Fediverse thread

Post your fediverse accounts and what you post there. Follow people you like. Mine: KatGoesWoof@mstdn.io Cute, animals, cute animals, tech, random and some lewd. The lewd is usually beautiful, not just hot, and behind the sensitive media thing.

@popefucker@cybre.space there are many lainchan peeps on cybre and quite a few more in the pleromaverse.

@bendersteed@pleroma.soykaf.com not an avid user, but I check in from time to time

@floatingghost@ihatebeinga.live sadposting and garbage images

>>14517 >cybre.space is closed Well fuarrrk. It looked neet

https://mstdn.jp/@karindou I post WIPs and sketches here that I don't upload anywhere else, so if you like seeing badly drawn weeb soykaf then this is the account for you.

>>14568 >0 media

>>14569 https://mstdn.jp/@karindou/media get dunked on lainon probs misread followers as media

>so many pleroma instances are moderated heavily for whatever they consider "hate speech" to be I didn't think there was a place that was more strict than mainstream social media, yet here we are

>>14573 How is it strict? Just join another instance or create your own. No one is trying to stop you.

>>14589 I found one I liked. It just surprised me since I thought a decentralized platform would be all about free speech, not against it

>>14601 there are three sets of people that moved from traditional social media to the fediverse The first are those that care a lot about free speech The second care about controlling their data (probably most lains) The third want a space they can control, as twitter is too "permissive" for them

>>14604 >The third want a space they can control, as twitter is too "permissive" for them this is something i've noticed even with a lot of the tumblr replacements that have been popping up lately. extremely fine-grain permissions and personal moderation keep showing up on the top of the feature lists. i disagree on principle, but i guess it's fair enough. we both want more control over our social experience online... i suppose we can work together on that.

>>14604 actually, they all have one thing in common: a distaste for corporate spaces and a desire to build a space that actually reflects the desires of the users. If all you care about is "free speech" you'll end up with a bunch of jackoffs like GNU social. Pleroma and mastodon etc are so successful because the instances are run by people who are part of the community. Much like how you need social cohesion to keep a free software project together, you need social cohesion to keep a forum together.

>>14606 >a distaste for corporate spaces and a desire to build a space that actually reflects the desires of the users well said. in my mind the definition of censorship is "preventing two people who are willing to engage with eachother from doing so". a platform does not need to force people to listen to things they do not want to hear in order to be 'censorship-resistant'. i personally would not elect to block people who would like to talk to me (or talk to anyone who will listen, including me), but i don't think it is my place to force this personal decision on other people. forcing people out of their bubbles, however well-intentioned that might be, is a violation of their agency.

>>14605 I don't know, the purpose of tumblr is to play show and tell. Whether it's used as a journal, an art portfolio or just a place to show photos of your ass, it's a personal showcase. People should be able to control who gets to interact with them and how if it's considered a personal space like that. Obviously it's not for everyone (I lurk there but have never participated).

>>14604 I'm definitely first and second, though not third. The idea of admins of instances blocking entire other instances because they don't agree with the type of people there comes across as a small child going LALALALA I CAN'T HEAR YOU

is it called the fediverse because the feds can see everything you post? polite sage

>>14606 >If all you care about is "free speech" you'll end up with a bunch of jackoffs like GNU social. Most "free speech" instances I interact with are actually full of very nice people and I don't really see how "GNU Social" (I'll assume you're referring to instances using that software) is in any way different from Pleroma. Mastodon tends to be the most "problematic" in the fediverse (both devs and the most prominent instances). At this point I'd prefer for them to de-federate from other software and just do their own thing.

>>14626 my experience with GNU social is very limited because it doesn't federate well with mastodon at all(threads get wonky), but the one significant interaction I had with somebody in the GNU/Social space was very negative. >Mastodon tends to be the most "problematic" in the fediverse (both devs and the most prominent instances). true, but that's probably just because Mastodon is the most popular. >>14620 they can see that everywhere else on the clearnet too, bucko

>>14517 Closed Too bad, seemed nice.

>>14620 federated universe, iirc

>>14566 >>14632 Yeah there was some lain in another thread a while ago who gave out their invites, but I got to the link too late. Hopefully another comes by sometime soon ...

cheers wya

>>14642 >Hopefully another comes by sometime soon ... 10 invites, expires in 1 day https://cybre.space/invite/ydcE6HqU

>>14646 Nice! Thanks lain

>>14627 >true, but that's probably just because Mastodon is the most popular. Well no it's because of what >>14626 said. The creator of Mastodon has strong political views and wanted a safe space where we didn't have to constantly interact with people who were not as extreme as he was and he dragged a whole load of similar people from Twitter onto his platform. People who treat politics as a substitute for religion and are violently intolerant of everybody else's views are going to create trouble no matter where they are. The funny thing is it's actually Japan that is using Mastodon as a free speech alternative to Twitter. But that's a cultural thing not a political one. In western culture there is literally no difference between drawings of fictional children and real children forced to pose in front of a camera. In Japan there is. https://galattacity.com/bs-entertainment/mastodon-wtf-timeline-ansuz/

>>14646 Aww thank you!

