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Yamaoto Toshi · 2020-11-07 11:49
Do you guys use Reddit? Do discuss its pros and cons. Also, if you have any recommendations for any good mobile clients for Reddit and/or cool subreddits, do share. I'll go first. Visit r/anime_titties (it's not what you think), r/trees and r/marijuanaenthusiasts.
Chani · 2020-11-07 11:59
>>35708
The idea is nice (link aggregation), but they didn't stick to it.
I used to use it, but I find most communities (especially politics, memes and meta-stuff) too annoying. I guess it became too mainstream, AFAIK it is displayed by default on Firefox' new tab page.
At the very best, it still hosts a few niche communties that are worth following for news or articles. I have a multi-reddit (something like old.reddit.com/r/linux+bsd+lisp) in my bookmarks I visit regularly, so that I don't have to create an account to avoid the stuff I dislike.
Crazy Jake · 2020-11-07 12:08
I like redditsice theres always need content and variety. 4chan is usually very repetitive and this place is too inactive
Slide for Reddit, completely open source
TUIR, reddit terminal client (fork of rtv)
r/TwoXChromosomes
r/Menslib
r/AgainstHateSubreddits
Yamaoto Toshi · 2020-11-07 13:43
>>35708
>Do you guys use Reddit?
Yessu yesuu
>discuss its pros and cons
You have to dig for good communities most subs are trash. I like r/Anki, r/learnmath, r/Common_Lisp, r/Piracy among other stuff.
>any good mobile clients
I don't use them, but I have rss feeds of the subs that i'm interested in +modified HTML/CSS
Emmanuel · 2020-11-07 15:00
>>35708
>Do you guys use Reddit?
From time to time, mostly for highly technical info in niche subreddits. I maintain an account mostly to ask questions on programming topics. (Hey, it's either reddit or stackoverflow. I merely dislike reddit. I loathe stackoverflow.)
>Do discuss its pros and cons.
Pros: *for now* no phone# needed for signup (I expect that to change in a year or so though). My home city has a surprisingly active and useful subreddit.
Cons: Default subs are lowest-common-denominator trash. Political subs are micromanaged and/or brigaded to toe the "Wall Street and Silicon Valley uber alles" line ensuring that nothing anti-establishment reaches the front page. Populist subreddits of all schools of political thought are purged of uncooperative mods, or derezzed outright. The admins and C-suite execs are bought and paid for by the military-entertainment-industrial complex.
>good mobile clients
Slide, available on F-droid.
>r/anime_titties
You're a person of intelligence and humour. I like you.
Pulse · 2020-11-07 15:17
>Do you use reddit?
Sadly, yes
>Pros
Activity, much more communities
>Cons
It's reddit
I mostly only browse small subreddits that I won't share for anonymity's sake
Nameless · 2020-11-07 15:30
I discovered and used reddit at around 2010, when there was no moderation or policy or maybe it just felt like nobody cared about it. The tone back then was of rudeness but also creativity and honesty.
reddit nowadays is absolutely censored, moderated and therefore skewed beyond anything I would remotely consider as valuable browsing.
Too many users get passive agressively shadowderezzed for absolutely on topic thread creation or comments.
What is left are "users" repeating the same old one line comments over and over again, driven by the psychological urge to gain virtual acknowledgement through upvotes as easy and fast as possible.
edit: thanks for the gold, kind stranger.
Undisclosed · 2020-11-07 15:36
I only go for r/linux or r/archlinux since sometines they post news for certain software updates I missed or useful guides. Every other subreddit is dog soykaf or absolutely horrorific. I'd use a different site like Lobsters but they seem like a slower HackerNews instead.
>>35711
You can instantly tell what kind of person someone is by the subreddits they browse.
Judge Fang · 2020-11-07 16:28
I only browse certain amount of subreddits with specific topics, otherwise you can find yourself distracted in a long time just doomscrolling. The best part of reddit is the comment sections, everything else is kind of a second choice, it's nice hearing stories and tips about how certain stuff works or what other people opinions are, and because of the comments and peoples opinion, you get powertripping people that think they know all because people keep upvoting them.
The Phantom Phreak · 2020-11-07 16:46
Why would anyone in their right mind have an account on that God forsaken website? The userbase is insufferable and the upvote/downvote/karma system is laughable at best, like what kind of a retard would spend money just so they can give likes (diamonds and what have you) to someone's comment? Not to mention their TOS and privacy policy which was most likely written by some corporate lawyer just so they can sell your data to 3rd party sponsors. If someone happens to link me a reddit thread/post I always use the old.reddit.com because it loads faster. Unironically anyone who's browsing imageboards and has a reddit account should be bullied for doing so, especially on Lainchan. It's like you're willing to sacrifice the convenience of google services because "google bad" but yet you're willing to sacrifice your privacy for le ebin redditor memes and ebin reddit moments, I find it repulsive. There's also the issue of reddit mentality but give that you've made this thread on the /tech/ board it's better not to talk about it here. Picture somewhat related.
