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Thread to defend stallman from the internet mob. Previous: >>20141 Know what happened: https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ Seed the ZeroNet mirror, the pestilent witch is trying to take us down: http://127.0.0.1:43110/1ArYmjJhnn2Ltf58MgBqqfnH6VSetD6kvS Sign the petition: http://chng.it/GGPxTnfNz6 Quick rundown: The public discussion against Stallman started on September 12 with a post on Medium.com by MIT graduate Selam G. about Stallman's opinions in a private mailing list of MIT's CSAIL. Her post was followed by an article on Vice.com by Edward Ongweso Jr. and then followed by several other articles and public statements, e.g. by The Daily Beast, GNOME Foundation, Software Freedom Conservancy. SPECIFICALLY, THEY HAVE WRITTEN THAT STALLMAN >(1) Defended Jeffrey Epstein (while in reality Stallman was defending Marvin Minsky); >(2) Described Epstein's victims as entirely willing (while in reality Stallman was arguing that one specific victim of Epstein, Virginia Giuffre, was PRESENTED to Minsky as entirely willing because she was coerced by Epstein, not that she WAS entirely willing); >(3) Defended pedophilia (while in reality Stallman was arguing that age doesn't matter in a case of rape because rape is always a terrible act no matter the age of the victim); >(4) Defended pedophilia in the past (while in reality Stallman already countered his controversial claim from 2006 -in which he expressed skepticism in case of consensual sex- with a comment in 2013, where he said that children can't really be consensual); >(5) Condoned sexual assault (while in reality Stallman was arguing that the term "sexual assault" does not fit the description of Minsky's act towards Virginia Giuffre since she wasn't assaulted by Minsky but coerced by Epstein; Stallman also added that the term is generally too vague as it refers to bad acts that can range from harmful to very harmful, and that the term usually makes readers think of the worst case); >(6) Implied that the victim wasn't harmed (while in reality Stallman explicitly claimed that she was harmed); >(7) Made comments that are excuses about rape, assault and child sex trafficking (while he condemned all three as explained above); >(8) Used to keep a mattress in his MIT office, implying sexual activity and/or macho behavior at work (while in reality Stallman is known to have lived in his office for a certain period of his life). As a consequence of these writings, Stallman resigned from his position at MIT and also from his position at the Free Software Foundation. *REFERENCES IN CHRONOLOGICAL ORDER* SEPTEMBER 12 https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-fec6ec210794 SEPTEMBER 13 https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/9ke3ke/famed-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-described-epstein-victims-as-entirely-willing https://assets.documentcloud.org/documents/6405929/09132019142056-0001.pdf https://www.thedailybeast.com/famed-mit-computer-scientist-richard-stallman-defends-epstein-victims-were-entirely-willing SEPTEMBER 14 https://www.stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#14_September_2019_(Statements_about_Epstein) SEPTEMBER 16 https://medium.com/@selamie/remove-richard-stallman-appendix-a-a7e41e784f88 https://blog.halon.org.uk/2019/09/gnome-foundation-relationship-gnu-fsf/ https://sfconservancy.org/news/2019/sep/16/rms-does-not-speak-for-us/ https://stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#16_September_2019_(Resignation) https://www.fsf.org/news/richard-m-stallman-resigns *OTHER REFERENCES* STALLMAN ON HIS HOME https://stallman.org/rms-lifestyle.html STALLMAN ON PEDOPHILIA, 2006 https://www.stallman.org/archives/2006-may-aug.html#05%20June%202006%20%28Dutch%20paedophiles%20form%20political%20party%29 STALLMAN ON PEDOPHILIA, 2013 https://stallman.org/archives/2012-nov-feb.html#04_January_2013_%28Pedophilia%29

>>20995 Bad urls, post again please.

>>21000 >>20995 Now I saw it, nvm. Anyone with a twitter account mind sending sterling-archermedes.github.io to the bot?

Ask Russia for help: http://en.letters.kremlin.ru/letters/send Also Email Russia Today, RMS has been on their show many times: info@rttv.ru, producersgroup@rttv.ru, press@rttv.ru, LondonBureau@rttv.ru, RT-US@rttv.ru He was on their show many times, as was Putin.

Cunt women intelligence officers are assigned to demoralize free software movement. Women rule american males.

Stallman has freed himself from the SJWs and feminists that are polluting the GNU foundation and the FSF. Good for him.

>>21007 move to saudi arabia >>21013 >I use C look at me!! >I dont play games look at me!! i've seen people complain about arch users for years and now i finally understand

>>21007 >>21013 who the fuarrrk is posting this soykaf

>>21013 >I'm 16 and I've read the arch wiki

Really glad BSD doesn't have to deal with this bullshit.

>>21039 Well, FreeBSD already has macbook-using turbo SJW Benno Rice who unironically believes open-source communities need more "HR". Wait until they start going after Theo for being a rude meanie on the internet who regularly roasts novice contributors on the public ML.

>>21041 There's been so many things that have been morphed by now, kinda makes me wonder, has there ever been an attempt to actually pre-emptively work against it happening? I mean it's not a surprise that the agenda keeps spreading, I guess the end-game would be all orgs being innoculated. What would one actually do in advance to halt it? How could Theo be protected from being turned into another Torvalds? As far as I know everybody just waits around and says "oh geez" when it happens yet again.

Reposting a deleted post from the last thread >>20962 This post alone is enough to confirm Five Eyes PSYOPS and COINTELPRO involvement in these attacks on RMS and Free Software.

How interesting, both the quoted post >>20962 and old post were deleted from the previous thread. Link to another example of PSYOPS https://lainchan.org/%CE%A9/res/20141.html#q20928

I just discovered this. First time I went to 4chan in at least 7 years and it's the first thread I see. https://archive.is/3YO04 The PDF (attached) is dated March 15, 2019.

>>21015 >>21018 t. Ubuntu user. Who cares. It’s just something I’d saved and has nothing to do with what I wrote.

RMS talks with people on both Guix and GNU mailing lists, nothing interesting yet, but glad he does something.

>>20998 >>21059 Give some context. How is this relevant?

>>21075 People here should learn from RMS and let go of this crap. It was painfully obvious that he was unfit for the position anyway.

>>21076 The anti-rms hate mob is reframing history by saying that Stallman stole the source code for Emacs

>>21082 >People here should learn from RMS and let go of this crap. It was painfully obvious that he was unfit for the position anyway. No.

>>21085 What they really hate is that he said pro-pedo comments in the past. That goes against their religion.

