Keyboards anyone?

What kind of keyboard do you use Lain? What kind of keyboard is it (membrane, mechanical) (switches) Pros v Cons (features etc) Would you buy it again and why? I'll start. I've got a Razer Blackwidow Chroma. (pic related) It's a mechanical and I really like the green switches, they have a nice tactile feel however are really loud. (I'm fine with that though.) I really love the USB, Headphone and Mic ports on the right hand side of it. You can wrap up your mouse cable and plug it right into the keyboard and route your headphones through it aswell. Overall I really love the build quality (not sure about Razer's newer hardware though) and software side everything just works. For negatives, the lights for numlock, capslock and scrolllock are all really dim and small, hard to see in bright light, that and there isn't really a wrist rest. I'm not sure if I'd buy it again, I might look at something more ergonomic, something with a wrist rest, though I'd have to do quite a bit of research for something of similar build quality.

I have a Ganss GS87. It's a clone of a Filco Majestouch 2 TKL. I've had it for a while now and the only thing that's worse about it is the plastic housing is a bitch to disassemble. For anyone looking to buy a first decent mechanical keyboard, I highly recommend buying a lightly used keyboard at a steep discount. I've also got a broken model M that I need to recable and an AJAZZ AK33 that just doesn't feel good to type on.

Durgod K310 Tenkeyless Blue switch It's pretty good except for space bar jamming sometimes during gaming. It's a rare issue that hasn't happened ever since I flipped my space bar though. I think if I could go back in time knowing what I know now, I would get a 65% keyboard with brown switches. Maybe with hot swappable switches if possible. Either gatreon switches or kalihs rather than cherry.

Had this and loved it for years, it's a membrane keyboard with a resistive multitouch board beneath everything that allows it to register a gigantic number of key inputs at once. It has some useful media keys and 3 levels of key backlight that I toggle regularly. It's also got a few programmable macro keys that only appear to work on Windows but I never cared about that stuff even back when I used Windows. I would absolutely buy it over and over again but it's sadly not manufactured anymore, and I'm really scared about what I'm going to replace it with when the time finally comes. There aren't really many (any?) non-mechanical keyboards out there with its unique emphasis on eliminating key input masking these days, and even many mechanical keyboards don't go to its extremes either. Why this is important to me is because I use my keyboard for hardcore fighting games and need to be able to press a huge number of inputs at once sometimes. I'm apprehensive enough that I've been seriously contemplating a project to use a high resolution scanner on its membrane, make a 3D printed injection mold out of that, and be able to continually replace the silicone membrane with my own infinitely into the future. Figuring out what kind of silicone formula membranes usually use to get just the right resistance and springback is my current stumbling block. I've been considering mechanical replacements but it's really difficult looking for something with similar tactile feedback (need something good for button mashing) and key profile. I've thought maybe half-profile brown switches might be what I'm looking for but hardly any keyboards with those even exist.

>What keyboard? IBM Model M >Kind of keyboard It's complicated. It is mechanical but uses membranes. >Pros Nice feel Clicky Makes you look interesting >Cons Clicky

LEDs are cancer. even on the ones with numlock/capslock i usually have to put tape to tone down the brightness noises are cancer for autists keyboards that you can click twice with a single click sound are uber cancer aside from that, yes, get a good """mechanical""" keyboard

>>32938 Man, does this post ever look like it was written as an advertisement. >Stock picture >Asks for interaction to look like a regular user/mine some data from the replies >Stresses how the build quality and the software, two widely reported issues with this product, are supposedly good. What lainon would even consider installing razor's spyware? No true Scotsman aside, it wouldn't even run on most lainons' *NIX systems >Mentions some minor "issues" the target demographic for the product won't even care about, so as to look like a genuine opinion >Stresses the build quality yet again

Custom WASD keyboard with DVORAK keycaps & blue switches with o-rings. Very cozy, hardwired DVORAK so no messing with layouts, and works with PS/2. Between this and my keyboard with red switches, I prefer blues.

>>32952 Do you use those new ones or a classic one?

