Who Want a "lain.email" Domain Name?

Hi lainons. Does anyone want a "lain.email" domain name? I have this name for years without any uses. Extra points if you'll use this name for actual emails.

>>47965 having a lain mail address would be pretty neat

I host LainPack over at https://www.six10.pw, so it'd be cool to have lainpack@lain.email or six10@lain.email!

>>47965 Sounds like fun, I'd like a lain.email too.

>>47965 Would be neat to have one

>>47965 It would be cool and not cool because you'll might regret it.

>>47979 >It would be cool and not cool because you'll might regret it. I know, it's why I want to transfer the domain name to a project which is interesting to me, so I know it's at least not a waste, and preferably E-mail related. But I also know that hosting a public email service, either by myself or transferring it to someone else, is inherently a somewhat nasty business, I don't want to create a cock.li. So I'm still not sure what to do about it. One idea is running a E-mail server myself, and create accounts per requests from Lainchan on a case-by-case basis. I'm not still I have the energy to manage it, though.

>>47984 An invite-only system would probably be the way to go, lainon. Don't want any nasties using your email service for illicit means.

>>47985 Seconding this. Public signups are just going to lead to complications.

>>47984 What's the nasty part? And what's the matter with cock.li? Inb4 shaming: n00b on the subject matter.

>>47993 if some user is a fuarrrkup cops come to you and you have to deal with that bullshit. Though op could be save from greater trouble. I know here there is a limit, if you run a private email server for your buddies you are exempt from the strict regulations isp email providers have to oblige.

>>47993 >And what's the matter with cock.li? For one, the owner is a twat.

>>48013 Why is the owner a twat? He seems pretty friendly. Couldn't you have offered more insight with that reply?

>>47965 Sounds cool as fuarrrk, I'd like to try it out!

>>48064 >Why is the owner a twat? He seems pretty friendly. Yeah, he's good at "seeming". >Couldn't you have offered more insight with that reply? He's not worth the waste of time.

I dont really use email, but if youre offering for free a novelty email hosting, il bite.

>>48070 Oi, if you're too lazy to write more than 2 sentences, at least provide some kinda clue or infographic, or anything else that is usable to research the topic. Even an archive link, or the name of some board where something relevant can be found. Otherwise, you're not proving a point, you just look like a cunt who doesn't like someone n' just soykafs on him for solely personal reasons. Not cool, chummer

i'll bite, lain.email would be a dream

would grab an account. for not maintaining your own mail server you could ask fedora.email if you can team up with them. maybe the owner is willing to host email for another domain owned by someone else. just saying

>>47968 Off-topic but i just downloaded your Lainless rar file and i wanted to say thanks for hosting this stuff, it's really cool.>>47968

>>47965 Would love to have one! And I think maintaining an invite-only type of mail server would be a neat idea, if it's just advertised here on lainchan I doubt it'd be all too high maintenance, if you're up for that.

>>47965 yeah i'd love a lain.email address

>>48072 They don't like him because he is a right winger or something. He's okay, I just wish he wasn't such a degen.

...so is OP ever going to deliver?

>>48502 i don't think so

>>48502 I was really hoping they would...

I think you can add a domain to Gmail if you don't want to self host

>>48472 second. They want you to hate him without realizing that he's a hardcore free speech advocate, and that carries with it some heavy connotations about censoring the other side, like they want to. really it's a low level emotional brute force attack

>>48592 >I think you can add a domain to Gmail if you don't want to self host I doubt anyone here must explain why this is a bad idea. Besides, hosting services aren't really that expensive (for things such as personal e-mails, I don't know if you would need to pay for a higher tier if you want the server to be able to handle a few mor users)

>>47965 would love a lain.email, sounds cool

of course, who wouldn't want a lain.email?