>>21082 >People here should learn from RMS and let go of this crap. Learn from what exactly, what do you mean? >It was painfully obvious that he was unfit for the position anyway. He's not the best regarding social interactions, but he writes good articles about free software, which made me switch from "open source" and "linux" to free software and GNU. I also watched his more civilized speeches and I consider him a good speaker, he should just not talk to girls that are attractive for him and he should avoid talking about pedo stuff, then he would be a good leader.

>>21085 reframing sounds cute, it's straight lying and should be called out as such. Potential bullet to start #cancel on their own asses

>>21085 source?

>>21093 > What they really hate is that he said pro-pedo comments in the past. That goes against their religion. Only religious folk believe children aren't capable of consenting to sex. lol >>21095 >Learn from what exactly, what do you mean? Learn that autists probably shouldn't be in put in positions that require social finesse? At its core, the free software movement is a social movement. Maybe the president of the FSF shouldn't have been somebody who is socially inept.

>>21102 >software is social not at all, we want results not feelgood nonsense

>>21103 "results" is socially defined. Whether the computer does what you(or, more accurately, a group of people... a society, if you will) does what you want it to do is totally subjective, and must be treated as such.

>>21102 On the other hand, maybe the free software movement needed someone stubborn to an autistic degree to avoid being coopted by the many many corporate assaults.

>>21105 Missing the point. If you want social your results center around people. This project is however focused around software. The goal is good code not good boy points on twitter.

>>21108 Good code requires good coders. It's a community effort. If you can't convince people that your project is worth coding on, then you've failed.

>>21111 Good coders are robots, you won't attract them with politics crap. And the idea this thread is about - removing good coders because they don't behave as you demand is in fact counterproductive to said goal.

>>21108 >The goal is good code not good boy points on twitter. if the goal was good code, it would be "open source", not "free software". >>21112 >Good coders are robots malicious lie that corporate overlords have fed us. They want us not to think about the ways in which we affect people with what we do. RMS is not a robot, and he is not the best coder there is. He is a political firebrand. Free software needed him because it needed someone bullheaded who would never be swayed by corporate money. fuarrrk off with this idea that free software isn't a social, and fundamentally socialist, idea.

>>21102 >Learn that autists probably shouldn't be in put in positions that require social finesse? At its core, the free software movement is a social movement. Maybe the president of the FSF shouldn't have been somebody who is socially inept. This is really the core of the anti-RMS argument, "I don't like him, so he shouldn't be in control." Some say he smells, some say he's creepy, and some say he's autistic. Very useful life tip, what makes someone good with other people is how well they handle people who aren't good with other people. RMS has dealt with bizarrely inappropriate socially stunted trolls, like you, for over two decades, but you don't see him lowering himself to their level. RMS is clearly *incredibly* good at dealing with other people and displays immense social finesse. You could learn a thing or two from him.

>>21120 There is no anti-RMS argument and your definition of what makes a people person is just comical. For me this thread speaks about the lack of content nowadays even in an interest focused site. Cyberpunk and technology? lol bring me my soykafty gossip, I want some more of the us vs them mentality to get by.

>>20998 Perhaps interesting: Guile co-maintainer is stepping back, "due to recent events". https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2019-10/msg00012.html

>>20998 Stallman was always a bit socially unaware (aspie?). I guess you could say this was gonna happen sooner or later. And while he's been right about a lot of stuff and I respect him for what he's done for the open source community; he's also the creator of the cancer that is GNU

>>21101 Found it, seems to be this: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21251109

>>21113 The only socialist idea here is you trying to leech of his work without giving him anything in return for it.

>>21142 >trying to leech off work without giving anything in return for it. Sounds like capitalism to be honest fam

>>21146 capitalism just gives you less than you're worth and there is no direct asset seizure unless you want to go into scams.

>>21149 much like a leech, who doesn't take your soykaf but just funnels some of it to themselves.

>>21150 >symbiotic relationship is equal to pure parasitism you wageslave willingly and the capitalist takes a risk investing. If there was no profit there would be no reason to invest into you. The other take is socialism is capitalism for the poor. When you have nothing taking from others is the only means left to make a profit.

>>21120 >Very useful life tip, what makes someone good with other people is how well they handle people who aren't good with other people. Then it sounds like the FSF did a good thing in asking him to resign. >RMS is clearly *incredibly* good at dealing with other people and displays immense social finesse. If that were actually true he would still be leading the FSF.

>>21123 >Perhaps interesting: Guile co-maintainer is stepping back, "due to recent events". The interesting part of this is: * Mark H Weaver <address@hidden> [2019-10-16 01:42]: > Hello all, > > In light of recent events, I've decided to step back up as a > co-maintainer of GNU Guile. I am welcoming it, thank you for stepping back up. Jean Jean Louis - the same guy that have been making soykafstorm on Guix ML, calling Guix devs to resign from GNU. Did I miss something important?

>>21159 I found https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00005.html (conflicts in the gnu project now affect guile). Also an earlier mail https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2019-10/msg00002.html which gives a little more context.

Is it another attempt at a takeover? https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-09/msg00002.html Followed by this a month later https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-user/2019-10/msg00012.html I think Jean Louis is right... he is coming across a little strong but he seems passionate about GNU and for keeping the politics out.

