Leeching as a cyberpunk lifestyle

Aight, this thread will be about leeching. What do i mean by this? Basically, everything one can do to profit from society's fruits, without giving back. It is a more radical form of the protest by non-participation, and aims to destabilize Society by taking energy out of the system, thus slowing it down and leading to gradual breakdown of system components and, as an end result, the entire system. Leeching can take many forms, be it the simple act of stealing gas, stealing books from the library, utilizing public wifi and power outlets, taking public resources a simple example being toilet paper and soap from public restrooms , dumpster diving this being an increasingly acceptable form of leeching , and many others. If you have experience with the leeches' lifestyle, and are willing to share, post your experiences, tips, tricks and strategies to extract as much as possible from the society we are living in.

If you want to "leech" off of society then start with welfare. Stealing books from library is nothing but lame, this is why when you see a payphone that was changed into mini-library its usually empty, because homeless people steal all the books and then try to sell them.. inatead of dumpster diving i'd recommend just going to civic amenity site with something and taking few things (don't show it to the people working there, they usually don't permit it), because things you find are usually mostly working and you can fix or salvage them easily (got a nice CRT, which just had all the electrolyte capacitators dried up) If you want (relatively) cheap VPN server buy a raspberry pi3, setup wireguard and some free ddns and when you get into a hotel/motel/.. with free wifi just connect the rpi to the wifi. I did this on university so i have 3 fast private VPN servers at almost no cost, just make sure to hide them properly More ideas: keylogger on public pc RFID copier - get acess basically everywhere, free public transport,... A lot of vending maschines that support paying cash & bank can be fuarrked over by first buying the cheapest thing with cash, then smashing the start/pay button on card terminal, that usually takes the price that was last in the "memory" of the cash paying mechanism, therefore allowing you to get anything for the lowest price (still have to pay with card) Pretty sure some of those phone charging stations can be easily lockpicked

If you want to "leech" off of society then start with welfare. Stealing books from library is nothing but lame, this is why when you see a payphone that was changed into mini-library its usually empty, because homeless people steal all the books and then try to sell them.. inatead of dumpster diving i'd recommend just going to civic amenity site with something and taking few things (don't show it to the people working there, they usually don't permit it), because things you find are usually mostly working and you can fix or salvage them easily (got a nice CRT, which just had all the electrolyte capacitators dried up) If you want (relatively) cheap VPN server buy a raspberry pi3, setup wireguard and some free ddns and when you get into a hotel/motel/.. with free wifi just connect the rpi to the wifi. I did this on university so i have 3 fast private VPN servers at almost no cost, just make sure to hide them properly More ideas: keylogger on public pc RFID copier - get acess basically everywhere, free public transport,... A lot of vending maschines that support paying cash & bank can be fuarrked over by first buying the cheapest thing with cash, then smashing the start/pay button on card terminal, that usually takes the price that was last in the "memory" of the cash paying mechanism, therefore allowing you to get anything for the lowest price (still have to pay with card) Pretty sure some of those phone charging stations can be easily lockpicked

No reason to steal gas when you could legally and free pickup waste cooking oil to filter and convert into biofuel.

There is lots of power outlets and semi open power lines, all one needs to do is get a powerbank and glue it to a usb charger then plug the thing in and get it when its full. You could get a lot of juice for free, if youre willing to lay cables and soykaf. But i never had time for that really. Obviously getting stuff out of dumpsters, you can live like a king if you scout out the trash. I can understand sabotaging the system, but stealing from public toilets is bellow the belt imo.

If you live near high-tension electrical lines you can steal electricity purely through induction.

>>7711 idiot here, how did you get the ports forwarded to the hotel router? Does the ddns do that for you? also, what ddns did you use?

>>7713 yeah but that's illegal, so it just depends whether you want the illegal action to happen when getting the gas or when using it

>>7713 yeah but that's ill*gal, so it just depends whether you want the illegal action to happen when getting the gas or when using it

>>7716 isn't the induced current too small to power even a USB soykaf?

