Search Engines

What search engine do you use/think is the best? In terms of both privacy and actual result quality. I'm currently using pic related

>>12831 I have used DuckDuckGo for a few years now and I find the stuff I want to find. There are other options like searx.me, which is a distributed system and accumulates result of 70 different search engines, but I got used to the duck.

>>12831 i have a soft spot for funny animal mascots but it loses a lot of functionality with scripts disabled. So I've switched to Startpage, seems good so far, comes with a proxy and everything

DuckDuckGo, because of its !bangs feature. It essentially allows you to search using a website's own search feature. For instance, !4chg thinkpad will allow you to search for threads about thinkpads on a certain popular imageboard.

>>12835 https://duckduckgo.com/bang? Very nice indeed.

I've been finding DDG's results to be pretty bad but I'm not sure if that's DDG's fault or just that the web is general is pretty bad.

>>12838 Same here. I remember it's not this bad when i first use it. Nowadays and only use it pretty much because of the bang.

DuckDuckgo.

>unironically using fuarrrkFuckNo I remember reading that the owner of DDG has already been outed as having sold user data of his former site, not to mention it being extremely fishy when search engine uses a lot of money on commercials to promote itself as if it cares about your privacy. Where is the money there? Not to mention that Google already fuarrrked over another search engine that scraped their results, don't know why they are letting DDG to do it then. Plus what everyone said here already about it having soykafty results. I personally use searx.me because it is decentralized.

>>12831 SearX and DDG are pretty good in terms of privacy, but when it comes to result quality I think Google is the best.

>>12831 I use qwant, and im enjoying it. DDG is a pseudo anonymous search engine, also it's based in the US. No thanks.

>>12843 it's almost like they noticed a market of people who don't like google and went for it. Think about it this way: if it got out that they did sell user data, they've put themselves in a position where they could be sued for everything, due to how their EULA is worded. DDG doesn't scrape only google. There's a big difference there, legally. I generally get best results with DDG. Searx is slow and soykafty and its support for !bang like syntax is pretty bad.

I use searx. DDG's owner previously sold user information.... kind of like Discord's owner now that I'm thinking about it

>>12844 searx is a metasearch engine so it gets the same results as google if you set that as your search engine in searx. The only difference is that you won't be getting the personalized experience.

I am currently usiing my own hosted instance of searx. I am also using qutebrowser where you can say that if your search starts with a certain string you use a different search engine. So I made it so that if my search starts with "!" it uses "https://api.duckduckgo.com/?q=!{}\" as search engine so that I can use duckduckgo bangs and my own searx.

Searx.me, dickdickgo's owner violated his privacy policy once.

>>12835 firefox has a feature like that built in. right click in any search bard and click "add a keyword" and you can bookmark the search and map it to a key that you can use in the address bar. For example, "y lain" will search youtube for lain for me. you can actually do it with pretty much any webpage too, not just searches. e.g. a bookmark for "lainchan.org/%s/" and a keyword of "lain" lets you use "lain mega" to go to /mega/. Of course, it's mostly just useful for searches.

startpage

I much prefer the UI of DDG, but its results are soykaf. I use startpage because better results

searx.me since its a metasearch engine you can be able to get results from google, duckduckgo, bing, yandex all at once. i personally just want google results without personalization and tracking so i was using startpage before but searx has more features. only problem i had was when i search something quickly over and over again after the results. it gaves me an error and i had to clear the cookies and set my preferences again. other than that its great.

I tried yandex for the last few months. Nice results in English. Very poor in other languages (other than Russian I guess). I switched after google crippled their Google image search by making downloading an image more a pain in the ass. Google reverse search is also censored, to prevent doxxing I guess. Honestly I especially used yandex reverse search for porn. It was the absolute GOAT. I felt like I was 14yo again. For like a month it has been crippled down. I guess the massive flow of users alerted their developers and they didn't wanted to become the "porn search engine".