>>14646 Thank you! This looks like a nice instance.

>>14646 Already gone. rip

Hadn't heard of this before, sounds like Webrings for the modern era.

any good way to share music/audio on mastodon aside from video files or just sharing the name of the track/artist and an album cover?

>cloning twitter That's the worst idea of millennium. Web 2.0 was a mistake.

>>14678 >Web 2.0 was a mistake. Amen

>>14662 what other ways were you expecting? Not like there's ways other than that on any platform. Either link them to the video or post the file itself. Same as anywhere else.

>>14646 Any chance of getting some more invites?

N0THANKY0U@letsalllovela.in

>>14686 ere u go luv https://cybre.space/invite/3VSGKomt

>>14723 thanks hun. Here we go: @akatora@cybre.space

>>14723 ere's myn @nerochsvveb@cybre.space

@neko@cybre.space

@caillou@cybre.space

@sickman@cybre.space Just registered

>>14614 Some instances get blocked because it's full of people who post porn/gore without content warnings and especially CP. Your instance saves everything that comes through in the cache and I bet you don't want to get in a big ass trouble because of some pedo. If 250 out of 500 instance users post content like this, I'm not going to filter each user, I will block the entire instance and it will save my nerves, my time and my money since their content no more takes place on my drive. Free speech assumes it exist between people who don't need rules and guards to be nice. It assumes people know how to participate in a dispute and how to be polite. But what you get is another side of the coin. Free speech attracts cancer. This type of people was isolated by the rest of society and they look for a new place to settle in. You are not going to have nice debates and opinion exchange with such people. If instance does nothing with the hatred and /b/ level of soykaftery that comes from it, I'm not going to tolerate it. If they are OK being such asses I have the same right, right? If someone from my instance likes to see this, he is free to join their instance or follow his lads to get their content personally, but I assume most people would like to have a nice place to chill and get fun, not to see negativity and lead disputes with dumb people.

>>14723 tfw not seeing the confirmation email. Guess I'll wait a while

>>14735 I 'm not asking for extremist content, I'm just asking that I don't get removed by some mod accusing me of wrongthink because god forbid I'm not a liberal or approve of every little thing. I'm not over reacting, some instances flatout say you're not welcome there if you share right beliefs or they think you're a "nazi". So I'm glad I found my own place to stay free from this.

>>14743 chances of that happening are pretty low if you stay away from explicitly political instances. But, there are many trans people on the fediverse and that's a touchy subject for them. Just be aware of it.

Lainons joining cybre.space should be aware that the instance generally leans left, and has rules on things like content warnings and hate speach. Don't expect to be able to go there and say nigger because you will likely get derezzed.

>>14759 uh-oh

May I suggest ilovela.in? Instance full of hippies but a lainon runs it.

@feminineforms@radical.town started doing some vlog, do check them out!

>>14768 looks pretty neat, thanks lain

>>14768 Sounds nice, I'll try out both. I haven't touched social media in ages so it feels kind of weird. I don't know what to share.

reinboar@reinboar.space I try to post about either software I'm working on, old tech, and soykafpost with trans girls. I'm fairly active

>>14773 >soykafpost with trans girls fuarrrking yikes!

Why does everyone insist on stuffing their personal identities and politics down everybody's throat at every possible opportunity. Why can't we back to the time when on the internet nobody knows you're a dog.

>>14779 Because that is no fun.

>>14779 > back It was never really a thing outside imageboards. Remember phpBB forums? They were also heavily focused on personal identities. So when you you say "back to the time when on the internet nobody knows you're a dog" you are obviously refering to your edgy teenage years which you spent posting on "we don't talk about /b/ le secret club 4chan".

>>14768 seconding ilovela.in. tight-knit community, generally very small and quiet (four main active users and some others who rarely post) I'm at @seliph there. writing about my adventures with gopher, poems, art, other creative stuff

>>14783 >So when you you say "back to the time when on the internet nobody knows you're a dog" you are obviously refering to your edgy teenage years No, i mean a time when there was a topic and people talked about the topic, without someone stopping every 5 minutes to say "oh btw im trans why is everyone literally murdering me". The way Twitter and clones like Mastodon are designed make it difficult for most people to separate out the various aspects of their personality so you can't join a cyberpunk instance without also subscribing to all the owner's personal views on soy as well.