>>7812 be careful with that, cuz a lot of complotists think electric lines can fry your brain or some soykaf like that. I know that induced current in the body when you stand under high-tension lines is too small to cause any short-term harm, but I'm not sure if it's different with induced current in something designed to receive it.

>>7829 >be careful with that, cuz a lot of complotists think electric lines can fry your brain or some soykaf like that. its definitely not that >induced current in the body i mean if you leave a reel of cable near high-tension lines, for example, touching it could kill you. watch this: https://youtu.be/u2Ub4U_IqOE

Work for cash, barter, or for non-traceable crypto, report low income, then: get free healthcare, food stamps and scholarships, tax credits, down payment assistance, and on and on. This is basically the Classic option. Stealing toilet paper is good practice for this attitude but definitely small fry in terms of public resources. Fake Americans with family and connections in certain less-developed countries only: take out a bunch of student loans, credit card debt, and possibly even SBA loans, live for free for a decade being a permanent student, cash out as much as possible, then return to your home country and never come back. Have house or car, overinsure it, have a tragic accident happen that requires an insurance payout. Hard on house, easy with car by just parking it somewhere that floods. Buy a house in a state with full bankruptcy exemptions for homestead, pay it off by taking debt in other places if necessary, have a ball with credit cards, declare bankruptcy, keep the house. Make sure you "work" in a field that will let you declare 30k of electronics or tools or whatever as tools of the trade. Be careful and know how to not make it look like "bankruptcy abuse". This will be stressful if you are not completely shameless. Either be or get married to some kind of MFDV (Minority / Female / Disabled / Veteran, ideally all for) -- first get a free job, then make a company to get government contracts and just farm them out to whoever for a 10% cut. Are you in the military? Do you have ED, PTSD, or any other difficult-to-prove disabilities? The answer is yes, you do. Enjoy the free money! Hopefully you joined the Air Force and spent five years in an office doing work on computers or something to have skills for future work. Enjoy your free college.

>>7856 Despite all bullshit claims by scientist little is still understood about the collective effects of longerm electromagnetic radiation in organic beings. I wouldnt speculate my life on it, there are strange effects out there in this whole twisted mess of free electrons and i dont discount freak resonances and intereference patterns that are yet to be discovered to have unknown effects on tissue. The butterfly effect is real and all it takes is but one free electron to hit the right spot and a domino effect could happen, now i know such a probability is extremely low, but with this much free radiation in the air things are bound to happen eventually.

>>7863 >the butterfly effect is real "the butterfly effect" is a colorful name for the much more scientifically accurate statement "things are difficult to predict and events don't have clearly defined causal chains".

>>7863 >>7864 also in terms of amount of free energy, most people are exposed to several million times more EM radiation from sunlight compared to EM radiation from electrical wires or antennas, and that does cause a huge amount of cancer. also >all it takes is but one electron to hit the right spot wires don't literally transport electrons and electrons are not carriers of EM energy. Photons are. You'd be hard-pressed to find *any* free electrons anywhere, the only technology I'm aware of that used electron beams was CRT monitors.

I think dumpster diving is discussed pretty frequently on this board, so I could probably look elsewhere, but does anyone have some good resources on it? Even something basic. OP mentioned it, and it seems like a pretty key part of leeching (also pretty /cyb/), so I figured somebody would've posted something about it here by now, but I guess not.

lainons how do I get welfare if I haven't had a job before? I'm a NEET looking for some spending money. Live in Louisiana which is like kicking dead whales down the beach ass for welfare but still enough for a few things here and there. Any suggestions or tips?

>>8483 as far as i can tell living off welfare is basically a meme in the US. maybe if you can find someone who lets you live with them for free you could do it?

>>8484 Yeah I already do that just want some spending money.

