way things wuz that we have IRC at all, or any of the other little hunks of the internet that typical surfacenet dwellers are simply unaware of. The same would obviously apply to any language.

>>54978 In find it particularly impossible to dig info on any topic that is not present in globalised anglosphere using English language queries. In this regard, English language does not work as lingua franca, to learn specific regional knowledge you still have to visit web resources or dig up books from obscure national library online catalogues in target language. E.g. my interests have put me in front of lots of Japanese, German, Swedish, French, Russian web pages and books. Example: you won't find live knowledge in English language on European-centric housekeeping, e.g. electric wiring and small stuff like this. Every time you make a search query it's either about North America or Britain which have completely different consumer markets and separate standards like sockets and wiring schemes. You won't find info on efficient firewood stoves unless you know Russian (thanks to pirate sites it is now possible to see some old soviet books), all resources in English language on this topic come from Russian migrants in north America who sell installations to rich yuppies for their Montana mcmansions, the list goes on and on. Same for log building and associated carpentry and forestry techniques, most stuff is Russian or Swedish. My first ever interaction with foreign-nets was due to my obsession with pepakura and origami, I used to visit lots of Japanese web in the mid 2000's.

>>57765 Internet is strictly censored in quite a few Arabic speaking countries, no?

>>57778 >Compare that to the Spanish internet, which took longer to develop So are you ignoring that Spain was for decades a fuarrrking Empire strong enough to own most of the whole America continent?

>>55070 >b**mer meme You know b**mers are literally old people, right? Everything past 10 years ago is like pre WW1 to you kids. Accelerate much?

>>56081 Tag urself, i'm the riddler. Also hmu if you look like baby hands mcgee

>>60170 Methinks he means the Spanish-*speaking* Internet, not the Spanish people themselves.

Well it's quite worth it to learn russian for memes. It's autentic. if englishman laughs like: hahaha russianman laughs like: АХАХПЦУКЩЗШТОЁДЙРАЖПХПХЫЫВПЫАААА We like telling stories about soykaf and stuff. Most popular board is 2ch. You may check it out. Be not afraid of cyrillic alphabet, it's cool. We have these letters: ж, й, ч, я, щ, з, ц, ф. Also we have Ы which sound is more like someone beats you in stomach. And who knows maybe you will be first who would understand the secret of russian soul

>>60668 Yeah but Russian grammar is terrible and it's a soykafty half language that uses French as a crutch

>>60677 If French is like wiping your ass with silk Russian is like wiping ass with hand

>>60677 >Russian grammar Not that much > uses French as a crutch not true >>60679 Russian is moree like wiping ass with another french

>>60668 ыыыыыы! >>60677 Nah it's not so bad, it's actually quite regular once you get the hang of hard and soft consonants. I'm enjoying learning russian, I'm shooting for the meeeems!

I know Japanese. Maybe I'm just looking in the wrong places, but the Japanese web doesn't seem that great. It looks like almost everyone just uses Twitter or YouTube or some other English-web garbage, though it seems nikoniko is becoming more popular recently because they're less jewy than Youtube when it comes to paying creators. Japanese text/imageboards are terrible from what I've seen. They're are usually very difficult to navigate, having huge lists of boards that are 99% dead with no organization or indication as to which are active (although if there are vt*ber boards they'll get tons of activity). The post quality isn't that great either in my experience. Occasionally I'll come across an oldschool personal site, but they're prone to link rot and/or so much autism that I can't bring myself to read half of what they post. I remember seeing someone write an actual academic paper on an idolmaster song. One site about actually good webnovels I had bookmarked recently went offline. If any other dekirus have links to actually good Japanese sites, please share them.

>>56088 You're really revealing your age here. Back in 2008 it was a fantastic site full of everything, and had a similar culture to 4chan. The spanish speaking web experience has become super similar to the anglo web in the last 5-8 years: youtubers, twitch streamers, etc are the main sources of content. People use IG + WA to chat (and now telegram). Folks who would've used Taringa / 4chan are all in subreddits. When the anglo web started to crack down on piracy and Megaupload and Rapidshare dissapeared, I used to mostly use Taringa + spanish/portuguese language blogspots to find content. But then the web monetized everything and people began expecting to get paid for sharing content.