>>14779 that time is done, eternal september and all that. doesn't mean you won't find those places, but you'll have to dig in the muck for them.

>>14514 Here is mine: @mirro@ilovela.in Mostly programming and weeb stuff.

Hey. It's kashire. I have one here: @Ashton@mstdn.jp I was going to switch but the admin did some stuff for me, so I'm sticking around.

>>14779 based lain poster

>>14787 Well, in the old days people had many different pseudonymous alteregos in the online space and kept them separated, because they cared about privacy. normal people today don't care about privacy and so they don't mind having their identitites fully exposed online under their real names and tied to everything they ever said on huge centralized servers. But I think that many people already start to realize how bad this is. They just have to find out the hard way.

>>14815 Nobody gave a soykaf about privacy in the 90's or early 2000. It was just the cool thing to do. It wasn't cool to call yourself John Doe, but X_xJay_deex_X was. That's all there is. And now it's cool to call yourself john doe, thanks to facebook and the industry of advertisement. But i have no clue what ever made you believe that people cared about privacy in the 90's any more than they do today. If in the 90's the internet was as close to the Wired as it is now, it would behave exactly as it behaves now. It's just people, the difference is, now the cool people at school are also on the internet, which is fantastic, the more the merrier. The only shame is that what dictates where the internet goes at a macro level isn't the people using it, it's whatever is profitable at the moment. A conversation with your friends in private was just a conversation, now it's "A Thing". You always gotta do A Thing. I think this is at the center of what you people are trying to talk about, this loss of authenticity. Conversations online, back in the 90's when 10 people used the internet, were just like conversations IRL. Conversations now, due to pushes from social media to turn life into a product, are A Thing. They're performative, a show, an attempt to get more social gravitas, to seem like the queen bee. I honestly believe this trend will be short lived though. I wouldn't give it 5 years for the internet to slowly decentralize.

i like the idea of the fediverse and how it works.maybe one day i will buy a domain name and host my own private instance and play around with it

>>14819 why one day when it could be today? an xyz domain is what, less than 5 bucks for the year? cheap vps at most 5 bucks a month. if you can't pay, then check out one of the instances, there are plenty of them around.

>>14817 Everything seemed better before, right? >I honestly believe this trend will be short lived though. I wouldn't give it 5 years for the internet to slowly decentralize I sure hope you're right, the ride sure is fuarrrking wild.

>>14573 >>14820 you can also just host a pleroma instance on an old computer at your place. Even a 10 yo low end laptop would do the job.

>>14819 >>14820 Downside is that you WILL spend hours trying to get the damn thing to work regardless of whether you go with Mastodon or Pleroma, so brace yourself for that

>>14824 oh yeah for sure. installed pleroma a couple times, then went mastodon since i had a fundamental misunderstanding of how federation works. might scrap it and setup up pleroma again now that i've cleared that up. also if you end up setting up relays, you'll be downloading all the media that comes from many instances, so that might be something to be wary with 20 GB VPSes that are the norm on the low end.

>>14514 That looks like the goodwill logo

>>14787 >No, i mean a time when there was a topic and people talked about the topic, without someone stopping every 5 minutes to say "oh btw im trans why is everyone literally murdering me". There was never such a time. There were, and are, such places. You're deluding yourself.

>>14773 Oh nice, we're both in touch with the SDF community

>>14723 o no I got 1 day late

>>14514 Cybre.space and many other instances too seem to be a bit too full of feminists and trannies complaining about white heterosexual men. I wouldn't have a problem with them if they didn't talk about it so much.

>>14848 tell them tits of gtfo. the internets shouldn't be a hugbox. i dont care if you're a woman online, that doesnt mean anything and unless you want to expose the part of yourself that matters then there is no need to mention who/what you are.

>>14848 yeah, but you have a choice of signing up for whatever instance you want. it's really about finding the right people for you. you could do one of those hugboxes, or go to freezepeach or sealionclub like >>14857 probably would go to.

>>14857 Doesn't the same concept apply to you? The internet shouldn't be anything. Communities form in different places, and if you don't like that community..shouldn't you be the one getting the fuarrrk off to find your own place? You're complaining that people aren't like you want them to be, doing exactly what you're criticizing in them. There is no ideal world, people are different and mostly don't give a soykaf about your expectations.

>>14857 Oh hey, it's a teen from 2005 who never grew out of his edgy phase

@bread@social.i2p.rocks

>>14857 a lot of them do post tits to be honest.

