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Hi Lains! Which terminal emulator do you use? I'm currently looking for a new terminal emulator, because the standard Gnome terminal isn't really doing it for me and I've never really explored the other options that may be available. Do you have any recommendations?

I use urxvt in client/server mode. It is really quick and lightweight and still easy to use and set up

>>15874 It looks cool and kind of daunting! Can I perhaps see how you set it up (just the end result) the screenshots I found from googling were a bit opaque to me, but I think I may just be a bit dense

>>15873 I use qterminal. I don't know if I recommend it if you use Gnome. What are you looking for in a terminal ? I am not really sure if someone has actually done a detailed comparison of terminal emulators. I am aware of the following LWN series though https://lwn.net/Articles/749992/ https://lwn.net/Articles/751763/ Benchmarks from article available at https://github.com/anarcat/terms-benchmarks Older comparisons are available from https://martin.ankerl.com/2007/09/01/comprehensive-linux-terminal-performance-comparison/ https://lwn.net/Articles/88161/ as well as the following section on an awesome list https://github.com/k4m4/terminals-are-sexy#terminal-emulation-applications and the following list on the archlinux wiki https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/List_of_applications#Terminal_emulators and the following list from Gentoo package database https://packages.gentoo.org/categories/x11-terms and https://www.linux-apps.com/search/projectSearchText/terminal+emulator/page/1 has at least >70 possible lesser known terminal emulators. I have used many terminal emulators, (over 15 different ones), but I don't really have any information in order to give you a recommendation, but I guess if you could start with roxterminal or lxterminal or several other lightweight gtk terminals if you used a GTK based desktop environment. If you have a specific feature set or requirement in mind, then it would easier to make a better recommendation.

>>15881 Thanks for the in-depth post! I'm busy trying Guake out at the moment (installed it about 20 minutes ago) and I love being able to toggle visibility so far. I'm very new to terminal usage, so I'm not even sure of what makes a good terminal or what I would want in it. I was mostly trying to see what people like in a terminal and what they use to get an idea of what could be useful in a terminal. I'll give your resources a read soon and see what I can glean from them! I suppose it would be best if I used multiple terminals, because some applications I use require a much larger window, vs the guake terminal which I can use for small, quick applications. I like being able to customise the appearance of my terminal a bit and I think tab completion for filenames are my two biggest wants at the moment. Thanks again for the comprehensive post!

>>15873 >macbook pro 9.2 My nigga, I'm using the same thing right now. Quick question, tho absolutely off topic have you had any problems regarding cpu temp on linux? I used to run arch/manjaro here but the temps where so high compared to osx I ended up going back to osx

>>15883 I have actually noticed it! It's less of an issue in Fedora than it was in arch, but it seems that the Intel Speedstep was boosting it to 3.1Ghz permanently. I'm not sure what about fedora fixed it.

>>15882 There are minimal differences between terminal emulators. You probably want to try a new shell, like zsh or fish, within your existing terminal, which will give you better tab completion and other such features. I use zsh with the xfce terminal.

urxvt on my laptop for aesthetics. It's really easy to rice, because Xresources. Terminator at work because I like the build-in splitting function.

I do use urxvtd right now, refusing to change to the saner st cause' I do like to have a NeXT scrollbar (I am on wmaker). If I was'nt restrained by the desire to have a nice and coherent looking enviroment, I would also try those new GPU accelerated terms, they not seem stable enough though. >>15882 >I like being able to customise the appearance of my terminal a bit and I think tab completion for filenames are my two biggest wants at the moment. Allmost all terms do have a way to change the colours and the font. Like >15888 says tab completion is made by the shell, if you use bash, you already have tab completion on any term. fish does not have tab completion by default, it uses completion as type which is more convenient, definitely reccomended for beginners. Personally I do like the clean and simple oksh, running it out of openbsd.

>>15891 before you start asking why am I using that much RAM, no, I'm not compiling Rust, it is only that the FreeBSD RAM management is "clear memory is wasted memory", so anyone knows how much RAM does freeBSD really use.

>>15884 I'm gonna check it out as soon as I have some time, thanks lain

I use st because I hate maintaining configuration files and plugins. Having all the settings baked in and recompiling when necessary is ironically much less work for me. I don't really care about ricing, I just want my terminal to look and behave the way it always has.

I use st mainly because I want something with true colour support (urxvt doesn't have it) and have it as light as possible. It may be slightly daunting, use suckless programs, that is, but I like the modularity and control over the programs.

I switched from konsole to xterm recently since konsole has issues with w3m and I use ranger a lot and like to have image support. Other than odd little things any terminal emulator is fine

Tilda. Because it's comfortable, it looks cute and it was easy to config.

Sakura is a very simple terminal emulator. I used it for a while before switching bac to urxvt for no particular reasons.

Urxvt, i have no specific reason to use it. The first ricing tutorial i've ever gone through used it, so i guess i'm just used to it's API now.