Custom pcb mechanical split keyboard with marshmallow switches (linears) but I am using my lily58 with h1's (also linear) atm due to moving around. I use splits as I have many wrist issues and don't want to destroy my body. Takes only a week or two once you change over to regain similar typing speed but it can be hard if you don't learn layers fast enough. I do have issues if working with specific software that needs nav cluster and numpad a lot but I just end up using a numpad to the side for those once in a while moments. I use a 40% with ergo clears for travel as I like small as fuarrrk keyboards. The build quality is all on my effort so take that as you will and I am in the custom scene. In the end I just like having splits because they are relaxing and give you lots of space on tables to put plants and stuff on it. I don't like spending too much money so I just end up making 90% of things myself so I'm not sunk crazy into the hobby like some. You really just need a basic keyboard in the end that you are comfortable with. That said I hate full sized keyboards and soykaf by major companies due to their lack of build quality and gamer aesthetic.

>>32970 Nice split. I built an split keyboard a couple years ago. It was my first soldering project. Ofc I messed it up by soldering the keys directly onto the board without putting the mounting plate on first. Its still sitting in my attic somewhere. Maybe I'll try again in a few years, but typing on my thinkpads is comfy enough for now.

>>32955 eh. didn't know what else to put for an image, so I tried to find a stock one of mine with a quick image search

>>32952 Does it work with linux?

>What kind of keyboard do you use Lain? Cherry G80-11900 >What kind of keyboard is it (membrane, mechanical) (switches) Mechanical Cherry MX Blacks (some people refer them as vintage blacks which sounds cooler) >Pros v Cons (features etc) Pros: I adore the sound this keyboard makes it has like a hollow bassy sound? if that makes any sense. I dig the weird look of it and the trackpad is a plus but not the main reason I got it. Pro/con: depending on person, the layout. I got use to it instantly no learning curve but, I could see why people would struggle a bit. Cons: The build quality. My only complaint is the keyboard isn't as sturdy and heavy as i'd like it to be but that's not a huge problem to me and I suppose I wish the caps were better quality (the font is way to light). I would replace them but the keys are in odd proportions. If any knows of some sets that'd work let me know. >Would you buy it again and why? Most likely no. As much as I love the keyboard I won't ever rebuy a keyboard. A new look a new adventure.

>>32969 Classic one. Made in 1996. Blue badge

>>32974 Why wouldn't it? It uses PS/2, which can be converted to USB. Works flawlessly

I've never had or used a mechanical keyboard but I prefer the tactile feel I get from generic laptop keyboard scissor switch which apparently appears a lot on bluetooth keyboards but never on wired keyboards, and if they do they cost as much as a mechanical keyboard. Coding feels much better with laptop keys. I also prefer the delete key not anywhere near the Return key, that is pure soykaf. My problem is that most of the wireless keyboards are literal soykaf having either bluetooth only (lag, had to charge every month) or bt+wifi HID at the same time which means even with a secure bluetooth connection, your keystrokes are broadcast on a unsecure wifi network that can get pwned by WHID tools. I bet these keyboards have some sort of NUHF or similar problem that they implement. It's sad that wireless keyboard designs look good, have multimedia keys, have scissor switch, have delete key at a different position, compact design, and even a volume knob. The other problem is mechanical keyboards try to imitate the angled typewriters, pic related and this elevation is the root cause of RSI/CTS. I don't like elevation, even the lights make no sense as I don't even look at my keyboard. The thing I hate the most is when I'm not pressing a key, and I try to wiggle the keys and they move, they feel flimsy. Laptops don't have this problem. Most non-scissor switch wired rubber dome keyboards have this problem that you can pick up the keyboard and jiggle it left to right and hear all the keys flimsiness. I don't know about mechanical but I don't like noise, elevation, and I prefer a chocolate style keys flat on the surface and none of those concave keys that only impedes finger sliding. I prefer a full return key, delete key not near the return key but these seems to not exist or either it's got a wifi/bt-hid problem. In conclusion, I'm not falling for mechanical consumerist meme as I could buy an even more sophisticated electronics such as a 2TiB at the same price or even a thinstation and currently use a $3 rubber dome that looks like a laptop keyboard, delete and return keys aren't close, and have multimedia keys.