StartPage

>>12831 There is no overall champion. DuckDuckGo has "betterish" privacy (US based), has poor search results and often doesn't list certain things at all in its results because they don't find stuff like forum posts for tech support so easy, but they do also have the best anti-censorship in their results, and the best "true search engine" for privacy, being that they have their own crawler. Or so you thought!! >https://www.qwant.com/ A european web browser, with their own crawlers, privacy respecting, ethical non-tracker ads purely based on search term used, no cookies. Downsides: I haven't used them enough yet to get an impression for the quality of search results, and the ads are in french. Startpage for the "I wanna use google, but I don't wanna use google" moments and people. SearX which is highly customizable and can aggregate search engines of your choice, but the search engine is also buggy and unstable and IMO that, and being hosted and developed by a glitterboy with a sonic the hedgehog avatar on github, makes it a bit of a turn off for me.

>>12831 Run my own instance of Searx. Pretty easy to setup and get going. DDG anywhere else normally.

I used lite.qwant.com for a long time, it was by far the best searching experience I've had; however, likely because I'm not in the EU and wasn't using the full site I tended to get harassed to "confirm I wasn't a robot" at some point I switched to w3m and it became impossible for me to perform the confirmation. I moved to ddg.gg/lite despite the talk of how sketch it is: https://8ch.net/tech/ddg.html ddg.gg/lite also makes it simple for me to search open directories through !g (unfortunately no engine other than google seems to index these properly and have means to search them) this is where I get all the films I watch. My ideal at the moment would be a self hosted front end for google similar to searx but with the UI of ddg.gg/lite, a filter list for domains I dislike (mostly social stuff), remove ads, and perhaps simplified commands to search for opendirectories. I'm quite certain this is possible within searx but I dislike the complexity of the platform and want something simpler. I might dive into the source code and try to construct what I want.

>>13855 Bing, Yandex, & Qwant have apis and Google's custom search api can be used for general search. Additionally I discovered that Bing can more or less also do open directories searches. I really would rather avoid having to change the application I use to browse the web every time the search engine it's based on changes its styling so if possible I'd like to avoid parsing HTML. Qwant has a unofficial undocumented API with unlimited access without a account, but it can change at any point. Yandex lets you use 10,000 queries a month if you create a account but you have to verify with a phone number. Bing lets you use 5,000 queries a month if you create a account. Google's custom search lets you use 100 queries a day if you create a account. As mentioned in the thread duckduckgo has a api but it only works for instant answers and bangs.

>>12866 i get this problem all the time and its pretty fuarrrking annoying. but searx is still the best.

>>13884 >>12866 Unfortunately this is a "feature" of the browser, because the developer is a solo poor user who hosts the primary instance independently, and has gone to such efforts to prevent the server from being spammed, that he ends up making it a pain in the asshole to use for people.

DDG is being schilled on normal user sites, don't trust it

>>13890 Care to elaborate in more detail? How so?

>>13890 that's because duck actually works. searx goes down all the time and startpage went from giving you google's ratfucked algorithm to the ixquick one. google knows they're the main competitor which is why they never acknowledge them publicly, and influence searches on them, won't let them on chrome android, camp duck.com and all the other anti-competitive behaviour. good info forces out bad, you can't fuarrrk the duck.

>>13923 Bing is used way more than DDG. Browser bundling works.

>>13924 I've never heard of anybody using bing willingly

>>13923 Searx doesn't go down, the searx engine you are using goes down all the time, anyone can host a searx instance so just look for a different one, or host it yourself.

>>12846 >"market of people" Said like a true data miner >>13927 >my personal annecdotes and experience trumps real world statistics Sad way to form your perception of the world

>>13927 I use it. The text search is basically on par with google these days but the image and video is much better.

>>13894 Guy who operates DDG sold the data of his previous site users. Not to mention that is seems rather fishy.

>>13855 >>13856 I've been slowly writing a application to do what I mentioned in these posts. It's in C, with mongoose (slightly modified for libressl support) and jsmn (which I either need to modify or swapped because of escape chars). It's built on Qwant's API, and I think rather than adding support for ddg's api as well I'll just program the subset of the bangs I actually use. I'll post the source code here once it's in a presentable state it currently is able to download the API results for a query and present the results as HTML to the query-er but all the slashes in the response are escaped, I'd like to tokenize all the backslashes so that I can handle them when I'm constructing my HTML without copying or having to parse the json response twice. when it's done you should be able to compile it on any platform easily and run it in the background so that you can have a /cozy/ localhost search engine.