>>15882 I currently use GNU Emacs 'term' for these purposes, but I suspect that's not very helpful. Before I switched to Emacs I used xterm with tmux (a good terminal multiplexer is probably more important than the terminal emulator to me) just because xterm is 'the standard terminal emulator', and tmux came installed on my system. I wish there was data on the amount of ECMA-48 & ISO/IEC 8613-6 terminal emulators supported, along with a unicode support table this would make it possible to make a rational choice between terminal emulators, unfortunately we mostly only have unjustified claims (it's probably not a significant enough thing to actually test though). st + mtm would be a good option if you're into the minimal thing. kitty (not to be confused with KiTTY) would be the best choice if you want a very featureful terminal emulator. xterm & urxtv would be good options if you want the 'standard experience' (tm). libvte (and konsole) terminal emulators are typically used because they integrate well with DEs. That probably wraps things up more or less.

>>15932 How do you fare with Term? I'd love to get rid of my terminal emulator for an emacs thing, but they seem to break on even pretty innocuous ansi codes (e.g. Term gets garbled with the interactive progress output of wget).

>>15873 my best compromise for functionality/comfort and simplicity, ease of installation/configuration and generally being able to utilize the same terminal in an identical configuration ubiquitously due to the few needed dependencies and lastly performance was suckless st[1] by a long shot. It's light, has all hackability and configuration I need, and to install it somewhere I just clone my repo and compile (or crosscompile) it. It's simple, it's good, it works and generally is like kicking dead whales down the beach less. [1] https://st.suckless.org/

>>15939 I haven't had any issues, but I'm a light terminal user these days. I also only use simple cli applications like ksh, & OpenBSD fs utilities.

Termite. Easy configuration is the main reason.

>>15919 Try using Ueberzug instead of w3m (https://github.com/seebye/ueberzug). Pretty sure ranger and cfiles supports them.

>>15874 This, although I only recently started using it in client mode. Other than that I tried mlterm and st but I wasn't convinced.

termite is pretty cool, has transparency and color settings

>>16012 forgot to include image

>>15873 Can I have the wallpaper?

>>15890 hello me. question, why not just switch to a tiling wm if you feel like that? I still use terminator for work, don't get me wrong. The awful multi monitor support is keeping me from i3.

>>16016 Here you go, friend!

>>16013 How did you get the image of lain to display, is that just a script that echoes it or how does it work?

>>16046 It is jp2a. It types out any jpeg to stdout in ASCII.

>>16038 What? Awful multi monitor support for i3? You do realise that i3 was designed with multiple monitors in mind, right? Literally take a look at the User Guide for it (https://i3wm.org/docs/userguide.html#multi_monitor).

Recently switched from urxvt to st and I quite like it. Got me thinking about switching from i3 to dwm...

>>16051 Well, it does support multiple monitors, and does so properly. I should re-iterate, I enjoy everything about i3, but I don't find the way multi monitor works intuïtive when it comes to workspaces, that is all.

unironically xterm. The code is a mess, but there is nothing to add and it still compiles well. It supports true color, all your favourite fonts, utf-8, double-width and box drawing characters. It even supports sixels. I am working on making some backgrounds with the true color support now, wish me luck.

>>15873 I've been taking Tilix for a spin over the past few days. If you're a novice tmux/screen user, it might be for you. I've never been a fan of window and pane management in tmux; a GUI that lets me drag panes around with a mouse is more comfortable for me. https://gnunn1.github.io/tilix-web/

>>16012 back, did some ricing with awesome and got this bullsoykaf lol

>URXVT

>>15873 i like deepin-terminal its simple

i switch between xterm for simple tasks and Terminator more long term work.

I used st for a little while but I can't stand that dumbass attitude suckless has. Missing a basic ass feature and their answer is "use tmux"

>>15916 Have to second this. I used simple urxvt, than urxvt in server mode, but st is much cleaner, faster, and does what it's supposed to do and nothing more.

Kitty. It supports ligatures.

>>15873 After patching transparency and scrollback, I use st. Originally i went with gnome-terminal and then urxvt for a while. I'm not familiar with the patch command and scrollback was a nescessitiy for me so i almost gave up lol >>15922 >>16093 Wow, those look good. Especially Termite. Might check them out.

>>15873 I just started using ST and it's fantastic. Basically if you want a useable experience (in my eyes) you change one character in the config for a bar cursor, install the clipboard patch, (patch -i) and set the execute command to be tmux, and then disable status bar and enable mouse in .tmux.conf. It scrolls, does one clipboard, and allows for scrolling which is pretty nice. I just changed my tmux config combo so I can use tmux in an ssh session without it getting hooked by the tmux session in st.

>>15890 My nigga. Terminator is fuarrrking comfy on my laptops. >>16038 Exactly, you just answered your own question

I see many lainons are using st so I wanna ask is there anyway for ranger image preview to work on st? Suckless removed support for w3m-img a few years ago so currently there's no way to display image on st as far as I know. I'm considering to move to another terminal emulator because of this.