>>14839 I'm mainly only involved because of gopher, but they're pretty schway regardless

>>14573 Sounds more like Mastodon instances implementing the notorious "blockchain" If you really want to be sure to see everything,rent the cheapest VPS at Hetzner or some other hoster and register a .tk domain for free

@snacks@netzsphaere.xyz Selfhosted with @lucy@netzsphaere.xyz

I'm not really sure what mastodon is supposed to be exactly. Is it just twitter? I was recommended it after tumblr got all weird but it's kind of confusing to me and doesn't seem anything like tumblr. Also there doesn't seem to be any good instances to join and no way to search for one in particular you'd like to start with.

>>15007 Yup, it's essentially twitter for tumblr people joinmastodon.org has a pretty big list of instances.

so many twitter clones damn, this soykaf gets old fast

I made one ages ago, decided to give it a try. I'm bad with social media, it's going to be abandoned tomorrow. https://cybre.space/@morningbird

I started checking out mastodon and other fediverse sites because of this thread and the idea behind it is really cool. I also love how it's all GPL. It's just a shame that they decided to go with the twitter model instead of something else. The character limit and the personal nature of it tends to make all of the posts seem kind of low effort and self centered. I think I'm just going to stick with lainchan for now.

>>15107 Pleroma has a configurable character limit. I agree the model isn't ideal, but other types of software can be implemented with ActivityPub to federate them, such as PeerTube

>>15107 What kind of format would you prefer?

>>15125 I don't have any really concrete ideas for what kind of format i would prefer, but i do have some ideas. I really like the idea of boards, like chans have. I think that without set topics people tend to talk about themselves, which isn't necessarily a bad thing, its just not what I'm into. I also think that being able to like posts is bad for communities because instead of adding to discussions people just "like" and move on. I don't really know how to translate this into a social media site without making another chan or a reddit clone without upvotes. Maybe giving different instances a set topic? What do you think?

>>15121 You're right, peertube is pretty cool. I guess I'll keep an eye on federated networks and see how they evolve in the future.

>>15134 I don't really know, i'm in the same boat as you, I really like the imageboard format, no hassle, no names just content. I do like the idea of federated social media and putting GPL on it, it's a great step and I hope it will have some success. I don't like copying the big social medias because those sites are just made to be addicting and vain but a simple twitter format can be useful in certain cases, perhaps that will come later as a completely different format wouldn't get attract as many people. That being said, imageboard format ftw

@alines7777@mastodon.social socialism, anarchism, communism, being an effeminate little bitch

>>15270 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_anarchism

>>15271 I acknowledge my error. There is no thing as socialist anarchism, it is a category anyway is valid

>>14648 For example, Mastodon did his own protocol to support private message, even if a lot of people said to not, it would make everything harder for everyone. Gargon did it anyways and said to just block every instance that didn't support DMs.

>>15274 >even if a lot of people said to not, it would make everything harder for everyone. It's an extension of ActivityPub. Afaik it's no longer in use now that ActivityPub can do private messages. And no, I don't want to federate with an instance that doesn't keep private messages private. Duh.

>>15276 Yeah but that means a lot about Gargon. And I think that you are definitely retarded. He called to block every instance that didn't support this protocol. And DMs are stored in clear, like a normal toots.

>>14514 @kiru@waifu.social. I'm the admin of the instance. You can join if you want.

>>15277 >And DMs are stored in clear, like a normal toots. yes, because they are normal toots, just not public. If a server doesn't keep my soykaf private, I'm not going to send my data to them. Can you not understand why that might be a good reason to not do a thing? Do you just let facebook know all your online browsing data because "lul they're respecting the standard"?

>>15281 >offline

Are there any federated social media platforms that don't copy Twitter? I dig the idea but Twitter minus corporate soykaf is still trash, it's just a painful thing to use. Even "facebook but federated" or "tumblr but federated" is much more appealing to me.

>>15381 for facebook but federated, go for diaspora

>>15381 There is Plume a federated blogging engine. It is compatible with Mastodon, as both software use the ActivityPub protocol. https://joinplu.me/

>>14548 Hello friend

>>14648 As badly edited as that article was, it's an interesting read and it's funny how things turned out in the end, what with the culture warriors' instances being numerically marginalized and getting buried under under a flood of anime porn from pixiv and oblivious japanese users. I made a pawoo account but aside from porn artists I'm not sure where to find interesting stuff on here.

>>15389 that's because you're on pawoo dingus.

>>15391 I mean on mastodon in general, I'm not stuck looking at pixiv art just because my account is on pawoo. That's the whole idea, isn't it?