OP here. I just remembered I posted a thread, so I'm back. On second thought, perhaps it really is a project worth trying. BTW, since I now want to get into OpenBSD (after 10 years on GNU+Linux), so running a server sounds like a fun way to learn more. This is the plan. Basic: SMTP and IMAP running on a VPS. Webmail: not sure, perhaps a Roundcube? Forwarding: Not sure, perhaps I should make it an option. Delivery: server will be SPF, DKIM, DMARC compliant, but if the destination is notoriously uncooperative like Microsoft Outlook. When the server is ready (not yet, save you requests for later), anyone who wants an address can leave a comment here with your personal guarantee that it'll only be used for personal communication only, without engaging in spamming, phishing, trolling, raiding, doxxing, or other forms of harassment. I'll review and create accounts manually.

>>49795 >but if the destination is notoriously uncooperative like Microsoft Outlook. missed a word - it cannotbe delivered.

Yeah! It seems pretty cool, I'd use it for emailing people too

>>48592 protonmail can do that too, no need to use fuarrrking google, the literally admit to reading all your emails

Are there problems avoiding spam filters when you run your own mail server? I think may be a big problem

>>49806 Isn't the only way to get spam to have your email be publicly visible and well known? I really doubt they have bots trying to exhaust every possible domain name so unless you share it on shady sites it shouldn't happen. Besides that you can make blacklist for certain domains and emails which should already help quite a bit.

>>49807 >>49806 I think he was talking about your email being marked as spam by other servers. As somebody who runs a mail server, it can be a problem in the beginning, but when your domain has been around for a while, spam filters will stop catching you. I've had my domain for a little over a half a year now and I haven't been marked as spam in months. It also helps to use TLS and to serve some HTML from the domain as well, be it webmail or just a simple "Hello world!"

>>49812 (me) I do remember hearing something about VPS hosts and the like having something about their IPs that normal users can't get (besides it being static), that basically makes it impossible to get through from a home server. Can't remember what though.

>>49812 >>49813 Exactly. The E-mail servers nowadays use strict IP reputation systems, including community and commercially maintained ones. If you just grab a random static IP from a home ISP, it's likely that the IP (well, the entire netblock) is already blocked due to the spamming activities from viruses. Moreover, home ISPs usually proactively block SMTP ports, unbanning is not even an option. The same situation applies to VPS providers to a lesser extent. Home servers are out of question, but it's usually solvable if you are an VPS consumer. Just file a ticket request and your ports will be unblocked. Then go through the IP reputation databases and request an IP whitelist. Finally setup a server and follow the anti-spam conventions, like reverse DNS, SPF, DKIM, DMARC. Then you should be able to mail others without problems. It sounds tedious but easy for anyone with some sysadmin experience. However... Some E-mail services are known to be especially aggressive, or even unreasonable for blocking small servers and marking mails as spams - even when you've done everything correctly. A notorious offender is Microsoft Outlook. Thus, speaking of mail delivery, the best I can do is making to reachable to 90% of the mail services. >https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=23963872 >Microsoft (Live/Hotmail/Outlook/...) is the single worst offender against small mail servers. I have run a mail server for the last ten years spam-free and vulnerability-free. It has never been on any spam blacklists, delivery to GMail is just fine. I have implemented everything from SPF to DKIM to correct rDNS. >Yet, my IP address predictably ends up on Microsoft's "blacklist" every two months or so because of "spam behaviour or user complaints". I am rather sure that neither is true. Every time I have to fill in their appeal form, get unlocked immediately but have to do the same dance again two months later. >They have every right to reject a mail server but at least they shouldn't lie about the reason. My server's IP address gets blacklisted again and again even during months I don't send any mail to Microsoft addresses.

>>49812 Try sending a mail to a Microsoft address, and see if you get a mailer daemon rejection message immediately. If no, you're lucky. If yes and you've already solved it, I would be glad to learn what magic form did you fill to make Microsoft unblocks your server. To be clear, I'm not really bothered by the Microsoft ban, I run my own server for 5 or 6 years already and I don't mail Microsoft addresses very often. But still, I'd like to find a solution.

>>49850 I have a friend who uses Outlook mail, but I've never had a problem sending messages. I do use a VPS though, so it's probably that.