Argentinian here, also lived for some years in Spain so I can talk about both online communities: they are pretty soykaf, barely anything interesting going on, even the tech-focused ones are mostly about javascript, webdev, etc. very casual stuff. I'm amalgamating Twitter, forums, boards, etc. here The only thing I can say it's better is that usually we are much more relaxed in terms of "serious topics", you can joke with almost anything: shootings, covid, wars, whatever. Everyone I follow from USA or Europe seem to take things waaay too seriously (except maybe in 4chan or similar places ofc). >>55093 This is true though, come to Argentina, top notch education in public universities, completely free, and if you bring USDs or Euros everything will be dirt cheap for you. Buenos Aires is a great city. Just don't expect to have Macs or even toilet paper in the university, I said the education is good not the infrastructure.

>>55430 5 months late reply but here's a textstorm anyway; You clearly aren't familiar with the userbase of Kiwi Farms or what they actually do. Seems to me you just read headlines and gossip whenever some big drama happens. Back in the days of real trolling, like /b/tards harassing vents, paltalks, irc groups full of teenagers that enjoyed naruto, true capitalist radio, etc, the owner of the site, Null, was one of the many children that enjoyed watching such trolling get archived and reuploaded onto popular internet hubworlds, such as YouTube. Fast forward a few years, Null learns more about the adventures of Christian W. Chan and takes over the CWCki Forums, listens to forum user requests, and not too long after that, the KF is born. Now by this point, the trolling sphere is dead, after many of the anonymous posters participating in the wars against moot and his fagmods got burnt out. By then, internet culture was already in dire straits, with terms such as "edgy manchild sh.itlords" becoming apart of our common online discourse. If you were to click on the front page of KF right now, you'd see that all of the subforums are dedicated to e-celebrities, specifically ones that are very depressing, and thus provide no laughter whatsoever. Digging deeper past those forums, you can start to paint a clearer picture of where Null's site is headed, as older users head for the door, and newer, less-comedic users muddy the site's traditions, more and more each day. There's no doubt in my mind that the Farms will become another Something Awful. Null's already stated multiple times that he hates the site's current userbase, and wants to get back to the simpler times, when Deagle Nation was active. Keep in mind, he's gone into many impulsive tantrums, front-paging his rants about the community, and wanting to pass down the keys to someone else so he can "settle down and have kids in asia" or some bullshit.

>>55058 Russian is actually pretty easy if you know basic grammatical concepts, like inflection. I'm a second year Russian student and I definitely find it easier than something like Latin.

>>60813 >One site about actually good webnovels I had bookmarked recently went offline. Did internet archive manage to archive it before it went?

>>60813 >Japanese text/imageboards are terrible from what I've seen. They're are usually very difficult to navigate, having huge lists of boards that are 99% dead with no organization or indication as to which are active (although if there are vt*ber boards they'll get tons of activity). The post quality isn't that great either in my experience. Not to mention the relentless spam. I remember a few years ago, people would always mention how "Japanese imageboards are like the early 2000s chan community!!!", but if you go on Futaba and look at any boards that aren't the main nijiura boards, you'll see tons of retarded spam memes about some hikkiposter that got dawksd, similar to the wojack soykaf on english boards. >the Japanese web doesn't seem that great. It looks like almost everyone just uses Twitter or YouTube or some other English-web garbage The Japanese web has always been full of self-publishing mangaka/game developers. The fact that they can make a social media account to not only promote their works, but reach people with the same niches with the "related tweets" system, reaching more potential customers than they could with a website that wouldn't be indexed on major search engines due to: hentai, and not only that, but not having to bother learning HTML, is a godsend for them. >Occasionally I'll come across an oldschool personal site, but they're prone to link rot and/or so much autism that I can't bring myself to read half of what they post The Japanese interwebs was already basically a landing site for nerds that were on underground bulletin boards. Most "oldschool personal sites" are just that, spinoffs of pre-existing dial-up boards, and personal sites for creators that sold stuff physically at meet-ups and conventions.