>>8483 Like the other anon said welfare isn't enough to live on your own and usually they'll have you join a program to look for jobs while on it. You can aim for disability, but that would ruin a lot of opprotunites for yourself by labeling yourself as a disabled, plus you'll probably need a very long trail of paperwork and notes from doctors to get approved. Not worth it for "spending money" unless you're fine with not being able to work in certain fields, gun license, etc.

>>8485 people who live off welfare basically do that as a full-time job. The gov makes it really hard to get those benefits (you need proof you're poor and whatnot), so ironically the only people with the patience to get enough to live off are those trying to game the system.

>>8483 If I remember correctly, you should go to a psych ward to demand them holding you because you want to kill yourself. This will cost you your right to own a gun for the next five years. When you apply for welfare you have a document to proof that you are mentally to broken to live properly and getting paper is the only thing that matters for most bureaucrats. Of course bee cheeky.

>>8500 > hipster implant What is a hipster implant? How does it leach off the fruits of society?

>>7710 I just want to point that what is in P's picture isn't leeching but bypassing a security that exist to protect your life and your belonging. The fusibles have been removed and a wire is used instead, meaning that in case of a shortcut, something is going to start a fire and if the current goes in your body, you have very real chances to die. Fusibles are cheap, appliances aren't, homes are expensive and life is precious. Do not cheap out on fusibles. >>7806 It depend of the size of the loops you use, but unless you live directly under a power line (which is bad for health) and have a car sized solenoid, then you won't power anything, ad no one whant to do all that just to get a few watts. >>7812 This is different. You are using the electrical field to get a voltage. You need a close proximity with the lines to do it, which, well, is dangerous. >>7829 Even EDF the French electrical company admitted living directly under a high power line raise the risk of leukemia. >>7863 >all it takes is but one free electron to hit the right spot and a domino effect could happen, No. One neutron can do that, and only if it have enough energy, not an electron.

>>7711 The anarchist cookbook. >How to make a bomb with floppy disks >To make a credit card fraud, wait until someone want to pay with one and listen at the clerk as he take his phone and vocally say the numbers of the card to the operator to get a merchant number >Ruin IBM computer by removing the hole cards from them >Fertilizer bombs with product that aren't slod since the 90's. >Use a phone book to find someone address >Light bulb bombs >The dream of every haxxor, started as a joke but finally made real: the phone jammer! Need to be connected to the cooper pair. >Steal autoradios in the cars! >How to make dynamite from nitroglycerine you can buy in a drugstore >How to break a modem >Hacking tutorial: what is hacking (an IBM story) >the tutorial is just social phishing >How to find a carrier tone >Advanced haxxor elite tricks: what is an honeypot? >Jackpot an ATM machine by cutting it's wire and connecting your own computer to them. The information they exchange aren't encrypted at all.

>>8512 Okay, first I think you should have clear ideas on who is going to pay for your lifestyle. Will it be some marts that make hundreds of millions by overcharging consumers and paying clerks a minimum wage? Will it be Amazon? The state? Some random dudes who have the entire system on their back and who won't even have the liberty to fight back because the entire system won't survive if they don't stay docile? What is your target, OP?

>>8514 >Target it can only be the lower participants of society, the ones who keep the system running with their work. Targeting the higher ups is a game that doesn't work because of the effects being passed down the chain, so every blow to the higher ups necessarily is a blow to the lower classes of society. I do not claim to have a political orientation or a grand goal, but i have the belief that crashing the current system, forcing a cold reboot, a restart, is the only way to see an actual return to normalcy within my lifetime. But i digress. The thing is, i (and many others) can only strike low. Believing that i can make a change on a grand scale by taking on the rich head on is delusional. And believing that bringing collapse to the system is a noble goal is also delusional. I do not believe in some nobility or moral, but i wish to destroy for my own egoistical means, because i believe everything has gone to Sh!t, and i do not wish to live in a world that has gone to Sh!t. To be more clear: The companies who provide service and goods will pay. If they will pay more, they will want to compensate for that, and therefore living will get more expensive for the average joe, and therefore i will be damaging the regular people. I embrace that fact and i'm perfectly fine with that. That's what being a leech means after all.