>>21122 >There is no anti-RMS argument It's difficult to even know where to start with this. There have been anti-RMS folks since 1995, https://www.xach.com/naggum/articles/19951104T224244Z@naggum.no.html >I think he needs to be dumped in the cold-load stream with a bar of soap. Leave him there for a few hours to clean up, cut his frigging jesus beard and hippie hair off, and lock him out of the AI Lab for a few months or so to let people disinfect the building. >Then maybe they can let him back in, after they have replaced his eunuchs workstation with a SHOWER. And this is explicitly noted as a common occurrence. >I wonder what's wrong with whoever wrote this. I've seen a lot of people express the most intense hatred for RMS, with an accompanying deep interest in vilifying those who work on GNU projects or with him. frankly, whatever it is that might be true in what they say, why should anybody listen to them when _they_ don't want others to listen to someone that _they_ think is mad? it doesn't make much sense, does it? I am sure many people reading this have seen bizarre RMS prejudice. The present day LWN article about RMS's resignation is filled with character attacks. Character attacks on his personality are below. You'll notice that the word 'creepy' is used a lot. It's a nice thought terminating cliche, because it ends any possible discussion. How can you possibly defend yourself against people who think you're creepy? >The question is not whether FSF was diverse. The question is whether he made even a few women uncomfortable, or worse, with his behaviour. The evidence is overwhelming he did. Plus he had self-documented creepy views. > If you lack a way of telling which kind of person you're dealing with, but still go ahead with the card, it implies that you are fine making an interchangeable target out of them by default with no thought and/or care toward their feelings about it. That's a creepy behavior. >It is also creepy, and does not reflect well on any institution he represents. > It's entirely possible for RMS to have made wonderful contributions to the Free Software movement while at the same time being somewhat creepy to women. >Reading the stories of women who have come forward in the past few days who were pushed away/out of our community due to RMS's creepy actions has been very troubling. >RMS was a pioneer in the world of free software, and in other arenas not so much. Politically, he reminds me of Chomsky. Morally... he can be creepy at times. >That aside as well, the dude has said/done some creepy soykaf which could prove damage to reputation of his previous employer and therefore I think his resignation is in the best interest of the FSF and the movement as a whole. >That may well be the case but in the meantime, “not weird and creepy” should already be a more achievable standard to aim for. https://lwn.net/Articles/799375/ And there's the obligatory hygiene quips. >From a practical POV, I think that finding somebody whose personal hygiene conforms to the generally accepted standard would be a start. >Fourthly: let's not disregard the added context that the approach in question comes from someone who does not care enough about the comfort of others to do them the courtesy of personal hygiene. >The UN somehow manages to operate a General Assembly where people from many cultures can apparently congregate without offending one another's sensibilities as to dress, behaviour, and personal hygiene. https://lwn.net/Articles/799375/ Irrelevant character attacks on RMS have been pervasive for decades. There is very much a 'anti-RMS' argument, and it is very weak. >For me this thread speaks about the lack of content nowadays even in an interest focused site. Cyberpunk and technology? lol bring me my soykafty gossip, I want some more of the us vs them mentality to get by. You'll be disappointed to hear trying to have a meta-discussion about this makes you worse than everyone else rather than better.

>>21157 >Then it sounds like the FSF did a good thing in asking him to resign. Handling people who are bad with others doesn't mean doing whatever they ask. I'm much more interested in what the yearly budget report of the FSF will show. Anonymous polling of the associate forum showed that because of the resignation about ~40% planned to reduce support of the FSF, ~40% didn't care, and ~10% would increase support. An annual $10k donation was dropped because of FSF's resignation. In contrast, the most I've seen from the mob is, "Now I'm even less likely to contribute!". Threatening to stop doing something that was never done is a weak threat. Handling people does not mean just doing what a bunch of outsiders scream about. The FSF fuarrrked up. >If that were actually true he would still be leading the FSF. That's a circular argument, so I want to say something like, "I guess he must still be pretty amazing if he's in charge of GNU!", or "Guess he must be pretty amazing to have lead the FSF for several decades!", but it's better to say you've made the same mistake as last time. You think being good with people is about maximizing some arbitrary goal. Before, your goal was making a bunch of scandal chasers happy. The FSF succeeded at that, so you think they're good with people. In reality, they lost funding and public support. Now, your stated goal is helping RMS maintain his position. RMS failed to stay president, so you think he must be bad with people. In reality, he deliberately avoided an internal schism, a schism between people who's values actually matter.

>>21169 We know what they really want, though. When they're talking about him being "creepy" and "weird" and "[not] conform[ing] to the generally accepted standard," and "not car[ing] enough about the comfort of others," we know what they're really talking about. They want someone who will do everything they want, whenever they want it, with no shred of personal principles or vision. I.e., they want a lapdog who will willingly dismantle free software at the behest of their corporate owners. That's what they're asking for. That's all they're asking for, really.

Just ran a docker container that got the randomly generated name happy_stallman

RMS has requested an example of messages that were defending him that were deleted or blocked. He says that with a good example of this it will be possible to show what is happining, and suggests that it would be best to use an example of one that was deleted on the guix list etc, as such would be an example of how those trying to push themselves into control on GNU are censoring. (A good example would be one that would strike the Free Software community as reasonable, and one that doesn't make broad political statements (ex: without referancing feminism, SJW) etc, just defends RMS) I know you've had your messages deleted, and I've seen tons of "Message missing" posts on the mailing lists (obviously I don't know their content). If you have alt-links to non-censoring mailing list archives to show, or copyies of your own, please post them so I can send them back to RMS.

>>21282 https://blog.halon.org.uk/2019/09/gnome-foundation-relationship-gnu-fsf/ The GNOME guy said he deleted a large amounts of "abusive comments". If someone could find an archive of the comments, I think we can tell whether they are really "offensive", or just deleted for pointing out the facts a bit harshly.

>>21282 I'm not following the mail drama but it's all in the last thread. Some anon claims to have saved them. Previous: >>20141

>>21282 There is an archive of the thread here https://archive.fo/RhBmj

>>21171 >They want someone who will do everything they want, whenever they want it, with no shred of personal principles or vision. Sounds like they want a white wage-worker.

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2019-10/msg01382.html [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > Yes, sorry about the long time without any news -- I underwent > spine surgery and recovery took over two months. Will the operation give you the spine necessary to firmly reject nonfree software? ;-}. -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

>>21330 Maybe he's in better spirits than his enemies wish him to be.

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-system-discuss/2019-10/msg00170.html [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] > While you go to sleep tonight on your pillow, Richard is scrambling about > to find a place to live and a table to enjoy a warm meal, because these > pricks used him as a political tool. It is not quite that bad. I have a place to stay, with a fine kitchen, though I am not interested in doing real cooking. However, I found it unavoidable to leave place that has been my home for over 40 years. -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-system-discuss/2019-10/msg00146.html Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project From: Ruben Safir Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project Date: Tue, 15 Oct 2019 12:55:37 -0400 User-agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) On Tue, Oct 15, 2019 at 09:24:14AM +0100, Brandon Invergo wrote: > > Ruben Safir writes: > > > Bullshit > > > > You should leave and Richard should stop beiong harrassed by bigots like > > you > > > > The truth is, you don't get a say in this. GNU is not a democracy, > > Ruben (and everyone else), can you please take a kinder tone when > discussing on GNU lists, even if you disagree with the person? > > https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html > > Thanks, > No, an atrocity has happened here and I will not be calmed and I will not comply with niceties. And this goes beyond GNU. My friend and family was assaulted, attacked, and made homeless, and as he is entering an age where most people thinking of retiring in Florida, his lifetime of accomplishment has been attacked by a small minded group of fanatics. It is a huge injustice and I will not be kinder to these pricks. While you go to sleep tonight on your pillow, Richard is scrambling about to find a place to live and a table to enjoy a warm meal, because these pricks used him as a political tool. I will not be quiet nor will I use inappropriate language. This is an outrage and I will use outrage appropriate language to address it. These same bastards that signed this petition, after 9-11, when I got to Bordeaux, not even a few weeks after the attacks while the smell of the dead was still in the air all out NYC, asked me why do we lockup all our Muslims in NYC, and then made snide anti-semitic remarks at lunch. I know many of them. They are undeserving of a generous person like Richard to champion there projects and ideals. And their rat like behavior is not a one off event. It is a pattern of abuse. > -- > -brandon -- So many immigrant groups have swept through our town that Brooklyn, like Atlantis, reaches mythological proportions in the mind of the world - RI Safir 1998 http://www.mrbrklyn.com DRM is THEFT - We are the STAKEHOLDERS - RI Safir 2002 http://www.nylxs.com - Leadership Development in Free Software http://www2.mrbrklyn.com/resources - Unpublished Archive http://www.coinhangout.com - coins! http://www.brooklyn-living.com Being so tracked is for FARM ANIMALS and extermination camps, but incompatible with living as a free human being. -RI Safir 2013

If anyone has suggestions to improve the flyer...