FILCO Majestouch Stingray with low profile Cherry MX red. Mechanical keyboard with Japanese 91-key layout. Feels very durable, the keys are not clicky and register with low pressure. They make a nice (and a bit loud) sound. The multimedia keys have an odd order (volume plus, volume minus, mute) so I always get confused when changing volume, but everything else is good. I love the professional look on it.

>>32993 For some reason I really love the look of Filco keyboards. Something about the completely plain case other than a badge and the nice Futura legends on the keycaps. It just draws your eyes seemingly without doing anything at all.

dactyl manuform

>>32999

>>32990 You should try topre. Its basically if rubber domes were refined with its nice tactility. Bluetooth hhkb exists if you are into the hhkb layout.

>>32938 I'm currently using an Anne Pro 2. It's pretty nice, the red switches as too loud sometimes, but it's not that bad. I had to change the firmware though, because I use a Scandinavian layout on an American keyboard, so I remapped "<" and ">" to tapping ctrl, as there were no maps for those.

I have a KBParadise v60, it's alright, but the keycaps are showing wear after 3 years. Kinda miss the f keys, but the compact size is nice.

>>33015 Also I remapped caps lock to fn, much easier to use

>>33000 How long till they make a keyboard that you fit onto your dick like a condom? You fondle the balls for the trackpad and type like you're playing Irish folk songs on a flute.

can you suggest me a keyboard for long hours coding on amazon.it? thanks

>>33018 That fuarrrking mental image.

>>33537 > pic related

>>33018 humanity is not ready for such advanced technology

Ultimate hacking keyboard. - made not really by a company but by that dude in Hungary and his friends who are hell-bent on making the best keyboard for themselves and people like them - coiled cable which you can replace or boil to straighten, I now have my mouse mat between two halves of the keyboard and sit with my arms spread - whatever cherry-like mechanical switches, I prefer silent tactile types. I don't like clicky ones (too noisy, I distract myself) and would prefer Topre over brown/clear, but it's hard to hack Topre onto it - free software, firmware and hardware (license forces you to use it only with their keyboard, you can't parasitize on it with your keyboard) - upcoming trackball, trackpad modules, make your own modules if you want - a lot of threaded holes so you can mount it wherever you want. I plan to mount it on my chair armrests - no LEDs apart from status ones, you have to DIY it - customization is only limited by your determination, treat it as a separate computer and do whatever you want - only the members of the technological elite can afford it (275$ without palm rests), but if you're already living in the cyberpunk, the design is open and you can make PCBs on your laser printer, carve the case out of wood and use recycled electronics

>>33566 >(license forces you to use it only with their keyboard, you can't parasitize on it with your keyboard) wouldn't this mean that modifying it to better suit your needs is technically illegal? seems cool enough but there are definitely things i'd want to change about it if i were to go through the trouble of building it myself.

>>33567 It states: >The Ultimate Hacking Keyboard firmware can only be used with the Ultimate Hacking Keyboard. >Ultimate Hacking Keyboard is a registered trademark of Ultimate Gadget Laboratories Kft. Which means that you can't make a product named "Ultimate Hacking Keyboard" since it's trademarked and you're not allowed to make a differently-named product based on their software/firmware. So it's not 100% free, you can't use the software commercially, only for yourself. Electronics is licensed under GPL 3, though, so you can build your own keyboards and sell them with your own firmware.

>Tex Shinobi Just got one of these with MX browns. Its my first mechanical keyboard. Even though I'm still getting used to these switches, the keyboard itself is excellent. It came with a few extra keycaps and trackpoints. It also connects via any usb-c cable. This thing is super high quality, very well built. I would even say its on par with IBM thinkpads. Its different but not in a bad way. The only thing to note is that because of the trackpoint and the oddly sized function keys you cant put on any keycaps you want. Idk why anyone would want to do that though, these caps totally fit the aesthetic I like and they are nice to type on.

>>33576 It's good to see keyboards coming out with USB-C. Is it easy to get used to without a numpad? There are no labels on the keycaps??? Are all the extra keycaps macros?