>>13951 >I'd like to tokenize all the backslashes so that I can handle them when I'm constructing my HTML without copying or having to parse the json response twice. It's pretty gross but I think I'll actually just mutate the string with the json in place and where the unescaped chars are smaller than the escaped interpretation just insert a bunch of \0. I can't use string functions if I do this, but I don't really need them. I'm not really concerned about the networking overhead because like I said my intention is to have this run locally.

>>13932 yeah, and I've got a professor that used to do analytics on social media datasets and he's the most paranoid cunt going around. come on mate, who's more likely to want a seachange and know the consequences of eroding privacy: somebody in the industry or some random homo on a messageboard?

>>13959 >and he's the most paranoid cunt going around That is not argument for trusting that professor. It is understandable that he is paranoid because he saw firsthand what can happen, but not really an argument for trusting him or DDG. DDG owner sold their users info once, who is saying that he won't do it again? >who's more likely to want a seachange and know the consequences of eroding privacy >somebody in the industry See the language that you use to describe DDG owner? Intentionally trying to get the language away from what he did. Listen, he fuarrrked his users once, he ain't getting my trust again. >in the industry WELL, WHO WOULD YOU TRUST WITH YOUR BABYSITTING? Someone who already killed a baby and knows how it works or some random homo xD I used a homo as an insult on the internet.

>>13967 >DDG owner sold their users info once, who is saying that he won't do it again? because it would be a violation of their own terms of service, opening them up to a huge legal battle that google would definitely side against them on.

>>13969 You do not understand how terms of service works, how market competition or public relations works. You have showed your poor judge of personality by trying to argue for constant trust of untrustworthy party. I am wondering how a person like you is alive without being taken advantage of on a daily basis.

>>13958 things are coming along with the search engine, it's usable on my machine, it's styled the way I'd like it to be, and I've got full unicode support. I ended up implementing unicode primarily using a look up table to convert hex char to int and bitwise to mask and shift everything into the proper slots in the original string, I looped over the whole string length and mutated things into the proper place, it's a slower but far better solution than I was thinking. the main challenge currently is getting (optional) https functioning in case you want to run it on a server rather than local host, (optional) threading once again in case you want to run on a server rather than local host with multiple concurrent users, and implementing the !bangs as 301 redirects.

>>13967 data that was sold by a different organisation, under a different licence, and different model. under the current model DDG would be liable to attack by class action. By your standards nobody with a stake in the web could actually create a privacy product. You want the blind leading the blind. Honestly I wouldn't trust any H O M O S around my kids. I think it's a bad analogy anyway: a child is infinitely more valuable than data on how many times I've searched "tech deck skateboards 2018", "digimon tamagotchi what happend", and "fat indian cheeseball remix" at 4am.

>>14069 >By your standards nobody with a stake in the web could actually create a privacy product No, by my standard you cant actually believe people on internet. You have to take privacy in your own hands instead of blindly following and trusting others. >You want the blind leading the blind I want people to stop following. Centralized power and outgrowth from the main can always be consolidated and won over. And how will you know when that will happen? How will you know when to run away and try to protect yourself? You have to trust them on their word until some whistle blower comes out. >a child is infinitely more valuable than data on how many times I've searched *bane voice* For you. In all actuality, the life of your child, or any child, isnt that valuable as you might think. Individually they might value a lot to parents but only for sole purpose of evolutionary impulse continuing your bloodline. To technocratic authoritarians of future, they dont see childs life as important as all the data they scrape of all society. Google and Alphabet has enough power, right now, to create mayor political shifts. And we already saw that during last elections and their censorship is rampant. Hell, even Facebook had an experiment where they controlled news feed on few accounts to promote election of local government figure. Also ironically funny how you try to downplay the importance of your privacy in a thread solely devoted to search engine for people with privacy concerns. Shows how far you idiots that push this dumb search engines will go to try and argue your way out of obvious paper bag that is the conundrum of trusting a j3w that fuarrrked over his old users.

this thead has become exceedingly disappointing. honestly I'm not sure why I expected more, when people feel powerless they begin to rationalize the position they're forced into and agressivily reject one anothers opinions contrary to that. anyway I got the search term to persist so that's nice.

