The State of DRM and Ownership of Media

If I want to purchase a bluray disk I have to have a licensed player and a possible firmware update to the player. If I want to rip the content then I have to decrypt it and hope the key exists and hasn't been revoked for the release, making purchasing each bluray a gamble. The Digital Copy can expire or not be offered anymore so you may only have the option of breaking the DRM to copy it to your device. Not to mention free/open-source software to crack each bluray doesn't yet exist. MakeMKV is proprietary, and I won't use it. Do media companies want me to be a criminal and copy stuff? Because it sure is easier than going through all these hoops for a movie I bought

>Do media companies want me to be a criminal and copy stuff? Because it sure is easier than going through all these hoops for a movie I bought. Yes, they do. 90% of time it's not worth trying to be fair. If you do care for your show/movie consider buying some merch.

I think what they "want" is to phase out physical media entirely and then expect to sell you the same movies and music online.

>>5581 So instead of owning a copy of the information, you can rent access to it.

>>5605 i'm imagining a not-too-distant future where the only way to "own" IP is to either make it or steal it. everything else will just be paying for permission to look at it.

This a good thread >>5615 >the year is 2020 >the song you made in your downtime gets taken off soundcloud because they wanted to steer clear of the legal battle between your employer and Adobe over who owns the rights to the song

>>5576 The information cartel's end goal is not to make it impossible to free media or to receive freed media, but to make it impossible to buy a device that can playback freed media. That's why the information cartel sneaks restrictions into standards. They know their restrictions can be side stepped, but if they get to a point where distributing non-compliant software or hardware is illegal, then it will be too much hassle for ordinary people to playback freed media. This is why you can't buy a BluRay player that does what you want. This is why the information cartel added proprietary DRM into web standards. It's the "War on General Computing".

>>6110 >make it impossible to buy a device that can playback freed media. This hits the nail on the head, I think Almost every closed-source (hardware or software) player or tool supports EXCLUSIVELY patented formats (and WAV) You will never get something that can play Opus and MKV and Blu-Rays reliably

>>6112 Apple does this. They restrict and blacklist playback of free media and software on ithings and their iOS devices.

>>6135 To a degree. There is some free software on iOS, for example, Safari on iOS does not play webm and mkv, but you have the option to play those formats with third party software like VLC for iOS. And MacOS being a real OS compared to iOS, has plenty of software that plays free media. The list is pretty small, but then again, having to submit your app to the App Store is going to kill any desire to put it there if you focus on FOSS software creation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_free_and_open-source_iOS_applications

>>6110 >War on General Computing does anyone think we stand a chance of losing this one? seems like "general purpose computers" will always exist out of necessity. here's my pessimistic prediction for the next decade: >rip net neutrality >phones are used for the vast majority of internet browsing and communication/social tasks >"entertainment systems" (i.e. game consoles) replace cable TV with DRM-locked streaming services) >laptop (and thus personal computer) ownership craters because almost nobody uses them for anything but internet browsing and watching netflix anyway if all of those terrible things happened, the majority of internet users would be funneled into a DRM-controlled ecosystem of phone/tv apps and hardware locks. general computing might effectively vanish from the home, but there are a few uses that would make it very difficult to kill entirely: >corporate (particularly technical work) >pc gaming >network infrastructure >hobbyists so it's not like ISPs could restrict network access to DRM-locked devices. so what's to stop me from just buying used enterprise gear? on top of that, the ISPs just don't have enough people on their side. they can write laws through lobbying, but they're fighting a war with their customers on one front and most of their content providers (with the possible exception of the big social media and streaming services) on the other. even the upstream ISPs don't like them. if comcast got too restrictive, all we'd have to do is figure out a way to bypass the last mile and peer with these transit providers and web hosts directly.

>>6136 Yeah, thankfully MacOS has the ability to install arbitrary software But the more the ecosystem becomes locked down, you have to realize what it's all vectoring towards They're playing the long game; if they can just keep shifting "normal" as each generation goes by, eventually everyone will forget what freedom is

>>6148 Yes, I have to agree here. My last post did ignore the fact that due to a lack of a proper filesystem, playing video or music not bought or streamed through "proper" channels is pretty annoying and the fact that VLC for iOS is free and open is kinda moot. And no, that silly cloud browser they call a file system doesn't count to me. It's to the point that I have to cut my losses, I thought that when the iPad and similar devices where getting cheaper for the masses that iOS would become way more open and easier to use but I was dead wrong. Next tablet I get is definitely going to be an Android, at least then I can get F-Droid plus the SD card support.

>>6143 You also seem to be forgetting that there will always be a great need for proper content creation systems. Do you really think that digital artists of whatever sorts would be okay to settle with any quasi-assed solution (tablets??? phones???) instead of a proper desktop/notebook PC for their work/hobby? I can't imagine running a DAW or graphic editor on such devices, aside of those dumbed down versions that might only be acceptable for making quick sketches

>>6375 Well I hope your right but the funny thing is that there exist photoshop lightroom for android but not for linux. I'm not sure is it a full version giving everything that a PC version (but I don't really care either).

>>6375 I actually do think that software "creative suites" will continue to move to a network service model, driven in part by the widespread piracy of those particular programs (is there anyone on this site that has ever actually paid for Photoshop or protools?). I do see that as a stronghold though since many artists will refuse to compromise. I was partly thinking of them when I said "hobbyists" but your right in saying that many creative professionals would also reject a software-as-a-service model for their tools.

>>6375 Adobe Suite, ProTools and CoreAudio stack are perfectly compatible with a controlled user experience tho same argument with the gaming These companies drive computer sales, so they're going to find a way to get with the system That's what Apple sells, is boxes that can run content creator software But nothing about content creation requires you to actually have access to the computer; just the specific program you're working in