>>49848 Hate how this is the internet

>>49850 >But still, I'd like to find a solution. Are your outgoing e-mails signed with DKIM? Are your SPF records otherwise well-configured? ("Big Companies" prefer to see more restrictive SPF records, to have a bit more assurance that incoming e-mails are at least authorized by the domain holder) Is your domain on any scummy "blacklists"? Is your network host (public-facing) otherwise reputable?

What happen with this? i would love to have a lain.email domain, the project of create that is still alive?

>>47965 That would be pretty cool!

>>47968 bro I came across your lainpack a while back, I appreciate you hosting the warez

>>49795 I'm interested, a lain.email address would be pretty cool >>47968 downloaded the lainpack and damn, this is really great

>>47965 Oh, that would be pretty neat.

>>48592 OK Sundar, you have enough data.

>>47968 I know it is offtopic but you should definitely read Longuenesse's works on Kant, as well as the ones by Waxman. You'll probably enjoy them a lot.

>>48472 >he is a right winger I had no idea he was so based. People concerned with privacy on forums are invariably degenerate left wingers. It always make me want to forgive the stupid domain names he offers for email.

>>53726 >People concerned with privacy on forums are invariably degenerate left wingers I don't know if you've noticed but the establishment has been slightly harder on conservatives than liberals lately.

Sounds cool, I'd use it

How about someone makes it so it will read your email to you aloud if you like and has a 3D environment that works with VR to look through your email and you also can engage in live chess and igo games with contacts.

>53726 Yeah he's openly right-wing leaning. I mean, it wasn't a surprise as he's a post-2010 newfriend of 4chan /g/. Here is a list of things he did/do: -Didn't believe Covid was real/dangerous at first -Use the N word a lot and thinks everyone should be able to use it (he's a total free speech advocate) -Went to 36C3 conf to troll, got derezzed from the event and went totally retarded about it (claimed he was attacked etc. In reality he trolled and tried to refuse to leave so they had to use force and wait for police as he was totally autistic about it) -He sent 2 CVs to duckduckgo: _One of a white guy with a lot of skills _One of a black girl with less skills ---> He claimed the white guy was refused and the black girl accepted. But if you look closely it's obvious why they choose the black girl: White guy had a lot of skills but soykafty experience, Black girl had less skills her experiences were working at big companies like Instagram, Facebook, Google etc. ===> So he claim DuckDuckGo is anti-white racist for pincking the black girl, pointing about the fact that DuckDuckGo Talent Acquisition Manager is a fat woman (ironic knowing he's also super fat). But he's too retarded to understand why a company would pick someone with experience in big tech companies over a random skilled guy from nowhere. -He accused DuckDuckGo CEO of being a fed because of his previous company he sold more than 15 years ago. -He believe in PizzaGate (lol) -Promoted the DNC leak + he is actually hosting the files and .torrent on his servers I mean, Cockli is good but why would I pick this soykaf over Riseup? (Even if I were also a right-winger) He have less experience in emails. All his domains are edgy and more likely to attrack negative media attention. The only thing good about Cockli is the servers location, but try to remember EU also have intelligence agencies ;) Just use Riseup and PGP, at least they know what they do, they are not edgy kids begging for attention like Vincent Canfield. >53735 >I don't know if you've noticed but the establishment has been slightly harder on conservatives than liberals lately. I don't know if you've noticed, but a lot of conservatives are new internet users (40-50yo, even +60yo) or at least new social medias users. We see them spamming edgy soykaf every day, reposting obvious conspiracy theories (PizzaGate, Adrenochrome, etc) and are most likely to post racist soykaf. No wonder why they get derezzed lol. Last time I reported someone on Twitter for -full on- racism*, the guy got derezzed, created a new account and posted: "Dur dur I got derezzed because of my political views dur dur leftists bad, big tech is antifa dur dur". So... you know... people lie on the Internet when they do stupid soykafs (like video games' cheaters) *(The guy tweeted something using the N word and linking black people to rape or some soykaf. It was funny to reply to his new account with the screenshot of the actual tweet he got derezzed for. He blocked me 10min later lol)

>>54163 So he is really based. Look anon I never knew he did all of those stuff prior to you mentioning it. I don't even know if that's true. But what I do know is he provides a service without any pretense of political bullshittery compared to your riseup provider. I'd rather have a rape.lol email than a riseup email, the latter looks like it's infested with homo transvestitis and the former is just a plain email service with funny and incriminating domain names.