>>16513 I still use st, and ranger previews do still work. However, do keep in mind that w3m's hacky way of displaying images does rely on the terminal not redrawing that often, which doesn't play nice with st's constant redrawing of itself. What I did was change a setting on my Ranger configuration to make it so the image timed out later, got it to display for about 10 seconds before it vanishes. Honestly though, at this point i'm working more towards getting Emacs Ranger.el to work as a replacement, since I'm sick of dealing with hacky solutions for terminal applications like that. I'd go so far as to say that I'd love to have a ranger-like file browser that just opened a GTK window for it to render soykaf onto properly. It's a hard pill to swallow for me, but in the end, it's better to leave terminals just for text stuff, in my opinion.

>>16513 Yes it is possible. Use Uberzug instead of w3m. Also you may be interested in cfiles (a file manager made by a fellow lainon).

>>16536 >At this point i'm working more towards getting Emacs Ranger.el to work as a >replacement, since I'm sick of dealing with hacky solutions for terminal >applications like that. I migrated form a completely cli workflow to a completely emacs workflow. If Ranger.el is anything like w3m.el it's going to take a bit of configuration to get things to feel right, but after you do you're going to be capable of so much more. For example my w3m always renders to 80 columns rather than filling up the whole screen, has a cache limit so I don't have to kill the process every week or so, the whole browser is asynchronous, it has search engine support, can use ddg without link indirection, has keyboard based clipboard interaction, and can open text form areas in new buffers so I can see what I'm typing for while I'm typing it and even look up new information. I've only run into one site that's rendered worse in w3m.el, but unfortunately it's this one. I'm sure I can write a w3m-filter to fix any problem though when I get around to it. (perhaps I'll start looking into this later today)

>>15873 I've been using urxvt for over three years now, before that I used to use terminator. >>16431 st looks pretty comfy...how do you change the default key bindings, eg: for copy and paste it uses ctrl + shift + c, but I would like to make alt + ctrl + c. Also, can anyone please sauce what colorscheme is this?

>>16893 You'll have to edit the config.h for st. There should be a line such as TERMMOD, XK_C clipcopy Change it to whatever you want then (only change TERMMOD)

Alacritty's nice. Fast, simple interface, easy text file config. Best emulator out of the ones I've tried. Even has an ability to click on hyperlinks (only outside of programs like vim and tmux sadly).

>>16896 Done! But couldn't use MODKEY|ControlMask for some reason.

i use xfce4-terminal. pretty quick and has all the options i need, especially transparency, because lain is my wallpaper and i need to see her all the time

>>16901 >because lain is my wallpaper and i need to see her all the time yes, lain comes first

>>16902 pls firend do you have the text version of this picture? i have a welcome-text that is lain ascii art but much worse quality, and i should make this my new welcome-text. (if not no problem i type it in)

>>16902 Lets all love lain!

Conzole Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!

xfce4-terminal. feels comfy and (((just works)))for what i need out of a terminal emulator

I was thinking in switching from urxvt to st or termite, mainly because as far as i know urxvt doesnt have full unicode support.

I currently use xfce4-terminal, it has everything i need. (reasonably fast, doesn't need fuarrrkton of dependency, has transparency, and a good amound of settings). But recently i realized that i need two different terminal emulators. The problem is, i can't set different font sizes for each terminal session. I'm the most comfortable with 10pt for reading latin letters, but i can't read japanese kanji at that size, i need 13pt for that. And if i set one terminal to a larger size, all my terminals will use that, so i need to use two. Do you have any advice, which is the most similar to xfce4-terminal or which has the aforementioned properties?

>>18118 i love that painting

>>15928 >Sakura >urxvt Those are my favourites. Sakura is underappreciated.

>>18122 You can just use keybindings for xfce4-terminal. iirc Ctrl++ is zoom in and Ctrl+- is zoom out. Alternatively, xfce4-terminal has a startup option of --font. So you can start the terminal with the choice of font. Perhaps use window manager keybindings (for i3, let's say) to start up the different font terminal or use two different entries into your menu (you should be able to edit menus somehow. I'm not aware of DM specific stuff, sorry).

>>18122 Urxvt and st have the ability to change the font size with a plugin and patch respectively. The former is very easy to use. It would also be nice to be able to display varying character sets at different sizes, but I don't think this is possible without some serious font trickery.

I just use the tty. Stopped caring about xorg as I dont really need it to do my day-to-day tasks. Xorg terminals are usually bloated (aka doesnt need to use as many resources as it does to render text on a screen), use some GPU meme, or just plain suck (looking at you suckless terminal. Tell me why I need to patch a terminal to disable bold fonts).

>>18280 I personally love st, but yeah I'm not a big fan of having to resolve issues when I try to patch a new feature.

>>16044 is there an agdg on lain ?