>>33592 You can get different legends on the keycaps. Mine has the ANSI legends. Look on their site to see what they have.

Some random Rosewill keyboard with Brown switches and a blue backlight. Just got the thing because I had never used a mechanical before and wanted to try one. On one hand it's quieter than I thought and the keys are soft, so I can type or play a game for a good while without my fingertips getting sore. But for some reason I make a lot more typos on this one than on other keyboards. No idea why. I think it might have something to do with the keys being sensitive.

>>33566 That license detail is kind of annoying, why not contribute to QMK instead of not helping the ecosystem and being rude about it?

>>32938 >What kind of keyboard do you use Lain? An Anne Pro 2 shoehorned into a Poker 3 case with Poker 3 keycaps >What kind of keyboard is it Mechanical with box white switches >Pros v Cons The box white switches are basically a perfect balance between feel and clickiness, but the click bar system can make slow presses weird because the keypress occurs right before the click bar clicks. The Poker 3's case and keycaps are my favorite, but I got it before cherry clones really took off so there was nothing like a box switch or weird cherry offshoots readily available in retail boards. The swap was messy on my part, so the USB hole isn't perfect. The Anne Pro's bluetooth doesn't work because the thick metal Poker 3 case can't fit the battery. Even if it did, I'm sure the metal case will kill the signal. Key remapping is awesome in the Anne Pro's software. I really loved the Poker 3's media keys being function+WASD, so I remapped them after the swap. >Would you buy it again and why? Poker 3: Yes, if I only wanted Cherry switches. Anne Pro 2: No, I could care less about its main gimmicks (RGB and bluetooth) and only got it because the board swaps into a Poker 3 case easily, you just need to open up the hole for the USB port. I would just build a keyboard now if I had to start from scratch.

OP here I love all the variety of keyboards that I've seen here and I'd like to add a few things: People with ergonomic keyboards (split etc) how easy is it to learn and is it worth learning, any recommendations? Do you prefer a wrist rest, if so, plastic or a softer material? Personally I don't have an external wrist rest, it's sort of a plastic bar that I wouldn't really recommend it's tough on the base of the palms if you lean on the keyboard like I do and it's a bit short (then again, I have really small hands) I did have an older keyboard with a soft wrist-rest which I found was really comfortable but was somewhat high maintenance, needed cleaning around where the vinyl (or similar material) met the plastic. I might also add; any recommendations for a keyboard with smaller travel distance? Something for someone with smaller hands.

>>33875 I would say I got back to around my normal speed within 2 weeks of using the lily58. If you are used to a full sized it will be a bit weird to use layers but its worth the time invested as well as hand health (hate reaching for nav cluster at times on bigger boards). Then again I went from a full sized to a 40% for my first custom keyboard(still don't know if I am happy I did with how hard it was at first. I do enjoy tiny cute boards now). For a ergonomic board I would either recommend something like a atreus as its a nicely ergonomic layout without being split (kinda I guess?) but if you want to just go all out split anything based on the lily58 would do fine like the the sofle or even a iris is good. One other path you can go down is just plain ortholinears as they are quite easy to build and are nice to learn more unique layouts on. +ortho pcbs are cheap af >I might also add; any recommendations for a keyboard with smaller travel distance? Something for someone with smaller hands. When you say smaller travel distance do you mean switches travel distance when pressing down on it or distance reached by your hand like f keys?

>>33875 >any recommendations for a keyboard with smaller travel distance? Anything smaller than a full size, ten-key, or ten-keyless requires less hand movement by stuffing the lesser used keys into function layers. A fully programmable keyboard can be modified using software to completely change how it works. For example, setting the bottom right modifier keys to arrow keys on 60% keyboards. You can go smaller, but 60% at least used to be a fairly standard layout with lots of options available. >Something for someone with smaller hands. Do you mean smaller keys, resulting in a smaller overall keyboard? If so, you can throw every mechanical keyboard out the window. Those are heavily limited by the size of the switch and those having to be snapped into a back plate for stability. You can find keyboards meant for travel that are smaller and use laptop style keys. Maybe even a keyboard meant for tablets could work if you find a way to hook it up to a computer.