>>20998 >https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ I just read the beginning of this, but it mentions the "hot ladies" picture without clarifying that it was fake (apparently someone else wrote that and took the photo, there people claiming this in the HN threads at least).

>>20998 >>21341 >I think 12 is too young and 16 is too old but my opinion is not relevant here This is hurting the message and should be removed IMO.

Overall this controversy is hurting the FOSS movement but doing wonders to the pedo movement. It's exposing a lot of people to well-stated obviously correct points they might not have considered otherwise.

>>21342 Yeah, I remember editing it out for the guy but he kept it in anyway. It's fine to have your opinions but don't put it on a message trying to prove that RMS is not a pedo/creep/etc , it'll just give more fuel for the other side to be like "SEE! ALL OF RMS'S SUPPORTERS ARE CHILD MOLESTER SUPPORTERS!".

>>21340 The font choice is wrong, the layout is unappealing, you're linking to a tinyurl page that always looks like a scam. Did you make this with GIMP? Use Inkscape for things like these.

Mutha fuarrrka'z been CANCELED

>>21345 >"SEE! ALL OF RMS'S SUPPORTERS ARE CHILD MOLESTER SUPPORTERS!". "Smart programmers support your freedoms" "Dumb wage workers don't" What's negative? It's just the truth

>>21330 Holy soykaf. >>21345 >>21342 I will take it out. >>21341 Please provide source on that so I can update it.

>>21368 https://medium.com/@whoisylvia/richard-stallman-has-been-vilified-by-those-who-dont-know-him-a3907b25b4c7 Last paragraph. Worth noting this has as much evidence of being the truth as the accusation itself. Also, even if it was true it should be no big deal. Discussion of that article: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21120806

If this thread does not stay on topic, it will be locked and eventually deleted. Irrelevant tangential discussion has nothing to do with providing RMS with any advocacy or defense from internet mob and is off topic. So far I have spent over 9 hours cleaning these threads from derails instead of just locking the thread and have received death threats for doing so. Also what is up with the lack of Green is my Pepper and other positive advocacy and supporting memes ? It is almost like lainons have forgotten. Noone seems to mention that he hasn't had his honorary doctorates or other awards stripped or the minor planet named after his , hasn't lost its name.

>>21370 >Also what is up with the lack of Green is my Pepper and other positive advocacy and supporting memes ? Excuse me what?

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00005.html >but it is still strange to find that the questions of "how much pedophilia advocacy is too much pedophilia >advocacy" or "how much creepiness towards women is acceptable"

Version 3.4 is out. Update your mirrors. Incorporated: >>21345 >>21342 >>21341 Added a non free js disclaimer to the petition link too. I have been forgetting that for ages. https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ Github sometimes takes a while to update the url, if it is not working append "html.index" to the end. >>21370 I see it now. Keep the good work orange man. >>21374 >>21375 You are not welcome here. >>>/twitter/ >>21376 meanie

Can anyone do the unfulfilling ant-work of informing all the people talking soykaf on this ycombinator ( >>21369 ) thread? If you do so remember to follow the GNU kind communication guidelines. https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/kind-communication.html >>21345 This thing is very stressful for me and some stuff slips by. Sorry. If you are the guy that wrote ididitforyoustallmansama.txt, I tried to incorporate you changes but got lost. My mental health has not been the greatest.

>>21370 >Also what is up with the lack of Green is my Pepper and other positive advocacy and supporting memes ? It is almost like lainons have forgotten. I personally have been watching the situation since the beginning and it became tiresome, while people using the situation to wage slave pedophilia never get tired. Additionally even if the current situation with what Stallman said about Minsky is mostly overblown and arguments against Stallman were mostly wrong, there's one thing Andy Wingo pointed out in the new mail that's too much for me: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00005.html Some of these posts are not bad, because they're just pure logic, but this one is not: https://web.archive.org/web/20170612074722/http://stallman.org/archives/2017-mar-jun.html#26_May_2017_(Prudish_ignorantism) Don't know how old they were, but the entire situation described there is controversial and I can understand that for some people this can be too much to accept Richard as the leader, especially if they were hurt in the past. I know sex with teenagers, if over the age of 12, is not considered by the medical definition as pedophilia, but I'm skeptical consensual sex between an adult and a teenager is a healthy relationship. I did what I could, I talked to devs on mailing lists, I've been looking for helpful information, but that's it. Now it's up to him to defend himself and I'm glad he have finally started talking with people on GNU/Guix mailing lists. He shouldn't be excluded from the project, but I think he should stop playing socially responsible roles, especially because free software enemies are waiting for the slightest mistake - he should've known that and shoud've prevented this. So yeah, even Stallman supporters can get tired.

>>21370 Just lock the thread Threads like these never turn out very well

>>21382 I don't see how it could be any more unhealthy than the porn they are already watching. Risky yes, but unhealthy?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7PVrK58iGw Based from the beginning.

>>21385 >getting punched in the face is not any worse than watching someone else get punched in the face

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/guile-devel/2019-10/msg00007.html > Now, onto the present. Seeing Mark step down from as a Guile co-maintainer was an indicator that something was amiss internally with Guile. I have a great respect for Mark, but I must admit that I've been extremely disappointed to see him, on internal GNU lists, steadfastly defending what I consider indefensible behavior by RMS. Upon seeing the mail to this list that Mark was stepping back into his co-maintainer role, I had assumed that Andy and Mark had worked through their differences and disagreements and was glad. But now that I know that the truth is that RMS, as chief nuisance, put Mark back into this role without the consent of either active Guile co-maintainer, and without even telling them, I am extremely disappointed and I do not approve. RMS, once again, has abused his leadership role to make unilateral decisions to the detriment of a GNU project. Yet another data point that reinforces my belief that when RMS "leads" the results are negative. This is not the behavior of a leader that I support, and I certainly don't personally recognize him as the leader of GNU. He truly is a broken stair, a stick in the mud, a roadblock. What happens if we pay no mind to him? Does the GNU brand mean anything at this point? If anything, it's probably negative.