>>14077 >edgy opinions Real fuarrrking edgy to take online privacy of people to higher standard that individual human life. Might as well have said "muh cutesy wutesy animuls" or "think of the old and disabled". Your "think of the children" false analogy is fuarrrked up for simple reason that it doesn't show perspective. Surely, everyone has personal vested interests like protecting their own children, but fuarrrk if you can protect them at all when their brains are already psychologically/economically/politically prodiled through some social media. Nice way of "protecting" them there. Sure, you don't have a homo didling them but it sure is edgy to try to make an argument that you would rather have that than this dystopian boring technocrats pushing ads and political influence. Sure fuarrrking edgy. >what's the value of ... As I said, psychological profiles can be used either for just purely ad clicking or for even for rigging of elections which might impact society in bigger ways. But if that is a thing I need to outright fuarrrking explain to you, and mention then you are already too far gone. >pragmatic You either don't know what pragmatic means or think it is a nice substitute word for "it's too hard to commit to your beliefs, it is just easier to give in". Lol >less ratfucked by DMCA Keyword less. You are just wishfully ignorant, that's it. I think you understand what I am talking about just don't want to do the legwork in order to protect yourself. That is called laziness buddy. >from a product first perspective duck is the industry leader >product >free There's a saying, and I think you know it so I won't even mention it. >savage mockery Yea, that is why I called him a pathetic current week meme spouter that has nothing to say other than personal insults. >anonymous debate Exactly, personal insults hold no fuarrrking weight in these sort of environments. I tried reddit, can't handle it btw. >>14078 >boo fuarrrkig hoo listen to me whine about quality Excuse me, who are you and why should we care what your opinion is? You can stop looking at this thread if you don't like it? Mkay bye

>>14079 I'm just someone who saw this thread realised I didn't like my options and then started to solve my problem. I'm writing a anonymising front-end for Qwant's unofficial API in C and adding functionality like !bangs. I want to look at this thread because it inspired me to do something and it might have further ideas for me to implement but what I get is barely even a debate you folks are just insulting one another or mocking because you use different search engines of all things. I understand why actually I guess it's just a little disappointing.

>>14080 I don't know, I think he's either severely mentally ill, or he's a spoiler that's supposed to turn any discussion on alternative search engines into a soykaffit. People probably shouldn't bait him. I would not advise you to write it in c. you want something with more robust string handling than c or you're going to spend way too much time pulling your hair out. webcrawler results are functionally the same as a fuzzer. >>14079 if google could really control an election Hillary would have won. in your fantasy land every search engine is gathering data clandestinely and is equally culpable. such a fantasy only serves google who have a radical and documented agenda. https://www.scribd.com/document/390521673/The-Good-Censor-GOOGLE-LEAK#from_embed

>>14083 >I would not advise you to write it in c. you want something with more robust string handling than c or you're going to spend way too much time pulling your hair out. you could say that again, I didn't choose C because I thought it would be best fit for the job (it's quite the opposite). I'm not really making things easier on myself by using a JSON tokenizer rather than a parser which doesn't support unicode, and a http server for embedded systems that I had to patch in libressl support. I'm using it for two reasons, firstly because the only two languages I know well are C and Scheme, and secondly because I wanted a bit of a deep understanding of what I was doing since I'm a bit of a baby programmer and this is a good learning experience. So when I was writing my unicode encoding stuff I learned a lot about bitwise operations, low level optimisations, and unicode its self, writing raw HTTP also taught me a good bit about that protocol. I'm sure while implementing threads I'll learn a bit about how these work on a operating system level. Anyway I'm a few hundred too many lines of pain and suffering in to turn back now. :P

>>14085 I mean, that's cool, but you're not gonna be able to live off toast and tinned spaghetti forever. if you're shunting data around or analysing it you probably want python. if you're doing systems programming you probably want rust (sepples is also a solid choice). If you're doing web you're better off on js/php. and if you just love c (it's a very charming language) focus on it's proper application: get an arduino for embedded workflows, learn how to make a state machine, learn radare and how to stack smash and create payloads, or develop bindings and write library code. and stop thinking of real programmers as people that do autistically difficult things. mostly it's just writing half assed hacks to hit a deadline.