>>60888 Thankfully yes. It looks like the owner went radio silent in mid 2019 and the website expired judging by the squatter look it has now, but who knows. I now keep a "save page now" bookmarklet to archive anything I find interesting so I don't have to hope it happened to be archived by someone else. It's not a complete archive of the site but the pages I was thinking of are archived and linked to from the homepage. The URL was oreno-jinsei.work if anyone is interested. Also of note is megalodon.jp, it's kind of like a Japanese version of the Wayback machine. Not nearly as expansive, but worth checking in cases like this (this one wasn't archived there).

The best of terrible is still terrible. Humanity is garbage.

>>62465 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rQiHzcdUPAU

>>54978 I'm really don't recommend Russian imageboards

>>62465 Works on my machine.

Is the korean net good? I think I might wanna learn the language.

>>60885 I find russian harder. latin has many cognates and loanwords with english, so vocab is easier to pick up. latin also has the orberg books that make picking it up much easier. I havent seen a rus book that uses that method of instruction yet.

>>55071 The best part of kohlchan is the /int/ board.

Arabic internet is trash. Everything is strictly controlled and censored. Dictatorships, monarchies, and the US government work with Facebook and Google to make sure their sites are scrubbed clean of any form of dissent. If your Palestinian, expect your posts to be taken down for antisemtism or some other soykaf, if your Egyptian and you criticize the regime your just as good as dead, if your a Saudi and you say something the royal family doesn't like your going to be charged with "terrorism" and sent to prison. After the invasions of Iraq and Afghanistan, the US military had a program to install tons of spyware cellphones, PCs, and laptops being sold in the Middle East and to this day countries like Israel, Saudi Arabia, and the UAE do the same. Before they killed Khashoggi they installled all kinds of soykaf on his phone and PC to allow the hit squad to track him. Because of all of this, there really isn't a unique internet culture in the Arab world outside the jihadi sites and nowadays most of those are fronts designed to entrap people. Everyone uses Whatsapp, Facebook, Twitter, and Telegram etc. if your young its trendy to just learn English or French and surf the web in those languages rather than Arabic.

I don't speak Japanese so I can't say much about it. China is behind the Great Firewall, so even more locked down. The Spanish part of the Internet is a little too small, but seems nice. Russian Internet is truly glorious, but every day I get more scared that it'll get cut off from the rest of the world. The Russian chans are amazing, and the piracy sites are a treasure trove. bash.im used to be a great collection of stories, but after the war it became a black page with nothing but the phrase "No To War", and now no longer exists at all. :(

>>55007 >BBS's I only know 2chan. Are there others too? 2chan seems really inactive (maybe I'm imagining)

>>62465 Stop the easy low iq "humanity bad" garbage and contribute

>>63704 What is stopping a bunch of fun loving people from around the world to soykafpost their side of the internet for massive laughs?

>>63704 Second this. Unfortunately all our countries are ZOGGED as hell so our options are limited. I live in the states but the average person there posts on FB, whatsapp and any state approved media. Being Palestinian my people don't really have an online liberty to post as they are usually worried about food and work. Anyways I remember being in Palestine like 7 years ago and posting on reddit and twitter and my posts not being visible to some of my friends.

>>63727 2ch.net got taken over by Jim Watkins and is now 5channel. Nishimura's clone 2ch.sc seems pretty dead. If you mean futaba channel (2chan.net) i have no idea really.

>>54978 the polishnet is pretty unclucked but will die soon like all wh*te culture and then the hapanet will be left but you probably cant into either>>54978

>>63881 >die soon like all wh*te culture Survival of the fittest.

>>63881 >the polishnet is pretty unclucked but will die soon You mean kurahen wykop and jebawka? It's all overrun by oskareks. Vichan was back online for a bit and was nice but the admin got bored For tech especially, I use HN or something. Only few of security sites are cool