>>21382 Just send RMS the censored emails : rms@gnu.org

>>21390 What? That analogy doesn't make any sense.

https://web.archive.org/save/https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ Updated mirror of https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/

https://web.archive.org/web/20191022080945/https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/ Updated mirror of https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/

"The nominee is quoted as saying that if the choice of a sexual partner were protected by the Constitution, "prostitution, adultery, necrophilia, bestiality, possession of child pornography, and even incest and pedophilia" also would be. He is probably mistaken, legally--but that is unfortunate. All of these acts should be legal as long as no one is coerced. They are illegal only because of prejudice and narrowmindedness." RMS on June 28th, 2003 https://stallman.org/archives/2003-mar-jun.html -------------------------- "I am skeptical of the claim that voluntarily pedophilia harms children. The arguments that it causes harm seem to be based on cases which aren't voluntary, which are then stretched by parents who are horrified by the idea that their little baby is maturing. " RMS on June 5th, 2006) https://stallman.org/archives/2006-mar-jun.html#05%20June%202006%20(Dutch%20paedophiles%20form%20political%20party -------------------------- " There is little evidence to justify the widespread assumption that willing participation in pedophilia hurts children. Granted, children may not dare say no to an older relative, or may not realize they could say no; in that case, even if they do not overtly object, the relationship may still feel imposed to them. That's not willing participation, it's imposed participation, a different issue. " RMS on Jan 4th, 2013) https://stallman.org/archives/2013-jan-apr.html#04_January_2013_(Pedophilia

>>21404 Based as fuarrrk stallman.

>>21404 Yeah, we've all read it. It's in the fuarrrking OP. Do you have anything to add?

>>21404 Illiterate soykaf. https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/

>>21411 Here's a tip: KISS. Just explain why RMS is based and why his thoughts are based aswell.

http://ebb.org/bkuhn/blog/2019/10/15/fsf-rms.html

>>21343 normal people don't contribute to free software. They just suck up all it's money in "foundation" positions and "outreachery"

>>21420 Free Software needs users to stay relevant and we need to appeal to normal people in order to get users.

Bradly Kuhn outlines his treachery. On Recent Controversial Events > >Tuesday 15 October 2019 by Bradley M. Kuhn > >The last 33 days have been unprecedentedly difficult for the software freedom community and for me personally. Folks have been emailing, phoning, texting, tagging me on social media (\u2014 the last of which has been funny, because all my social media accounts are placeholder accounts). But, just about everyone has urged me to comment on the serious issues that the software freedom community now faces. Until now, I have stayed silent regarding all these current topics: from Richard M. Stallman (RMS)'s public statements, to his resignation from the Free Software Foundation (FSF), to the Epstein scandal and its connection to MIT. I've also avoided generally commenting on software freedom organizational governance during this period. I did this for good reason, which is explained below. However, in this blog post, I now share my primary comments on the matters that seem to currently be of the utmost attention of the Open Source and Free Software communities. > >I have been silent the last month because, until two days ago, I was an at-large member of FSF's Board of Directors, and a Voting Member of the FSF. As a member of FSF's two leadership bodies, I was abiding by a reasonable request from the FSF management and my duty to the organization. Specifically, the FSF asked that all communication during the crisis come directly from FSF officers and not from at-large directors and/or Voting Members. Furthermore, the FSF management asked all Directors and Voting Members to remain silent on this entire matter \u2014 even on issues only tangentially related to the current situation, and even when speaking in our own capacity (e.g., on our own blogs like this one). The FSF is an important organization, and I take any request from the FSF seriously \u2014 so I abided fully with their request. > >The situation was further complicated because folks at my employer, Software Freedom Conservancy (where I also serve on the Board of Directors) had strong opinions about this matter as well. Fortunately, the FSF and Conservancy both had already created clear protocols for what I should do if ever there was a disagreement or divergence of views between Conservancy and FSF. I therefore was recused fully from the planning, drafting, and timing of Conservancy's statement on this matter. I thank my colleagues at the Conservancy for working so carefully to keep me entirely outside the loop on their statement and to diligently assure that it was straight-forward for me to manage any potential organizational disagreements. I also thank those at the FSF who outlined clear protocols (ahead of time, back in March 2019) in case a situation like this ever came up. I also know my colleagues at Conservancy care deeply, as I do, about the health and welfare of the FSF and its mission of fighting for universal software freedom for all. None of us want, nor have, any substantive disagreement over software freedom issues. > >I take very seriously my duty to the various organizations where I have (or have had) affiliations. More generally, I champion non-profit organizational transparency. Unfortunately, the current crisis left me in a quandary between the overarching goal of community transparency and abiding by FSF management's directives. Now that I've left the FSF Board of Directors, FSF's Voting Membership, and all my FSF volunteer roles (which ends my 22-year uninterrupted affiliation with the FSF), I can now comment on the substantive issues that face not just the FSF, but the Free Software community as a whole, while continuing to adhere to my past duty of acting in FSF's best interest. In other words, my affiliation with the FSF has come to an end for many good and useful reasons. The end to this affiliation allows me to speak directly about the core issues at the heart of the community's current crisis. > >Firstly, all these events \u2014 from RMS' public comments on the MIT mailing list, to RMS' resignation from the FSF to RMS' discussions about the next steps for the GNU project \u2014 seem to many to have happened ridiculously quickly. But it wasn't actually fast at all. In fact, these events were culmination of issues that were slowly growing in concern to many people, including me. > >For the last two years, I had been a loud internal voice in the FSF leadership regarding RMS' Free-Software-unrelated public statements; I felt strongly that it was in the best interest of the FSF to actively seek to limit such statements, and that it was my duty to FSF to speak out about this within the organization. Those who only learned of this story in the last month (understandably) believed Selam G.'s Medium post raised an entirely new issue. In fact, RMS' views and statements posted on stallman.org about sexual morality escalated for the worse over the last few years. When the escalation started, I still considered RMS both a friend and colleague, and I attempted to argue with him at length to convince him that some of his positions were harmful to sexual assault survivors and those who are sex trafficked, and to the people who devote their lives in service to such individuals. More importantly to the FSF, I attempted to persuade RMS that launching a controversial campaign on sexual behavior and morality was counter to his and FSF's mission to advance software freedom, and told RMS that my duty as an FSF Director was to assure the best outcome for the FSF, which IMO didn't include having a leader who made such statements. Not only is human sexual behavior not a topic on which RMS has adequate academic expertise, but also his positions appear to ignore significant research and widely available information on the subject. Many of his comments, while occasionally politically intriguing, lack empathy for people who experienced trauma. > >IMO, this is not and has never been a Free Speech issue. I do believe freedom of speech links directly to software freedom: indeed, I see the freedom to publish software under Free licenses as almost a corollary to the freedom of speech. However, we do not need to follow leadership from those whose views we fundamentally disagree. Moreover, organizations need not and should not elevate spokespeople and leaders who speak regularly on unrelated issues that organizations find do not advance their mission, and/or that alienate important constituents. I, like many other software freedom leaders, curtail my public comments on issues not related to FOSS. (Indeed, I would not even be commenting on this issue if it had not become a central issue of concern to the software freedom community.) Leaders have power, and they must exercise the power of their words with restraint, not with impunity. > >RMS has consistently argued that there was a campaign of \u201cprudish intimidation\u201d \u2014 seeking to keep him quiet about his views on sexuality. After years of conversing with RMS about how his non-software-freedom views were a distraction, an indulgence, and downright problematic, his general response was to make even more public comments of this nature. The issue is not about RMS' right to say what he believes, nor is it even about whether or not you agree or disagree with RMS' statements. The question is whether an organization should have a designated leader who is on a sustained, public campaign advocating about an unrelated issue that many consider controversial. It really doesn't matter what your view about the controversial issue is; a leader who refuses to stop talking loudly about unrelated issues eventually creates an untenable distraction from the radical activism you're actively trying to advance. The message of universal software freedom is a radical cause; it's basically impossible for one individual to effectively push forward two unrelated controversial agendas at once. In short, the radical message of software freedom became overshadowed by RMS' radical views about sexual morality.