>>54163 >But if you look closely it's obvious why they choose the black girl: White guy had a lot of skills but soykafty experience, Black girl had less skills her experiences were working at big companies like Instagram, Facebook, Google etc. If you also look close you see that black girl had soykafty english grammar and all her answers was about her being black, not about what questions were about. It was obvious it had nothing to do with her experience.

>54167 Vincent is too retarded to understand that companies use bots to review CVs lol. No humans read applications in big companies nowdays. If he's too retarded to understand that... I mean, you do you dude, but Riseup at least knows what they do, they are one of the only group I know that really used a canary to signal a FBI raid while being under gag order. Cockli in the other hand is managed by someone who never touched anything email-related before doing cockli (by his own admission), get unwanted media attention because of edgy domains (not really a good thing when you do anything privacy-related). Riseup never fuarrrked me in +10y of using their services, and even used their canary when it was the time. But again, choose what ever you want. It won't really matter if you use pgp

>>54169 how'd riseup use a canary? never heard of that, i barely spend time listening to the wired >inb4 new user, yes i know

>>54169 >Vincent is too retarded to understand that companies use bots to review CVs lol. So your argument of her experience makes no sense. inb4 "b-but the bot checks if experience is bigger than n for some n in N"

>>49813 What >>49848 said is part of it: almost no e-mail provider will countenance incoming SMTP traffic from residential IPs (except as from their own users who are authenticated), but there's another facet: most residential connections block outbound SMTP traffic anyway since every bооmer who clicks on a chatbot Free iPad Click Here Survey virus ends up sending out so much solar noise (and customers who are running a mail server must take on a $10/mo upcharge for a "Business" plan, anyway, according to their ToS/AUP.) -- speaking from experience as аn American

>>54169 >I mean, you do you dude, but Riseup at least knows what they do, they are one of the only group I know that really used a canary to signal a FBI raid while being under gag order. A little off topic, but speaking of, didn't lainchan have one of those a few years ago?

>>55577 >The administration of lainchan.org has been issued 0 (zero) requests for information by any third party, including but not limited to government agencies. I think it's a joke, nothing for real.

>>54169 >companies use bots to review CVs lol. No humans read applications in big companies nowdays. t. your ass If that were the case almost exclusively Whites and Asians would be hired. There is an entire branch that does this. It is called HR. >>55761 It is not a joke.

if the domain is still available, let me know here and I'll establish contact. I'll make a simple lo-fi server for non-morons with basic spam protection, etc. Donation-based, cause some of you fuarrrkers are too poor lol.

>>55577 >>55761 >>55778 Regarding canary: >>>/q/5133 Polite sage for off topic

what happen the lain.email domain? when do the registration begin?

>>54161 Why is does this seem to be the only suggestion made so far with some detail to it?

>>55795 It sadly looks like lainon disappeared.

>>55795 >>56246 Looks like the domain is gonna expire 24th April this year. If he doesn't renew it, then maybe someone could register it. I would have the skills to setup an email server, I've done it a few times before.

>>56299 Hopefully this doesn't lead to a race to swipe up the domain name and end result is just a mundane email server at best.

>>56303 >Hopefully this doesn't lead to a race to swipe up the domain name and end result is just a mundane email server at best. What else would it have to be? Wasn't making an email server the plan all along?

Maybe instead of a plain email server, a more fun idea could be a shared unix machine that you can also use for running irc clients, automation scripts, static websites and whatever you come ip with. Something like what you see at https://tildeverse.org/

>>56299 It's registered since 2017. I guess lainon will renew it again. But if we are lucky he will remember this thread when he receives the renewal mail and come back.