>>14086 I'm not interested in playing the language circle jerk game. your second comment only applies to certain problem domains and not others such as finance or industrial programming for example, regardless I'm not interested in being a profesional programmer at all and certainly not a code monkey.

>>12850 >I am currently usiing my own hosted instance of searx does this do anything for anonymity, or is it just the convenience of having your own specially configured meta search engine? unless i'm misunderstanding, a private searx instance has the same (or comparable) privacy profile as simply using your chosen backend directly. * advantages: ability to drop tracking cookies, strip/alter headers, block elements, etc. * disadvantages: if the search provider makes you register an API key, you're even easier to track than before. am i missing anything? >qutebrowser i fuarrrking love this thing. once someone implements a decent element blocker (a la umatrix) i'm ditching firefox completely inb4 "make it yourself you lazy piece of soykaf". instead of searching "archwiki sshd" or whatever and clicking the first result, i have it set up so that searches beginning with "archwiki" use the wiki's search engine directly. now ddg or whoever has that much less information about me, and i didn't even have to change my habits. obviously you sometimes have to use a general search engine, and it's worthwhile to discuss which one is best, but given the options out there i think it's also worth talking about methods to avoid using these search engines whenever possible.

>>14088 I looked at the searx code before working on my own and looking into individual search engine APIs. They don't use official APIs for the most part and instead rely on scraping the html for data. stripping HTTP requests/responces to the bare minimum gives you complete privacy bar some sort of IP based tracking. If your IP is not connected to yourself for instance when running on a VPS you can not be tracked as there is no way to link you to the server other than by the records of the VPS or proxy provider. Your second point is absolutly correct.

>>14089 stripping http headers to the bare minimum and obfuscating required feilds, and assuming no js, canvas, etc. is being passed from the meta-search to the user. would be a bit more accurate, sorry.

>>14088 qutebrowser is a dream, so comfy, the only thing I'm not a fan of is qt5-webengine requirements because I don't know anything about it but alas that is the world we live in.

>>14092 >the only thing I'm not a fan of is qt5-webengine requirements i'm with you to some extent, but i will admit that it's nice to have the rendering consistency of a chrome fork combined with such a well thought out UI. i remember in one of the old browser threads i made a post saying "i just want someone to wrap a minimal gui around webkit with built-in userscript support so i don't have to use firefox any more" .. well now i finally have it.

>>14088 >instead of searching "archwiki sshd" or whatever and clicking the first result, i have it set up so that searches beginning with "archwiki" use the wiki's search engine directly Not sure if you're aware or not, but if you aren't: you can do the same thing in Firefox with bookmark keywords or with Tridactyl.

>>14087 > I'm not interested in being a profesional programmer at all and certainly not a code monkey. I wish I understood what drives this attitude, or why it's so prevalent in tech. I don't want to be a carpenter but that doesn't mean I size wall studs with a chisel.

>>14088 >does this do anything for anonymity I am hosting my searx on my vps and allthough the metasearch engines can't track my real home ip or stuff like that. They can still track the ip of my vps so they are able to collect data on anything I search allthough they can't serve me ads with that information, they can only give me different search results. I am kinda thinking about somehow routing my searx traffic through a vps (on the vps side) to be able to change the ip every so often giving me thrue privacy. >once someone imploments a decent element blocker I totally agree with you, this and the fact that the build in ad blocker aren't great are the main problems with qutebrowser. >I have it setup so that searches beginning with "archwiki" use the wikis search engine Same here I also have the thing setup I pointed out in my last post where "! aur" uses duckduckgo so that I don't have to setup every single bang, but for the engines I use a lot I implomented "!arch" (without the space) which uses the engine of the wiki itsself.