>gaming keyboards

I have a corsair strafe with mx brown, no rgb just red. It's a nice size while still being full and the switches feel very nice. Cheap membrane keyboards feel like sponges now. It's easy to take apart and clean. Some cons, it takes 2 usb ports for some reason. The spacebar can stick and the left arrow has broken so it falls off very easily. Overall I like It, but doubt I'd buy again, cause it was just what NCIX had for my budget in 2014.

>>33889 >>33958 Sorry, to clarify: I mean smaller travel distance between keys, my handspan is really short, so I end up really having to reach for my keys. To put this in perspective, the distance between the base of my palm to the tip of my middle finger is 162mm.

>>33576 Any other good clitmouse keyboards out there? I've been having some wrist issues when using a mouse lately and I'd like to have an alternative. I know Unicomp makes one, but the lack of a center button puts me off, and when I try looking it up I can only find the Thinkpad-branded one, but 100 bucks for a non-mechanical keyboard feels like too much money to me.

>>32938 I currently have 2 on my desk, mostly because I am indecisive and like an actual numpad. >Keyboard 1 HHKB Pro Classic. Topre switches. >Pros Best keyswitches I have ever used The specific HHKB layout is very nice and preferable to any other layout I have used (ctrl where capslock is and Backspace where \ is) Small form factor lets me take it places easier. Quiet, especially compared to my other keyboard... >Cons No numpad Having to access keys through function layer (especially home, pgup/pgdown, and arrows) Expensive >Would you buy it again? Without question it is fabulous. >Keyboard 2 Unicomp Model M Classic. Buckling Spring. >Pros Really good keyswitches Familiar layout Very durable and substantial >Cons Buckling springs aren't perfect for me, I would appreciate less actuation force fuarrrkhuge Noisy as all fuarrrk Unicomp is kinda pricy, I do have old Model Ms I have gotten for free though. >Would you but it again? Kinda, I would probably get the Ultra Classic instead of the full size classic Model M form factor. Hard to tell.

I have a wasd code keyboard with mx blue switches. I also have an IBM model M and a custom 60% keyboard I made with white alps switches.

>What kind of keyboard do you use Lain? Vortex Race 3, non-backlit version. >What kind of keyboard is it? Mechanical switches, cherry mx red. >Pros Cable detatchable at keyboard end. Sturdy metal construction for the body. No visible branding. Only included on the bottom where there is a small laser engraved metal plaque with "Vortex", their logo, serial number and model number. Includes RGBY colored keycaps for modifiers, arrow keys, delete and escape. Also includes mac keys. I don't use a mac so instead I used the command key to replace the windows key. Large legends with a clear font, centered on the key face. Onboard macro programming with multiple layers. A bit complicated at first (MUST read the manual), but is OS agnostic and no soykafty extra program needed. Uses a small LED under spacebar to show which layer is active. Some other function key options: media keys, colemak and dvorak layout, win key lock, OS mode switch >Cons Escape and delete keys are non-standard 1.5 units, so if you want to change the keycaps beware. Caps lock light under the caps lock key cannot shine through the opaque keycap. A bit ugly, but still easily visible. Extra feet (included in the box) must be screwed on and have adhesive rubber feet. Removing them frequently is not practical Cable is micro-usb, I would have preferred usb-c. Price (130USD) >Would you buy it again and why? I wanted a keyboard that doesn't stand out in a professional setting, I got it. I wanted a quality keyboard (branded switches, PBT keycaps, metal construction, etc), I got it. I wanted a more compact keyboard than TKL but still has all the important keys, I got it. Yes, I would buy it again.

>>32938 >What kind of keyboard do you use Lain? EagleTec ET-KG060-BR. It's mechanical with Kalih Brown. >Pros Extremely cheap ($30, about as much as any membrane keyboard) >Cons Backlight broke after a few weeks, has an extremely cringey "gamer" look. >Would you buy it again and why? Probably, even though the backlight doesn't work anymore the keyboard itself still works completely fine. Being cheap is a plus. (for those lains that are interested I don't think it's sold anymore)