Thus far I've created 3 fediverse accounts, 1 mastodon.social account (which got derezzed because I was referring to someone from meatspace as a "retarded whale"), then I've moved to nonfat-soykaf drinker.club, made 2 accounts there and deleted both of them, reason being I just disliked it. I was never too big into social media, I had a zucc account ages ago and I was asked to provide some sort of ID because my name was somewhat humorous. Of course after that incident I gtfo'd from zucc and never looked back. I thought I might dig the libre social media but it's essentially the same soykafe, the only difference being depending on the instance, you can be either an extreme edgelord or an extreme "snowflake" who craves for hugboxes. Where I'm going with this is, I believe that making your own website for b/vlogs/articles/pics/whatever would be a much better alternative. Because at least then it's not a dick measuring competition where you don't have silly things like favorites/reboosts/follows. Libre social media is not as bad as twitter/fb but it's still pretty bad.

Never been big on social media but I'd take the chance to keep up with lainons if someone gives more invites. Kinda wish more people were still willing to just e-mail.

>>15403 you don't need an invite, you can just join any pleroma or mastodon instance. most of them have open registration.

Any more invites for cybre.space?

>>15524 Any reason you want that instance specifically? You can join a different one you like and follow people from other instances.

>>15549 Other lainanons use this instance and I wanted the cyberpunk aesthetic

Are there any search engines for instances? Using tags to search for an instance about said subject?

>>16599 there's fediverse.network but it doesn't nearly fit in what you want

>>15381 hubzilla I stopped following people on mastodon and similar platforms because they post a million times a day and it's rarely something I'm interested in.

Hell, I'll share mine. se7en@freespeechextremist.com

>>16757 My two cents as someone who tried to use the old GNU Social implementation. It sucked. Pleroma is significantly easier to maintain. It's not surprising that people preferred Mastadon to the reference implementation. Pleroma is popular for similar reasons. It's so easy to run a Pleroma instance. I've never had issues upgrading one.

tng@lambda.fun (made my own instance)

>>16757 100% false claims backed by nothing. Gnu social wasn't able to implement the W3C standard (ActivityPub) because it's dead, so GNU social admins switched to pleroma, nothing else.

>>16772 I think the point is broader than just one person. Mastodon was explicitly marketed as a way for users to control the narrative around them and ostracize people with the "wrong" opinions which greatly appealed to a large demographic of existing Twitter users. Like any social network, the actual technology was never that important. It's all about the users.

>>14601 >It just surprised me since I thought a decentralized platform would be all about free speech, not against it Well, mastodon/pleroma isn't against free speech. You just chose an instance that had rules against "hate speech". That's your own fault and doesn't reflect on pleroma as a whole.

Anyone uses https://accela.online?

>>16809 >502 Bad Gateway

>>16831 Works for me.

What's the best ActivityPub implementation for single-user instances? I tried Mastodon a few years ago but it used to eat a soykafload of memory.

>>16833 pleroma

>>16831 >>16832 Occasionally 504 is just a bitchass way of saying Tor and other attempts to protect your privacy is not allowed.

>>16846 Admin is working on Tor instance, also whem you restart pleroma it takes time to load up, so might be that

this is my fediverse account https://niu.moe/@randomdude

I was not able to resist and I made an account too https://social.homunyan.com/@Anoobispepega

https://waifu.social/kiru You can join the instance too, I'm the admin.

>>17181 I hope you stopped spreading racism and harassment, then. Other lainons, don't go on waifu.social, it has the reputation of being a far right hellhole. There are plenty of other instances to choose from. see: https://fediverse.network/

>>17191 isn't waifu.social muted on many instances?

a7@pl.smuglo.li random crap, use to do a lot of religious things.

>>17192 it is. You won't be able to speak with a majority of other nodes from there.

Just made this one for vidya and weebposting @cptcrucias@waifu.social >>17211 If I recall correctly, users on other instances can see your posts if they're following you, but not on the full global timeline

Fediverse in my experience is excellent for pictures of anime girls and nothing else.

I'd like to host a private instance to keep in touch with friends, is friendica the best choice?

pleroma is hands down the best choice for fedi software.

I earnestly was looking into Mastodon as this sort of thing really interests me. But the list of categories of instances on the website is so revealing about the community. The fact that "furry" is listed in one of only less than 10 interests. Seriously?? How can you honestly promote your platform to the general public but at the same time completely out yourselves as a bunch of fringe dwelling weirdos? I think it's disappointing that it's nerd culture of hackers that will prevent them from actually effecting any real change on broader society because they continually alienate themselves in this way. It's really disappointing because the ideas themselves are good. But the culture is staggeringly out of touch with the real world.

>>17505 You must have been asleep in the last years. Furries are mainstream now and the only major groups who still hold grudges against them are former SA goons and channers.

>>17510 If you think furries are mainstream then you're just the kind of out of touch I'm talking about. Large internet subculture =/= mainstream. I don't think it should be put in the same list of categories as "art, activism, LGBTIQ, regional, food, gaming, technology, adult content". Everything else in the list I think is acceptably broad and general. It just disappoints me that furry made it to the list because I think it will put off so many people (like myself) who may have been interested. Imagine if there was a category "big tiddy anime girls". Would that be an acceptable category just because there's millions of people who are interested in that kind of material?

