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Suckles/minimal cad and eda software?

Koichiro · 2021-12-15 02:24
Does anyone know of any good suckless/minimal cad and eda software?
Zero Cool · 2021-12-15 03:22
Since UNIX and its supporters still likes to pretend all the world is a cross between a teletype and an emulated glass tty from the eighties, no. There will never be such a suckless tool, because those idiots can barely write an IRC client. Does that image look like its on UNIX sending a character stream, or does it look like a development tool deeply-integrated with its infrastructure? The old design software was usually written in Lisp, so the programmers could focus on the problem, instead of how to pack a structure and save a few milliseconds inbetween core dumps. This doesn't even touch on Free Software. Anyone who wants a Free Software tool for this will likely need to write it himself, or emulate the environment around one written thirty years ago. Just bringing up a blank window under X11 is hell, and idiots are hard-at-work looking to invalidate X11. I mean this: Good luck trying to do anything productive with a computer. Consider using pencil and paper.
Lady 3Jane.. · 2021-12-15 03:30
https://www.kicad.org/ https://www.gnu.org/software/electric/ >suckless suckless a soykaf.
Crazy Jake · 2021-12-15 13:29
>>54621 >wayland doesn't exist
Chani · 2021-12-15 19:42
I've never seen FOSS proper cad software that serious engineers would use. Most are just 3D drawing tools like Blender. That's like making graphs in mspaint. OpenSCAD might work for individual small parts. cad software is complicated and most cad users are not programmers, so don't expect FOSS cad software any time soon.
Chan Siu Ming · 2021-12-16 03:41
>>54631 >I've never seen FOSS proper cad software that serious engineers would use. There is among others CAD program that was developed and used by US military related sector in designing actual tools of war like tanks and that has been released under FLOSS license many years ago. That's just from top of my head. I do not use CAD software so far.
Yuki Nagato · 2022-01-08 16:18
>>54620 Maybe openSCAD format through Emacs >>54621 >what is ReGIS Otherwise you are partially right but ReGIS is supported by xterm and so are sixels
Irvise · 2022-01-09 09:06
Hi, mechanical engineer and libre software aficionado here. I am going to be succinct here. Electronics: - Anything on http://opencircuitdesign.com/ is incredibly powerful and suckless (as in down to the task). - Kicad is also really good. Take a look into the new v6!! - GEDA project. - Lepton-EDA (fork of GEDA) https://github.com/lepton-eda/lepton-eda - And another ton and a half other tools MECHANICAL: There is no such a thing as incredibly powerful and minimalistic mechanical software. The more powerful, the less minimal. - Powerful: FreeCAD (duh) - Powerful: Salome Platform (and Salome Mecha) - Powerful, programatic: OpenSCAD: already mentioned - Powerful, complex: GMSH - 2D CAD: LibreCAD - Minimal, quite nice 2D/3D: SolveSpace http://solvespace.com/index.pl >>54635 - Old, manual, quirky (but cool): BRL-CAD You can find a more complete list under my github repo https://github.com/Irvise/Documents/blob/master/Cheatsheets/Libre/Packages.md#science---engineering (I know Github is not libre and I plan on changing that). I also gave a talk last year at FOSDEM about this very topic (although minus the suckless/minimal part). I would recommend you watch it: https://archive.fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/libre_mech_overview/ Cheers
Just another Random Lainon · 2022-01-09 12:45
>>54620 +1 for KiCad EDA, the only thing it's missing is a builtin autorouter, but they usually suck anyway. For mechanical parts, I have yet to find a usable free one. EAA used to offer solidworks license with their membership, but Dassault ended that promotion.
Elliot Alderson · 2022-01-09 16:22
I think I had better outcomes using Roblox as a CAD than any of free software tools that I tried. Most basic tasks work not as intended and there is no community which has already done half the job for you, so you're left with minimal barebones. Well, you can't spell suckless without suck.
Spike Spiegel · 2022-01-09 22:55
>>55301 Good list. If I want to design some mechanical stuff like gears or some flighstick joystick which of them would you recomend to use for simulating them to make sure in visual way that parts can move when assembled together?
Wintermute · 2022-01-09 22:57
>- Old, manual, quirky (but cool): BRL-CAD well it was good enough to design tanks by military industry xD it can be scripted so you can have proceduraly generated designs.
Leto Atreides I · 2022-01-09 23:13
>>55337 fug, I meant it as reply to >>55321
Six · 2022-01-09 23:14
>>55301 ReGIS presentation
Sipho Nkosi · 2022-01-09 23:18
>>55338 Parametric approach works when you already have computational models for whatever object. Most of the time, this is not how physical objects are designed. Imagine having to write code to "compile" a clay pot instead of putting a slump of wet clay on potter's wheel and shaping it with your hands. This is the main user experience difference between software paradigm used by majority of CAD users and some obscure opensourced piece of code from the 80's. "It was good for the tanks, so it must be good for everything else" is a fallacious argument.
Dr. X · 2022-01-09 23:32
>>55342 Great straw man bro.
Liet Kynes · 2022-01-09 23:38
>>55321 >I also gave a talk last year I remember that. >http://opencircuitdesign.com/ ? 404s on tor
Neuromancer · 2022-01-10 01:37
>>55341 video file was uploaded but is not showing so this is a frame showing gnuplot plot in regis format on dumb terminal
Crazy Jake · 2022-01-10 07:08
>>55349 I got you bro https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dmrmj5y72kg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaeOvxefNkM
Yu-ichi · 2022-01-18 10:49
mlterm supports sixels didn't test reGIS on it urxvt seems to not support sixels "out of the box"
Rick Deckard · 2022-01-20 15:31
>>55823 XTerm (and UXTerm) supports sixels but you need to add to .Xresources: xterm*decTerminalID: vt340