>>14097 >I'm not interested in being a professional programmer at all and certainly not a code monkey. that statement was in response to this: >and stop thinking of real programmers as people that do autistically difficult things. mostly it's just writing half assed hacks to hit a deadline. nothing to do with tools, as I mentioned I'm not interested in playing the language circle jerk game.

I'm using ddg, since it works with my crappy VPN and asks no captcha

I think I'm going to take a bit of a break from this for a moment. The source is attached, download mongoose and jsmn, if you're on openbsd comment out: mbuf_init(&ctx->psk, 0); if (mg_ssl_if_ossl_set_psk(ctx, params->psk_identity, params->psk_key) != MG_SSL_OK) { MG_SET_PTRPTR(err_msg, "Invalid PSK settings"); return MG_SSL_ERROR; } and the functions ``static unsigned int mg_ssl_if_ossl_psk_cb'' and ``static enum mg_ssl_if_result mg_ssl_if_ossl_set_psk'' in mongoose.c . rename the files I provided to be ``.c'' then compile with something along these lines swapping variables and locations to suite your needs: libs="-lssl -lcrypto -lpthread" cc -L/usr/local/lib $1 -DSSL_PEM_FILE=\"server.pem\" -DSSL_KEY_FILE=\"server.key\" -DSERVICE_PORT=\"8000\" jsmn/jsmn.c mongoose/mongoose.c -DMG_ENABLE_SSL $libs I don't expect anyone to actually use this in the current state, just thought I'd get it out there.

christ sorry. this should work.

I wished duckduckgos onion service would be more reliable. Sometimes I need to refresh a lot of times to get it to load. But when I'm not searching for images, I just use ddg.gg/lite

is there search tool syntax like <strong>search</strong> <em>where</em> <em>what</em> e.g. search lainchan film would return the order by relevance to film of everything at lainchan.

>>14132 code tags failed

>>14132 `retard site:yourvanitypage.geocities.com`

>>14331 I hope it's not serious, because this place shouldn't be this tech illiterate.

>>14333 yea, trusting your search engine that it doesn't keep track on you is pretty stupid seeing how the owner already fuarrrked his old users

>>14331 You haven't added anything that hasn't already been explained far better by other people in this thread. Everyone here knows what http headers and an IP address says about you. Everyone (except the author of that image, apparently) knows what an affiliate link is. There are some legitimate, if redundant, concerns in there, but a lot of it is just a ridiculously uncharitable reading of the situation combined with some degree of misunderstanding of the technical aspects involved.

>>14333 >I hope it's not serious, because this place shouldn't be this tech illiterate. There's no magic fairy stopping idiots from posting here and deleting posts is against the spirit of the chan even if they are retarded. >>14334 >trusting your search engine that it doesn't keep track on you is pretty stupid. Period. ftfy duckduckgo doesn't block Tor exit nodes. What more privacy do you want.

searx.me unlike duckduckgo, there is absolutely NO botnet that comes with it. if you arent ready for full conversion, duckduckgo is a first step into the privacy pond from the google botnet

>>14491 >use searx.me, a single instance of a search engine, that isnt even a search engine ! >Why go to google, duckduckgo, yandex or yacy when you can use Yet Another Proxy that forwards your searches for you ! You can even run your own instance, for the added anonimity of initiating websearches from your own computer ! The one good thing about searx is that it can be run over Tor. But hell, all the other search engines can be, too. The only real, generic websearch engines from the open source community suck. You have two choices: Either give in and use one of the major ones, or quit using websearch. Anyone telling you otherwise is either decieving you or deluded himself.