>>21422 >problematic These people really do love their Newspeak. It's sad to know that so many people within free software organisations are like this. He also repeatedly insists that freedom in general is totally unrelated to freedom in the context of software. I'm not sure how that makes sense in his mind, but I've really given up on understanding these people at all, anyway.

>>21423 If Free Software was a mafia, Bradly would be dead.

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Sphere, is in fact, Belly/Sphere, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, Belly plus Sphere. Sphere is not a digestive system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning Belly system made useful by the Belly's pepsin, pancreatic enzymes and vital bodily components comprising a full DS as defined by RSB. Many organic users run a modified version of the Belly system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of Belly which is widely used today is often called “Sphere”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the Belly system, developed by the Belly Project. There really is a Sphere, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Sphere is the stomach fat: the circumference of the system that allocates the organ’s energy build up to the other muscles that you run. The kernel is an essential part of a digestive system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete digestive system. Sphere is normally used in combination with the Belly digestive system: the whole system is basically Belly with Sphere added, or Belly/Sphere. All the so-called “Sphere” distributions are really distributions of Belly/Sphere.

Germans angry RMS is gone. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8o3q3pqi1fs Germans displeased.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnw_K5DPkbc "The last hacker at the AI lab. ... The AI lab ceased to be a special exciting place because it ceased to have a culture Dominated by hackers. And the the administrators took over and put on the kind of rules that existed everywhere else." --RMS. History is repeating itself.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gnw_K5DPkbc' 29:45 "Because I;m not like most foolish Americans who go into debt" Based as fk. BASED AS FK. He's right about americans

23 September 2018 (Cody Wilson) Cody Wilson has been charged with hiring a "child" sex worker. Her age has not been announced, but I think she must surely be a teenager, not a child. Calling teenagers "children" in this context is a way of smearing people with normal sexual proclivities as "perverts". They have accused him of "sexual assault", a term so vague that it should never be used at all. With no details, we can't tell whether the alleged actions deserve that term. What we do know is that the term is often used for a legal lie. She may have had — I expect, did have — entirely willing sex with him, and they would still call it "assault".

Based. Stallman defends our main 3d printed gun man Cody. https://stallman.org/archives/2018-jul-oct.html#23_September_2018_(Cody_Wilson)

https://www.stallman.org/articles/children.html Most fathers in the US have to work very hard to get money for their children. I did not want a life of running on a treadmill, doing whatever people with money would tell me to do. A large fraction of US fathers eventually get divorced, and subsequently rarely see the children for whom they are spending most of their time scrabbling for money. What a futile life! But even those who are not yet divorced see their children little, since they are so busy at work.

He ain't about to stop: https://www.stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#19_October_2019_(Sexual_education) 19 October 2019 (Sexual education) The UK has canceled its requirement for porn sites to identify users. The stated motive for this was to exclude teenagers, but what is important is the tracking itself, not its purpose. Why stop people from viewing porn, if they want to? Much of today's porn is aimed at heterosexual men and presents a totally wrong idea of what women like. When teenage men believe this, they can get twisted. When they practice out what they have learned from this, they can make women very unhappy. Leading them to porn showing sexual practices that various real teenage women really do enjoy would solve this problem in a better way. (This does not require real teenage actors, or even real human actors.) Why replace bad education with no education? Replace it with good education.

18 October 2019 (Protest and arrest for Extinction Rebellion) George Monbiot writes about planning to be arrested for protesting for Extinction Rebellion. (I read that he was indeed arrested.) It is misguided, even unfair, to criticize Extinction Rebellion for being "too white" or "too male" or too whatever of that kind, because that is not their choice. A volunteer activity must to go with those that volunteer. When an activity needs to recruit as many people as possible, it would be self-defeating to reject some volunteers for the sake of demographic balance. Rather, the activity must seek, and welcome, every volunteer that is willing and able to work for the cause. If you would like more blacks or more women to participate in Extinction Rebellion, by all means try to recruit them. But don't criticize the campaign for doing the most it can with the people who have volunteered. Indeed, people from less privileged groups may have rational reasons to hold back. Maybe they have to work 50 hours a week to get by. Maybe they expect the judicial system to treat them with bias. Maybe they can't afford bail and fear being jailed for months if they are arrested, or being stuck for years in a Ferguson-like cycle of fines and jail. Given that privilege exists, I'm glad that people with more privilege are taking advantage of it to take risks for the sake of saving the world from disaster.

>>21495 I wonder if Stallman is a sperm donor. It would be a shame for his lineage to stop at him.

>>21502 Probably not. If not having children in order to curb population growth is one of his advocacy I can't see why he wouldn't extend that to institutions that promote population such as sperm banks.