>>17511 as a followup thought: I actually think the idea of this kind of fractionating of a community is not a way to build a social networking platform. Faceobok for instance doesn't have categories at its "root" level (if you'll permit me to use a UNIX metaphor). It's just about people communicating with each other; the groups and pages etc is below that. Not at the root level.

>>17513 >I actually think the idea of this kind of fractionating of a community is not a way to build a social networking platform. No, but it's a fantastic way to empower individuals to choose what facets of themselves they present in any given social context. I'm an accountant with an avid interest in bootleg hiphop, hardcore BDSM group parties, and the photography of Irina Ionesco. Publicly presenting my entire self on one unified social network would be a bad idea, for all kinds of social, legal, and professional reasons. Pseudonymously being able to pick-and-choose what I show in any given social context allows me to more freely discuss my areas of interest with others. I value that freedom of speech far more than I worry about any sort of balkanization of social networks. The solution to the latter is simply to make social network software easier to deploy and more efficient on resources, so that anyone can create a new community with negligible technical skills and a few spare bucks a month can start up a social network for their area of interest.

>>17515 I agree with you that having online spaces for particular interests is important. But it seems like a lot of these fediverse platforms are trying to sell themselves as alternatives for big corporate social media. If they're for interest groups to gather pseudonymously then they're not a replacement for corporate social media at all, they're just another forum/imageboard/subreddit alternative. There's nothing wrong with that. But it's not going to make any significant change on the social-media landscape and it doesn't really offer anything very radical in my opinion. I'm much more interested in platforms that can offer serious alternative ways we may communicate.

>>17516 >I'm much more interested in platforms that can offer serious alternative ways we may communicate. I don't mean to sound rude, but I really have no idea what you're trying to get at. I'm reading what you're saying as "I want Facebook, just not *owned* by Facebook." You speak of something that's "very radical" and "serious alternatives". Radical, in what *specific* way? A serious alternative, in what *specific* way? Frankly, your approach here is quite reminiscent of a politician, marketer, or other professional propagandist. Expressions of concern over an issue, the use of vague and high-minded positive rhetoric in hoping for a solution, but also a reluctance to offer a concrete solution to the problem.

>You speak of something that's "very radical" and "serious alternatives". Radical, in what *specific* way? A serious alternative, in what *specific* way? It is radical because it is decentralized and not owned by any individual person or corporation, and in fact you don't need any particular app or server software to use it. It is a serious alternative because there are quite a lot of users.

>>17520 >It is radical because it is decentralized and not owned by any individual person or corporation, and in fact you don't need any particular app or server software to use it. It is a serious alternative because there are quite a lot of users. So you want an ActivityPub service, just with a mass-accepted guideline that people stick to using one account for all their various fields of interest?

>>17520 This is a different poster to who you were replying to. >>17517 What I'm getting at is quite simple. An ideally decentralised but more importantly non-corporate social media to challenge zuckbook. ie: provide a platform for public posting, events, IMing etc, that people would likely actually use as an alternative to zuckbook. My gripe was, indeed, in many ways marketing issue. I didn't like how Mastodon was presenting itself given its stated goals. I don't think that is a trivial matter. I only just heard about Fediverse from this thread and got excited but I guess its not what I hoped it was.

>>17528 that people would likely actually use as an alternative to zuckbook. Meh, facebook isn't that popular anymore and IIRC they're losing numbers. Most people are on instagram now, which is owned by facebook. Pixelfed is supposed to be the federated instagram but i haven't looked at it yet. Thing is, even if an alternative presents itself people won't migrate en masse, if they didn't stop use facebook after all what has been revealed, why would they stop using it for something minor as "here is an alternative". I think the best course of action is to present and develop alternatives, whatever they may be, for people who want them. I don't really think trying to convince people will actually work because alternatives are there but people just can't be bothered with that soykaf, facebook, whatsapp, snapchat, discord,... all of these things have decent alternatives but are pretty much empty in comparison.

>>17535 yeah you're right. I was doing a bit more thinking on this and I agree with you. What's interesting is that people often tend to move to platforms that are offering something new or interesting or quirky. A new fun way to connect with each other. I don't think people started using fb because there was mass marketing campaigns for it. They just used it cause it was slick and new and all their friends were on it. Theoretically I think it could have been an open source thing which everyone went to. Oh well, maybe I'll look into joining one of these fediverse instances to chat to some random lainons.