Just another Random Lainon · 2020-11-07 17:28
>>35730
This is basically the drug argument. I am angry tards dont use it right, drugs bad mkay. Theres a contingent of users that has subreddits dedicated to their own niche using the site merely as a free hosting platform while also ignoring its main userbase entirely. Private subreddits invite only work extend this further and work exceptionally well albeit at the cost of suffering from minuscule userbases diminishing post frequency.
>>35726
You forgot the marketing/bots. Mods are marketing guys on several big subreddits. Reddit frontpage is just one giant add platform masquerading as user content.
Lady 3Jane.. · 2020-11-07 17:29
the trick to using reddit is to only use specific, small subreddits. All the 'main' ones are trash.
Molly Millions · 2020-11-07 18:17
Reddit started bullying me with the feeds it gave me because i'm not a normal person I am angry
So I left my reddit account behind.
Frank Garza · 2020-11-07 19:23
>>35731
>Theres a contingent of users that has subreddits dedicated to their own niche using the site merely as a free hosting platform while also ignoring its main userbase entirely. Private subreddits invite only work extend this further and work exceptionally well albeit at the cost of suffering from minuscule userbases diminishing post frequency.
Even if you ignore the retarded userbase, reddit is still going to sell your data to 3rd party websites which can be avoided if you don't create an account. I don't see why you'd use reddit in first place for niche subjects when there's IRC and imageboards.
Fred Nurk · 2020-11-07 19:28
>>35708
I gave Reddit a try, partly because of an old Twitter friend and largely because of no enail required. I ended up getting derezzed, and/or intimudated at times...
There used to be a Reddit replacement called Voat but the server was really really slow when it first came out. I think they upgraded but the communities are way smaller. Many derezzed users go there but it is still smaller.
Reddit links come up in search results often enough to be an annoyance. Many tech topics are in /r/programming but they largely overlap HN and Lobsters. All subreddits have distasteful political leanings, even /r/DailyProgramming started having programming challenges with scenarios that touch on issues in subtle ways. :/
Another phenomon is that every once in awhile someone says they are going to jail soon. It gets people discussing how to find a job when they get out or jow to learn tech while in there... While I'm sure this happens at times you start to suspect these posts are planted for the sake of discussion + degeneration. :/
Reddit is prone to having obscene user names floating around, all the good names are taken but folks come up with vulgar names sometimes. Code camps are sh!lled as if a real topic all the time.
Most medium to large cities have a subreddit but it's always liberals and a specific kinds of liberals running it. There may well be local issues but they are all the same. :/
That Twitter friend has transformed into a feminist-loving / socialism-loving degenerate over time BTW.
Liet Kynes · 2020-11-07 20:31
>>35737
plebit is normalized. You can use it for crap that is linked to your real persona without harming your reputation unlike imageboards. The data selling is true but also present in other alternatives that can be used in public which kills it as a decision point.
Bob Arctor · 2020-11-07 21:18
>>35737
In my view, there are people out there who like what I like but are also fairly normal and so you'll find them on more public parts of the internet such as reddit or YouTube.
Donna Hawthorne · 2020-11-07 21:30
I personally never got into reddit because it's boring as hell to me. The constant bashing of it on other sites is hilarious because I can't imagine why anyone would get so upset it. The only real complaint I have is that it pulled energy away from more interesting sites that grew quieter and quieter over the years.
>>35738
4chan might be more your speed. Have you heard of it?
Ivan Petrov · 2020-11-07 21:56
>>35751
Facebook did that, by the time reddit came along into mainstream facebook had already destroyed pretty much every small community. Now all those communities on facebook are probably dead. "They trust me, dumb fuarrrks"
藤原純一 · 2020-11-07 22:44
I don't have an account anymore. Like everyone has said, there's some good small & specialized subreddits that aren't part of the horrendous frontpage culture - unfortunately, most of the ones I enjoyed got derezzed a long time ago. Now it's mostly just Linux subs that I visit once a week for news.
Ender · 2020-11-07 23:11
>>35751
Raids, reddit has a very distinct culture and they frequently swarm other places creating the exact same problem as irl tourists smearing their soykaf over popular places. They are even worse because tourism brings in good money. Reddit just soykafs the bed.
William Holtzer · 2020-11-07 23:35
>>35738
Voats problem isn't that its quiet, its that its full of the kind of idiotic far right extremists that got derezzed from other sites. So all of the discussion is either an edgefest or people whining about everyone else being a degenerate for not believing that jewish people control everything and want to wipe out white people.