>>21502 He's an antinatalist who believes it's unethical to create more life and you should adopt if you want kids.

>>21502 He has siblings.

>>21528 Yeah, I think he has a brother who is also an hacker and living in germany. I remember reading his blog or twitter.

>>21529 Will he bro take care of RMS' enemies?

>>21422 > I also thank those at the FSF who outlined clear protocols (ahead of time, back in March 2019) in case a situation like this ever came up.

Some years ago, Stallman noted to an interviewer that he was miserable: that he almost wished he was never born at all, and that he continued on for the sake of free software; his mission. Stallman has also written that he has chosen to remain "child free" in-part because he has observed the vast majority of fathers pay enormous sums, work their whole lives for another (whomever gives them the money), and then are divorced and forced to pay even more for their sacrifice. That this happens to the majority of such men; each thinking that it won't happen to them at the start. He was not so egotistical to believe he would be some exception. He chose not to start down the path to such a: futile life. He has also written some fiction about AI-love affair. He has also 'defended' paedophillia. Multiple times. The 'normal people', which include Bradly M Kuhn (neither a programmer, nor a lawyer,yet feels standing to viciously publically libel Stallman (in the non-american sense)) have pieced these things together and see: A programmer nerd, who, rather than become a mule for a woman/society, would rather have either an artificial wife (like seen in japanese Anime), or a child bride. What they see is, to use their own new term: "An Incel". They then deduce that Stallman would be much happier in some ways a traditional Muslim society, or an old Jewish society: and hates American society. Thus they attack him. They've infiltrated his projects, attempted to divide him from his friends (by driving them out first and away from him, and taking positions in their place), and are attempting to wrest from him the one thing that keeps him going. *(Many of their copatriots have stated they wish he was dead or in prison; some have stated they wish to effect atleast an imprisonment.)

>>21422 This post downplays RMS's ongoing work on issues that are related to FSF's mission. RMS has always been known for his FSF-related work, especially his speeches. This might be different now after the CANCEL STALLMAN campaign (which actually started with the purpose of focusing on things that are unrelated to FSF's mission). And if the public's view on RMS is different right now, on what facts is it based? The points mentioned in OP >>20998 are totally ignored.

>>21423 I'll translate for you. >>21422 >his non-software-freedom views were ... problematic (Though Crime) >IMO, this is not and has never been a Free Speech issue... [because] we do not need to follow leadership from those whose views we fundamentally disagree. (Thought Crime is not Free Speech. You're allowed to say anything you want as long as it's allowed.) >I also thank those at the FSF who outlined clear protocols (ahead of time, back in March 2019) in case a situation like this ever came up. (we've been planning this since March)

>>21529 >Yeah, I think he has a brother who is also an hacker and living in germany. I remember reading his blog or twitter. Ayyo, bone thugg, can ya share a link, muah fuarrrka?

>>21586 Why does Bradly, a non-programmer, non-hacker, non-lawyer, get to speak on anything? The only thing he "is", that Stallman "is" or any of the guys involved in the beginning too (lawyers, programmers, hackers) were, is Jewish. How is that a qualification? All he does is fuarrrk up free software lawsuits.

https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/gnu-system-discuss/2019-10/msg00202.html Making git as easy as CVS, for handling merge conflicts From: Richard Stallman Subject: Making git as easy as CVS, for handling merge conflicts Date: Sun, 27 Oct 2019 19:51:58 -0400 [[[ To any NSA and FBI agents reading my email: please consider ]]] [[[ whether defending the US Constitution against all enemies, ]]] [[[ foreign or domestic, requires you to follow Snowden's example. ]]] Is it possible to write a front-end for Git which reliably handles merge conflicts the way CVS handles them? Given that, I expect I could use Git. -- Dr Richard Stallman Founder, Free Software Foundation (https://gnu.org, https://fsf.org) Internet Hall-of-Famer (https://internethalloffame.org)

>>21604 RMS getting back on the mother fuarrrking block, back to software design and implementation!.

The OP really did stop defending RMS because "pedo" didn't he?

More from the twitter code bitches: https://twitter.com/TartanLlama/status/1187064671020503041 Sy Brand 🦇 ‏ @TartanLlama Fossilised Dinosaur Poop: Wrote something relevant a decade or two ago. Now mostly sits and writes racist, misogynistic stuff on Twitter and plays the victim when called out on it. Prefers "Uncle Fossilised Dinosaur Poop".

https://www.facebook.com/kelly.bachman.906/videos/10159157708218986 >Wooo, sister, wooo

>>21609 >I have a Twitter account called rmspostcomments, which I use to log in on other sites to post comments on articles. I never post on Twitter. Someone made an account stallman_feed which I'm told posts something about my political notes. Any other Twitter account that claims to be mine is an impostor.

> https://twitter.com/cancel_stallman > is stallman cancelled? ‏> @cancel_stallman >very cancelled. almost Epstein level cancelled. Epstein is dead...

>>21612 Is cancel stallman a threat?

So all you white soykafheads quit defending Stallman because "Pedos"? fuarrrk you white idiots.

>From the perspective of someone who cares about technology, Stallman’s views undermine the progress of free software, and will cement its reputation in some quarters as a fringe sphere populated by weirdos. Good. normal people do NOTHING, but attempt to control EVERYTHING. They are social creatures; not programmers; not thinkers; just worker automons (at best) >As someone who cares about the people who work in technology, Stallman’s views might contribute to talented people leaving the space. Lol. Talent and a dollar will get you.... Well it won't get you what you really need: Will. >And as someone who cares about children, the normalisation of pedophilia creates massive safeguarding issues. Men should take female children as brides, they are very pretty and cute.

>>21620 mostly I just want to distance myself from the fuarrrks who "defend" stallman by saying that actually, pedophilia is okay. It's a pretty obvious psyop to associate stallman even more with pedos.

>>21622 >mostly I just want to distance myself from the fuarrrks who "defend" stallman by saying that actually, pedophilia is okay. I don't see anyone saying that to be honest, (expect >>21619 >>21620 who posted the exact same thing on other chans and is obviously a troll). The serious responses defending Stallman are just saying that a dude's autistic opinions about non-tech things has nothing to do with his ability to run a tech organization like fsf.