>>17537 It could have been, but opensource software tends to be later on the scene most of the time. I'm actually impressed with the fediverse, it works pretty well overal and i'm curious to see how it might evolve, what other types of media will derive from it.

I'm a bit confused about how instances work. If I join an instance, does that mean that my feed will automatically populate with posts from everyone on that instance? If that's the case how can I know what one to join if I can't see activity on the instance to begin with. Seemingly a lot of them don't allow me to see posts.

Now that all the big sites like twitter and youtube are banning what they deem morally incorrect I sure hope the flooding of all those won't become too much of an issue.

>>17546 Gab recently announced they will fork mastodon and become a commercial Fediverse instance, like Pawoo. Good for them, I don't care much. If anything it makes them easier to contain.

>>17547 >>17547 I don't really care. Blocking is pretty easy, but this will develop in quite a shitshow nonetheless I want politics of the internet

>>17540 Your feed will be populated with who you're subbed to. There's a separate timeline for public posts on your server. There's yet another separate timeline for public posts across all servers you're connected to.

This isn't perfectly relevant, but is anyone else here running a Finger service? finger://Prince-Trippy@verisimilitudes.net

that's probably all you need to know about social media.

Does anyone here have an account on the sunbeam.city instance ? I understand that there is a admission fee to pay. Is it worth it ? How is the community there ?

>>17586 yeah there is one moron it must mean that 3 million users are bad

>>17586 >taking everything at facevalue. >generalizing bravo

Is there any interesting people in the fediverse or is just anonymous that go there to have fun? It seems that anyone worth following is still on twitter.

>>17592 >>17593 I suspect his point of that the rules are clearly stated but not enforced.

>>17588 I just found out about if from your post. Looks awesome! I've just applied to join. No idea about community but from the outside (looking at the wiki and the plume instance) it seems pretty active. This has got me excited!

>>17618 Ok. sunbeam.city It's not as good as I hoped. Pretty much an idpol anarchist hugbox and a mental health support group. Very boring and stagnant. Are there any instances which are a) not just all anime girls or furry pics and b) not idpol hugboxes?

Mastodon can be okay, but good god there is so much instance vs instance drama for some of the most pointless reasons. I really miss the old days before Will Wheaton started this trend (and not for the reasons you think, they soykaftalked him off the entire platform).

i just applied for a mastodon account, how long do they take to approve someone? what instances do you guys recommend? i'm absolutely new to the fediverse and i'm not entirely sure how it works

I'm usually not interested in social media but I'm glad that the Fediverse and instances like Pawoo.net and Baraag.net exist, since Twitter has become such a hostile place for transgressive art lately.

>>17680 >Twitter has become such a hostile place for transgressive art lately. I know this isn't /hum/ but if you're too extreme for heavily progressive silicon valley platform then you've gone too far and isolating yourself further from normal society is not the healthy option.

Same anon as >>17679 can register in different instances using the same email address?

>>17681 You won't believe how spooked "woke twitter" really is.

>>17680 >Transgressive art nice euphemism for drawn child pornography

>>17682 yeah, each instance is 100% independant

>>17679 depends on the instance, it's usually instantaneous. I would advise you to register on a fairly general instance (mstdn.io , mastodon.host ...) and then see where the koolkids are.

Well some shameless self promotion can't be that bad. I mostly post soykaf I find interesting, but that will mostly be tech and music soykaf. https://toot.cafe/@kati256 or if you just want to copy paste for some reason @kati256@toot.cafe

For those having problems with signing up to a specific mastodon instance, pick another - you'll still have access to people on other instances. Don't like the twitter format? Sign up to Friendica and its Facebook style interface - you'll still have access to people on mastodon. If you're "locked out" from the fediverse because an instance doesn't give you instant access, you're doing it fundamentally wrong. Select a different server, a different system or set up your own. Registration only? Pffft.

>>14514 Is this just about the ActivityPub network or any federated network? I've been on the official /g/ Diaspora server for a couple years now. grey@podricing.pw https://podricing.pw/people/f3c6f9f0e2a201333c38040153c9bc01

I was using Librem.one but swiched to Accela.online, because they have XMPP now and the librem fork of mastodon is so bad. Follow me bane@accela.online

This whole gab drama is getting a bit fuarrrking much.

>>18075 yeah, it's weird being on the "inside" there because it's impossible to actually voice my opinion without getting 'cancelled'. People are overreacting, and you can watch manipulative people try to get clout by strictly policing the range of allowed opinions. You can't believe that neutrality is an option; it's either do what they want, or you're a fascist collaborator. Personally I don't care, as long as Gab is not on my fediverse it's not something to make a big deal over. I just fuarrrking hate to see people using social justice as a way to become the Big Bitch or whatever.

it's hilarious to see that that tranny fed informant rapist Laurelai is deeply involved with Mastodon and the Gab screeching. Should tell you all you need to know about that. https://encyclopediadramatica.rs/Laurelai

>>18275 Someone actually spent time documenting all this? This article is actually larger than wikipedia entry on quantum mechanics and that's apparently hilarious? This is the mental asylum area of the internet. >Should tell you all you need to know about that. No, just no. Get that thing away from me.