Reddit is soykaf but the alternatives tend to be worse because they are only flocked to now because of opinions to extreme for anywhere else rather than because people actually want to migrate somewhere with better community management.
Rick Deckard · 2020-11-07 23:39
>>35757
Every site with more people than another seems to carry out raids these days. Twitter raids reddit, reddit raids 4chan, 4chan raids facebook groups, facebook groups raid 8kun, 8kun raids lainchan and the circle continues forever.
The increasing obsession with politics that the internet has has permanently ruined every single site and blaming one site for it is retarded.
Crazy Jake · 2020-11-08 00:39
>>35761
I don't think that necessarily contradicts the point you're responding to. You're both right. Tourists from one social group invading another smaller group often causes problems, but this isn't just a reddit thing. (Worth noting that it doesn't always. I've been in a few subcultures that have actually benefitted from being in the reddit zeitgeist for a bit. Influx of new people was annoying for a time but then the tourists left and the people that remained assimilated. It can happen. Just usually works better on hobby forums with a specific well defined purpose.) I think reddit gets most of the hate from us because it's the only major social media site with a culture that's even remotely similar to ours, leaving out other IBs. Can you imagine how much worse it would be if some youtuber made a video on lainchan, or we became a meme on tiktok or instagram? We don't care as much about those sites because that doesn't happen, so we don't have to deal with them.
The one thing I do disagree with you on is the bit about politics. I don't think that's the primary driver of what we're discussing. However, politicization has caused a deeper divide between various online cliques, particularly along the lines of different websites. This, combined with increased political polarization, has made integrating migrants and tourists more difficult.
>>35759
This kind of thing is endlessly frustrating. It's difficult to be a left wing free speech absolutist. I am perfectly capable of reading right wing ideas without magically getting brainwashed by them, and I think the notion that these ideas have to be hidden away and "deplatformed" to protect the ignorant masses is appalling. If people can't be trusted to think for themselves then frankly we shouldn't let them vote in the first place. The problem is that free speech absolutist spaces are the only places these ideas are tolerated so they're saturated with them. Even that isn't necessarily a problem. I'm used to being in the minority in my beliefs. However, places like 8kun are so thoroughly saturated that they become dogmatic and censorous in a cultural way, even as they resist more formal types of censorship. These "free speech" forums were never like this before mainstream social media started their purges. We absorb their runoff and then get demonized for what it turns us into, so we have to resort to censorship for self preservation. It's just a sad state of affairs.
Rick Deckard · 2020-11-08 01:02
>>35708
I used to, up until around a month ago. I joined the site around 2016, my memory is that it was pretty decent around that time, if you ignored the political subs. My perspective slowly changed though. I feel like the site's userbase became a lot younger. It was a pretty notable change, and I just ended up enjoying the site less and less, more browsing it out of habit/boredom. The main breaking point was my "escape" from the metaphorical matrix, when I began to use linux, and also when I began to care more about privacy. I had already disliked reddits moderation bias, but really I was in the end just tired of wasting my time on the site.
Jim Hilger · 2020-11-08 01:22
the best way to use reddit is to cleanse your account and all cookies and start over every month or two. This way you spend less time narcissistically feeling so great because you have 10k karma or some bullshit.
I only post in one subreddit and browse a few others from time to time. r/polandball is probably the biggest sub that I actually enjoy reading.
>>35765
>These "free speech" forums were never like this before mainstream social media started their purges. We absorb their runoff and then get demonized for what it turns us into, so we have to resort to censorship for self preservation. It's just a sad state of affairs.
for the most part this is true... but also remember that a lot of the unironic chan nazi memes are due to stormfront.
It's far too easy for internet communities to get politicized. Part of the main reason I keep coming back to lainchan is that it resists politicization even in the face of constant raids, instead we have a few regulars who I think are numb nuts and have fun arguing with but not a constant stream of retardation like reddit or 4chins, and the real reason we're all here is that we love lain.
Bobby Newmark · 2020-11-08 14:57
>>35738
>That Twitter friend has transformed into a feminist-loving / socialism-loving degenerate over time BTW.
You know where you are kiddo? Look at the boards list, there's a fuarrrking drug boards, I think we are all degenerates here
Fred Nurk · 2020-11-08 15:06
>>35811
Not the person you're replying to but speak for yourself. Even if we indulge in degenerate behavior we're not THAT bad.
H.R. Giger · 2020-11-08 15:10
>>35812
lol i know that we could be MUCH worse, but this is not the place to be like tradcath or something like that
Ein · 2020-11-08 16:38
>>35710
I don't think it is displayed in Firefox new tab page. I also created a few multireddits to aggregate stuff on desktop Reddit. RES extension really makes browsing Reddit a breeze.