>>64304 Confession time. I was an active vichan user back in the day. There was a sticky thread on the music board with an instruction image on how to embed video links, I made that one, it was there for a couple of years. More importantly in one random thread I came up with a meme that would became unbelievably popular on the Polish internet. Later on I basically got bored and gave up on Polish internet and general chan culture as well and haven't really kept tabs on it. Ten years pass and I suddenly discover that this joke I made in some silly thread on viszą one evening is still all over the internet, youtubers use it, kids use it, my mother uses it, it's become a part of Polish internet vernacular and then crossed into real life. Even my uncle uses it and it was actually based on him. Crazy. I have never told anyone about this, you're genuinely the first. Anyway, what people don't realize about vichan is that there was like a 200 people there, 400 max. It was a relatively tiny community. And that tiny bunch of neets, actual children, tibia addicts, f23 refuges (by the way, f23 forume was the true ground zero of Polish meme culture, the absurdity and idiotic energy of that place were completely ahead of the curve, there was nothing like that on internet at that time cool czesc rucham psa jak sra biegam nago po lesie i płoszę cietrzewie) and that one guy that was forcing garbage demotywatory to óczucie meme that would later mutate into feels guy aka wojak created all those memes that are still in use 10, almost 15 years later. It's insane. It gets better though. In one thread on vichan about Polish culture and identity and racism and stuff like that this one anon made a very particular and very intelligent argument. A week later this same argument, verbatim made it to the speech of Donald Tusk, then Polish prime minister. Somebody from the government was a lurker or a even a vichan poster. There were some journalists lurking there as well and they got cenzopapa material printed in an actual newspaper (internauci śmiejo się z Papieża Polaka!) I actually bought that newspaper, I still have it somewhere, it was so funny.

>>64304 The best part of Polish internet are unironically youtube instructional videos made by construction workers, builders, handymen and so on. It's the only part of Polish internet that's genuinely better than anything that's available in English.

>not another "japan will save me" thread the best alternative is to quit, make a tea, play a nice album and write stuff down. whatever fits you. internet is dead.

You need a lot of contextual information to make Spanish net work for you imo. There is almost no intelligent discussion to be found in Spanish speaking forums, and every good piece of info you can find, it will be translated from English. The real interesting stuff is on the meme side, but those tend to be very local. Venezuelan memes were at the cutting edge of internet comedy for a while; right now I've seen gringo meme accounts reposting soykaf from two/three years ago. Sadly they've become more and more derivative, tho. Right now I'm more into Chilean political memes, which are being copied by Americans faster than before. I'm also getting into Brazilian stuff, I'm still getting over the language and contextual barrier but seems promising. I moved to western Europe a couple of months ago and it seems boring on the meme front. Maybe I just have lame acquaintances but they just spout old memes and TikTok trends from like 6 months ago. That and everyone loses their soykaf at 8 year-old pop songs like there's nothing more interesting going on right now. Russian net seems like an interesting place, lots of information and different perspective, but I fear it might be on its way to becoming as rancid as Venezuelan net is atm. I just have that feeling about it. Everyone seems to hype up Japanese net but I'm not a sexual deviant or a raging racist and most anime bores me so I'm honestly not interested. All in all, the internet is truly dead. The only way forward is to bring into the real world the culture that developed there.

>>55077 they're trying to recycle themselves and find shelter in other chans while a new hispachan spawns from nowhere. still, the worst part of hispachan is still up. i mean hispasexy, and you might figure out what happens in that place (of course it is NSFW).

>>60882 Hey, it looks like I'm almost 5 months late myself. As someone who literally grew up on sites like SomethingAweful and 4chan and also watched as some of the Chris Chan saga escalated; I'd say I'm at least slightly familiar with the kind of userbase Kiwi Farms consists of. But even with your well-summarized lecture, my point still stands. Kiwi Farms users are pretty dumb.

>>55026 >MIGALA and Cordura Artificial >MIGALA Cordura era bueno antes que empezara a poner memes en sus miniaturas, tiene como 2 años que no lo veo, y de migala solo sus videos, por que cuando no tienen un guion investigado solo dicen cosas sin sentido en sus diectos

>>65109 Le he dado su oportunidad a Cordura varias veces, y cada vez me aburre que no acabo el video. Habla y habla y habla y al final solo repitió y dijo bien poco, y nada realmente nuevo. Es como esta gente que solo repite lo que ya todo el mundo sabe y todo el mundo está pensando sin tener ideas propias. Concuerdo con los directos de Migala, son peores dan una huevaaaaa

>>57765 >Arabic seems like they mostly use Facebook, Twitter and Instagram.