>>18275 >encyclopedia dramatica Why would I read anything from that, let alone believe it.

>>18275 The idea of freespeech is being dwindled further and further. Why can't there be a platform where I don't have to deal with anything political/SJW, its just disgusting. I do recommend Pleroma, postActiv or simply GS tho.

>>18282 > I need my free speech! > someone silence those people who disagree with me!

>>18275 what's Laurelei's screen name? I am a very active user and I've never seen her. >>18282 >Why can't there be a platform where I don't have to deal with anything political/SJW, its just disgusting. this is code for "why can't I live in a monoculture where everyone shares my political views and I am allowed to harass people who don't?"

>>18286 >Free speech == harassment So this is how far we've fallen

>>18336 You want a platform where there is "free speech" but not for those you deem "SJW". Think real hard and try again.

>>18336 >wants free speech >but also to silence 'sjws' >thinks he's not political You don't seem to examine your own actions enough to be worthy of opinions about them. Your desire is incoherent. You're welcome to speak freely in the same forum as the people you hate, which is how freedom works. But most Americans have fetishized the concept of freedom to the point that it no longer means anything other than 'the world is the way I personally like it to be.'

>>18336 Free speech == whoever agrees with me Maybe we have fallen because the ones screaming about free speech were the most insufferable people calling for violence

>>18336 You don't want free speech, you just want freedom of your speech. If you want a site that bans a certain worldview you've lost the right to call yourself "pro free speech"

>>18337 I never said that.

I feel like I'm missing out by not being on Mastodon. But then I look at it and I think it has nothing to offer me. Can anyone tell me if it's enriched your life in any way? Aside from giving you something to bitch about, obviously.

>>18392 from what I've read they've gone completely down the american liberal hole and now it's more censored than twitter. Not that I care to say "nigger" freely on social media, but it tells a lot about the kind of conversation that you can have on there

>>18393 The only thing it tells me is that it's moderated and that some set of social norms are enforced. There's nothing disqualifying about that.

>>18394 If you like that type of moderation like they have on extremely left leaning communities like r/politics then go for it, I'm just telling you what I've heard about the bigger Mastodon servers.

mine is pry@niu.moe

@halftough@niu.moe I mostly post jokes/opinions about technology, foss, games and anime.

I feel like these posts sum up Mastodon pretty well.

Some of my writings and other things find their way into the Fediverse and the only reason I learn about it at all is because of HTTP referrers. I've been considering starting a Pleroma node purely for myself, but I don't know the first thing about this and how it would or wouldn't fit in with my website, which I wouldn't want to change to accomodate Pleroma, Mastodon, or anything else. Further, it seems like most instances want me to enable JavaScript just to look through them and search for things, if I see anything at all without it. Is there a convenient way to be an observer in the Fediverse?

>>18432 I should have just deleted the entire thread given its poor opening OP. But it at least it was formulaic, so if you followed the formula and actually posted your account and your interests, rather than complaining about censorship and politics of another platform in this thread, then it would have at least been on topic if not a low quality thread, just like the political compass threads or political meme dump threads of yesteryear. I am not saying lainons can't argue about censorship and politics of social media platforms specifically or in general, I am just saying they shouldn't derail existing threads to do it, and they should elaborate on their opinions, beliefs and understanding instead of spilling soykaf (Rule 4) and calling people retarded (personal attacks , Rule 3) and make new threads for such discussion. Also if you think my moderation sucks and can be improved, then please complain but don't do it in this thread, use /q/ or Mumble or IRC instead. Your post about /r/politics and politics in general was a Rule 4 violation, off topic and derailing the thread.

>>18433 You know what. I do appreciate that actually. Consider this an apology of some sort. >>18393 But isn't the whole point of decentralizing that you can just go to a server where you can say what you want?

I can only imagine how toxic the real thing is if a lainchan post about it has generated such jewels of stupidity.

>>17598 I mostly stay on it because I've been around since the identi.ca days. But I hardly ever post there, nor is there anything of interest in my feed. Most interesting people have gone back to Twitter.

>>18451 It's edgy Twitter, nothing more, nothing less. Useful if you have collect anime pictures imo

I have abandoned my OG mastodon account and don't feel like coming back to it. And I'm looking for a generally chill community where I can just post whatever. What instance does Lain recommend? It doesn't have to be very topical, tho focus on technology would be nice.