>>21624 But to answer your question: he means anyone with the ability to speak. It is pretty shocking to the current generation of techies what was considered mainstream in the 70s [0], wherein every important French left wing intellectual of the period signed in support. >Such a long time in remand to investigate a simple `vice’ affair, where the children have not been victims of the slightest violence, but have to the contrary testified before the examining magistrates that they consented — although the law at present denies them their right to consent — such a long time in remand we do consider scandalous in itself. Today they risk to be sentenced to a long prison term either for having had sexual relations with minors, boys as well as girls, or for having encouraged and taken photographs of their sexual plays. We believe that there is an incongruity between the designation as a `crime’ which serves to legitimize such a severity, and the facts themselves; even more so between the antiquated law and the reality of every day life in a society which tends to know about the sexuality of children and adolescents [0] https://www.ipce.info/ipceweb/Library/00aug29b1_from_1977.ht...

>>21622 >mostly I just want to distance myself from the fuarrrks who "defend" stallman by saying that actually, pedophilia is okay. It's a pretty obvious psyop to associate stallman even more with pedos. Stallman's statements are not going away, they are in the public record now. Do you think ignoring them is a viable strategy?

https://www.stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html 21 September 2019 (Sex workers) Today's Sex Workers, Like Their Victorian Sisters, Don't Want "saving". Feminism today is drifting off the track into a campaign of prudery that harms everyone, except those who are asexual.

>>21644 >Victorian prostitutes were often quite young btw...

They've been trying to "get" him for awhile: https://opensourcetogo.blogspot.com/2009/07/emailing-richard-stallman.html

The obvious baiting and trolling about "white" opposition to pedophilia doesn't seem to be generating as much excitement as perhaps intended. But worse, it's not helping or even related to defending Stallman, which is what this thread is supposed to be about. Anyone know how Stallman is doing and what his plans are?

>>21646 Who are you quoting?

> A woman I loved long ago, Julie Fabre, became an Anglican priest. Since then I have lost touch with her. If anyone knows her, I would be glad to speak with her again. https://www.stallman.org/archives/2019-jul-oct.html#29_October_2019_(Catholic_church_considers_reducing_bias) Will you help?

>>21696 What's the chance that anyone here knows a, let alone a specific, Anglican priest?

What are you guys's opinions on opinions??

>>21709 Who is that?

>>21738 Imagine a Gen X man who spends his entire day finding every form of popular communication --Chans, Email Mailing Lists, Usenet Newsgroups, Forums, even postal mail-- and cross-posts his uninformed opinion everywhere. Now imagine this person is a lolcow and speaks in a manurism that can instantly be identified. Now imagine that a top name in Free Software/Open Source doesn't realize this and recieves an email stating that your "Game" he's been making for 12+ years was shut down due to sexism. This man then writes about it. This then makes him feel vindicated so he begins to share his nonsensical, uninformed opinion everywhere more. This is MikeeUSA. And he was here. https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/MikeeUSA

This thread has been succesfully derailed. It was going to be left open until it hit bump limit, however for this to continue , it needs to be rerailed first. The reason rule breaking posts are deleted is because they break rules. Deleting them allows the thread to remained unlocked and open for posting , rather than locking the thread or deleting the thread. Please resume the topic of defense of Stallman from the internet mob. Though I am starting to suspect that very little defense is being provided to Stallman, and to paraphrase Annie by Judy Small, Don't you worry about RMS He don't lie awake and pine He has purpose to drive his life He still continues to fight for software freedom RMS is doing just fine (repeat) Please take any discussion about mods and Lainchan to /q/.

>>21740 >Imagine a Gen X man who spends his entire day finding every form of popular communication --Chans, Email Mailing Lists, Usenet Newsgroups, Forums, even postal mail-- and cross-posts his uninformed opinion everywhere. >. This then makes him feel vindicated so he begins to share his nonsensical, uninformed opinion everywhere more. This is MikeeUSA. And he was here. What's the difference, he was already sharing his opinion everywhere, and then kept doing that? And Postal mail? Are you sure?

>>21761 The pedos are defending him like mad.

>>21767 If group X supports Y, that doesn't mean Y is part of X. lrn2logic

>>21766 >>21767 >>21773 Guise, please. You can make a thread about this guy or about p*dos somewhere else.

>>21773 You are an idiot. Assertion was made: > Though I am starting to suspect that very little defense is being provided to Stallman, and to paraphrase Annie by Judy Small, Response was given: >The pedos are defending him like mad. Then you posted this: >If group X supports Y, that doesn't mean Y is part of X. lrn2logic Retard. lrn2logic

bug#38002: Please remove this joke https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/bug-gnu-emacs/2019-11/msg00045.html

>>21784 -Re: patch for woman (woman-topic-at-point) - - "Sorry for the long message. I wanted to make the problem clear -also for people not familiar with 'woman'." - "Most hackers, I take? - For a moment there I thought you had a patch that you could put on -a woman, and it would make her come right to the topic at point -without attempting any course of action that requires an advance -course in divination. - There'd be quite a sensational market for that, you know." - -- Emilio Lopes and David Kastrup Yeah it deserves removal, sounds like an autistic version of NPC standup comedy

>>21785 >White normal person tries to into tech.

>>21785 fuarrrk yourself, cunt.

https://www.stallman.org/archives/2019-sep-dec.html 2 November 2019 (Quitting Twitter) "I quit Twitter and haven’t looked back -– my fellow MPs should do the same."

2 November 2019 (Non-denunciation) A woman in the UK received a child porn video and forwarded it to friends in outrage. One of the people she sent it to was her sister, a cop. Now the cop is being prosecuted for not denouncing her sister as a criminal for this. The article does not say whether the sister who sent it will be prosecuted too.

2 November 2019 (Halloween and sex offenders) There is no documented case of a registered sex offender's sexually abusing a child in connection with Halloween, but many parts of the US harass them with annoying precautions against it all the same.

Based Stallman. Thumbing his nose at the peeps trying to silence him.

>>21806 >>21807 >>21808 Stop posting Stallman's blog. The more I read the less I respect him as a human being.

An update on Operation glitterboybuster, the investigation of the glitterboys attacking RMS. https://pjmedia.com/instapundit/339725/ An eyewitness testimony by Greg Benford states that Minsky is completely innocent. RMS is 100% right in defending Minsky. Giuffre's deposition does not state that she actually had sex with Minsky. The truth is on RMS' side. To the enemies of Free Software, we will eliminate every single one of your lies. LONG LIVE RMS AND FREE SOFTWARE!

>>21804 White normal person must be RMS because he agreed with the removal >>21810 Eh, you take the good as you do with all people. The bad doesn't let him be taken seriously as president or manager or something then so be it. Management takes away time from hacking anyway

>>21817 There's nothing bad about what Stallman wrote. >Eh >>21810 >Stop posting Stallman's blog. >The more I read the less I respect him as a human being. "GNO" Like your Free Software? Stallman is the but-for cause of it. Mad at his views: that's because you are a peasant cattle slave.