>>14499 >Either give in and use one of the major ones, or quit using websearch. Anyone telling you otherwise is either decieving you or deluded himself. yup, just use fuarrrking google for everything

>>14506 This isn't true. There are several generic websearch engines published by the community that don't suck, but you do need to host the cluster of machines to run them and you do need to have spiders to crawl what you want indexed. See https://www.gigablast.com/ or https://github.com/gigablast/open-source-search-engine https://www.atnf.csiro.au/computing/software/arch/ http://www.seg.rmit.edu.au/zettair/index.html for more information

>>14507 last I used zettair it kept killing itself if you ever gave it a database over a few mb, last I used gigablast it had some other issues that I also dont entierly recall as its been some time. arch is just nutch + solr, personally I tend to shy away from java these days, but back when I tried yacy, solr didnt seem too hot, either. Maybe this was limited database size, maybe this was low memory, maybe this was a lot of things. I gave it all I had, resource wise. Do these work ? sure, at least in principal. Some might require rather a lot of legwork to get started, maybe patching a little C code, maybe writing a nice web interface if you're into that. All of them would require a large amount of memory, storage, download bandwidth, to run in anything approaching the quality of qwant, duckduckgo, or google. Sure, if you're trying to make your own little site searchable, go ahead, zettair works. Hell even yacy works. If you're trying to index the internet, you've got yourself quite a project. Of course, its possible. The creators of extant search engines aren't gods, but their operators are willing to spend large amounts of resources, in terms of hardware, bandwidth, developer time and setup cost, to make them work and be reliable, current, and relevant. If you want to do that, fine, sure, go ahead. If you make it public I may even try your fruit. I'd love to try it. But let us be aware of the scope of the project we are discussing. This isnt a matter of downloading some random peice of software and hitting play. There is a reason there are relatively few general internet search engines out there.

Duck duck go is a fuicking soykaf because is doesnt rescape your library privacy because is it live in USA

>>14509 This isn't english.

>>12836 >>12832 fuarrrk me that's awesome. I just strated using DuckDuckGo a few weeks ago but this is a whole other bonus. I'll definitely be using !wa for school a lot.

>>14522 >!wa wow noice!

StartPage.

>>15889 no thx

>>14128 I haven't modified this program since I wrote it but it's still the search engine I use every day. There have been a maybe two or three times that Qwant's bot detection has kicked in on me and I've had to borrow a device with a javascipt browser to resolve things, but overall it's been enjoyable. This could be resolved by randomizing the useragent I think, along with the (noticeable) modification of search results. (would probably take 5 minutes to do) I'm moving to w3m-emacs though and this browser has the 'qute-browser style search' functionality so I might take greater advantage of this at the expense of search engines generally.

startpage

>>13931 Bing is surprisingly good. Whenever I realize that something has been censored on google (like pirate streams) I try the same query in Bing or ddg. Both usually have uncensored, or less censored, results. Been trying to diversify though, exploring Qwant and searX.

>>15892 Why wouldn’t you though? Google’s search results are the best there are by far, and Startpage takes care of the privacy issues.

>>15957 To nurture the smaller players. Same reason I try to help mozilla keep their relevancy and market share by using firefox instead of some ungoogled chromium build. I hope this helps give them a tiny sliver of more power in shaping public discourse, standards etc. Doing the same by using ddg.gg/qwant occasionally instead of google also helps them become more relevant.

>>15958 >To nurture the smaller players. Same reason I try to help mozilla keep their relevancy and market share by using firefox instead of some ungoogled chromium build. Not that anon but this is a quite poor example. The Mozilla Corporation gets 90% of their funding from Google and despite their ample ability they make only superficial attempts to give their users privacy. They put up a facade of justice to entice users but to the extent to which they do things better than Google LLC is only to maintain appearances. The Mozilla Corporation have the same bottom line and the same objectives as any other company that's giving away something for free and that is to make you buy something later, in this case by helping the other mega-corps of the internet build a psychological profile of you so they can better manipulate you into being a mindless consumer.

wiby.me of course just a joke

Testing... does based Lainchan allow vpns?

>>16005 I guess it does. DuckDuckGo is also botnet, although not to the same degree as Google. I would either go with Startpage or Yandex. SP is more secure, but Yandex is more convenient, and I'm not nearly as concerned about Putin as I am about the NSA and the rest of that crowd.