Case · 2020-11-08 16:39
>>35711
I have used Slide and it is very good. I also recommend to give RedReader a try; it's also open source.
Faye Valentine · 2020-11-08 16:44
>>35722
Yes default subs can suck sometimes. Political subs are the worst since politics is inherently divisive and it's impossible to maintain a neutral stance. Then there comes the abuse of moderator powers and the list goes on.
I hopped onto r/anime_titties because r/worldnews focussed on US news a little too much and secondly, the mods there removed content they hated(censorship in general).
Aristóteles Amadópulus · 2020-11-08 16:45
>>35726
Lol, that last line rings so true.
Tank · 2020-11-08 16:47
>>35730
I agree with the old.reddit thing. The new UI absolutely is like kicking dead whales down the beach. And BTW, Reddit isn't the worst when it comes to terms and conditions. Lots of social networking sites have worse rules,lesser anonymity and a greater user base.
Arisu Mizuki · 2020-11-08 16:49
>>35737
IRC is slowly losing users. Snoonet and Freenode are the only big ones standing.Most other servers have much fewer users. In either case, do recommend some good IRC channels and/or imageboards.
Jet Black · 2020-11-08 16:50
>>35738
Voat still exists but has a heavy right wing bias.
Void · 2020-11-08 16:50
>>35751
I have given 4chan a try. Its good but they have derezzed the entire IP range for many countries.
Zero Cool · 2020-11-08 16:51
>>35757
Lol, reminds me of the Reddit hug of death.
Technician · 2020-11-08 16:52
>>35765
I agree. Other stuff like Facebook, Instagram or TikTok is much worse than Reddit when it comes to privacy or data sharing issues.
Apoc · 2020-11-08 16:54
>>35768
Moderation is a real issue. There have been cases of entire subreddits closing because of an annoyed mod. Worse is when they take over a significant sub and mould it according to their world view. For eg, r/india used to be neutral back in the day but now it is more anti India than any other subreddit ironically.
Unnamed · 2020-11-08 16:55
>>35770
PolandBall has some brilliant stuff. Great reminder since its been some time since I visited that sub.
Anamika · 2020-11-10 09:02
It was good a few years back ngl, but it's filled with propaganda now
Rick Deckard · 2020-11-10 12:47
>>35823
>do recommend some good IRC channels and/or imageboards.
I wish I knew about good IRC channels. I do know about other imageboards, but I'd rather not tell about them here. Just look around.
Lady Jessica · 2020-11-10 14:10
>>35823
>Snoonet and Freenode are the only big ones standing.
>Snoonet
>big
IRCNet and Undernet each have 5x more online users right now, EFnet and Rizon - 3 times. Even OFTC has 2x more online users right now.
Freenode is indeed by far the biggest network, though.
Eldon Tyrell · 2020-11-10 14:35
>>35708
Reddit is becoming increasingly problematic. I like that Reddit has subreddit and search based RSS, and I have subscriptions to highly specific searches on reddit. I recommend everyone do this for their hometown etc, to keep situational awareness.
Reddits UI is super bloated, and consistently consume all the memory in the VMs I run it in.
Its clearly an improvement on various other networks:
>Open Data - You can view all users posts, etc.
>Supports RSS on a pretty granular level
>Tree View on Comments - helps make larger threads actually readable.
<Bloated UI
<Muh Corp
<Centralized.
Morpheus · 2020-11-10 20:08
>>35730
>Why would anyone in their right mind have an account
Because sometimes there are technical resources that are only available on reddit. Usually these are old threads and you don't need an account but some times I've had very niche questions to ask and reddit was the best place to get answers.
Reddit is also a great place to troll and be a dick. It's easy to create accounts and they can't enforce site wide bans on any anyone half technically inclined.
Whenever I'm having a bad day and need to let off a little steam it takes minutes to find some lying douche who is probably paid to post there and make his day a living hell. Reddit never fails to deliver when I'm looking for someone who has it coming.
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2020-11-10 23:59
>reddit thread
Ishikura "Tatsu" Tatsuhiko · 2020-11-11 01:33
I still browse Reddit, but only subs related to specific things relating to technology, privacy, and security. I still prefer lainchan for discussion on technical subjects, I avoid voat, etc because it is overwhelmingly right wing news which I don't care about. I only care about technical things. I thought Gab was an interesting idea but again, it's overwhelmingly right wing news. FYI, I'm not against different view points at all.
Turner · 2020-11-11 01:35
>>36034
U
Turner · 2020-11-11 03:09
>>35708
I've stopped using reddit at all unless im doing search on a specific subject, seemingly random discussions on comment sections are sometime the best way of finding specific niche things when 4chan archives doesn't work or just simply doesn't do the job