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I swear one of these days I'm going to wire my lan to fuarrrking telephone poles. Are there ways or hacks to circumnvent ISPs to access the internet? We have to oblige with every soykafty thing the ISP does and every rule they got. Like, some of us can't even use TOR or I2P networks because they will probably slow down the up/down rate. And there's also the fact that it's basically a MITM that spies on everything. Well aside the rant I'm just curious if it's possible at all and if you lains have some ideas or experience. (I don't know if this should belong do /diy/ or /tech/ so mods move if you wish)

The vast majority of wireless networks, especially home networks, use a default password. If they don't it's a weak password. If not, then they still have old routers with literal dozens of fundamental protocol level flaws that cannot be fixed. Even if they are newer there are still flaws like deauthing. Even if basic things like this are fixed, it's vulnerable to a publicly known implementation flaw and the firmware isn't up to date or even supported. You'll only need to try a handful of routers before the default password trick works.

At least where I live, most of the routers I come across are '''smart''' routers setup and managed by the ISP. These would probably be trivial to crack with the right knowledge, but I'm just saying the days of people buying their own routers and setting them up improperly are mostly over here.

>>9895 This is something I think about often, and as of now I have no solution. But when these major corporations own the internet (which should be a public utility..) we are completely at their mercy. They can do whatever they want with zero repercussions. I don't think humanity will ever truly be free until we have a free and open decentralized internet infrastructure, and so of course the powers that be are going to do everything in their power to make sure that never comes to be. Meshnets are a cool idea, but it falls apart outside of larger civilization. But I can't help but think it is an idea that can be built on. But to do anything pro-freedom in this soykafty world would require jumping through all sorts of hoops designed to quash human spirit and dignity with every faceless political hack trying to shoot it down to please the man and line their pocket and further contribute to the enslavement of the human race. This thread reminded me of a thread I want to post one of these days so I'm going to think that over.

This is more a /sec/ question id say but some solutions are /tech/ or /diy/. No experience but I have some ideas. Just using a VPN hides what you do from your ISP beyond the data usage and that you are using a VPN and if you are using a torrent. Worst they could do is throttle your internet. Though of course this passes that info onto the VPN so it's a tradeoff. Only way to fully bipass is set up your own ISP going through legal channels to register it (this isnt the early days of the internet, you likely will get found out if you do this illegally) which cheapest way to acomplish this is to set up a DSL ISP i would assume since you could use existing phone lines but that puts you at mercy of the phone companies. Otherwise just connect to an existing meshnet or start one which could be done wirelessly or if you have resources you could do it with other connection methods. There is one other option most people dont bring up which is load balancing using multiple ISPs. You could acomplish some aspects of what you want by having trusted neighbours share their internet with each other using a program to help. It will take each request and split it up among you. Just make sure you all use a different DNS than the ISPs ideally the same one so the DNS lookup isnt logged on multiple places. This should mean anything only derezzed or throttled on certain ISPs will be circumvented. I'm unsure but I think in such a system you could pair it with a self hosted VPN so the ISPs and cant see exactly what you are doing as well which wont hide your location well but because the shared connections there is some deniability on who requested what without computer forensics to prove it.