>>8515 And you think that making minimum wage slaves's life even worse is going to lead to a revolution? It will just make some poor souls even poorer. The system will still have the same energy to run on.

>>8512 >The act of taking for free, instead of buying stuff is really always a form of leeching, and it does not matter if you steal an apple from the store, or fish it out of the dumpster after the store had to throw it away because of health and safety guidelines or store policies Holy bootlick, batman!

>>8516 A revolution is undesirable. A complete collapse is the real goal. I do not wish for an alternative government in charge of the current system, i wish for the current system to crumble down and disappear. And running the poor into the ground will accelerate the decline, because it is their backs that the system builds on. >>8517 What is that even supposed to mean?

>>8518 >it is their backs that the system builds on. Correct. >And running the poor into the ground will accelerate the decline Incorrect. As long as they can have a home/community housing/sack in the slum to live on and enough food on the table to stay alive and productive, history show that a collapse won't happen. What can, and is very likely to happen is the debt crisis, but not in Greece, Portugal and Ireland, small counties inside a strong economical zone, but in the US, France and Germany. Make the state spend money. Spending public money is an addiction that democracies can not cure. Pure coincidence: it's the easiest way to leech. Go NEET and grab that autismbuck.

>>8520 >Make the state spend money. Spending public money is an addiction that democracies can not cure. How can citizens deliberately make the state spend more money? The simple method is to vandalize public property, but that's illegal. Are there more subtle methods?

>>8521 >How can citizens deliberately make the state spend more money? It's called the end of nationalism. People no longer identify with their nation and do not vote for what they think is their nation best interest but for what will benefit them personally. Grassroot leaders in minorities areas are a great example of that. Vote for this guy: he will give us this and that. As a result, no politician can have people to vote for him if he want to save the state form the incoming default of payment. State spending is an addiction, one that have claim the life of many powerful nations. >Are there more subtle methods? Yes. You can advocate for more inefficient ways to do things, like solar panels, wind turbines, more and more regulations, ecology is an endless gold mine for it. You can also try to make it harder for cops to arrest criminals, for more taxes on everything. Imagination is your only limit.

>>8524 >>8524 >It's called the end of nationalism. People no longer identify with their nation Good >more inefficient ways to do things, like solar panels, wind turbines Which are objectively more efficient, lol

>>8526 >Which are objectively more efficient, lol And that's why poor countries build them and not fuel power plants, right? My country have spent 100 billions € in renewable and it produce 4% of our energy. We also spent that sum in nuclear and it produce 70% of our electricity. And it don't need gas power plants as a backup. Say, you want to vandalize the bus stop. That's small dick energy. How about closing entire perfectly functional nuclear power plants with several reactors?

>>8527 >And that's why poor countries build them and not fuel power plants, right? Being poor is expensive, you can't afford to have better things because of the initial costs. Same reason why people buy cheap boots that fall apart in a year and end up paying more than if they bought one nice pair of boots. >My country have spent 100 billions € in renewable and it produce 4% of our energy. We also spent that sum in nuclear and it produce 70% of our electricity. And it don't need gas power plants as a backup. Which country?

>>8528 There is a thing called borrowing money. If the cost of energy was what you were told it was, it would be cheaper to build renewable on borrowed money rather than to invest in coal or fuel power plants. Poor people buy expensive boots because they are poor for a reason and that reason is often poor judgement. Cheap boots that last a year cost less per year than good boots that last 5. France. We have almost 90% of our electricity being from uncarbonated source and we raze forest and create undestructible waste with windmill to close the nuclear power plants. Tell me more about breaking trash cans in the street to drain the economy to the ground.

>>8528 >which country probably germany, greenpower central. It's a statement that is probably built on old data, because it's about 40% now. The huge problem with renewables is the same one our ancestors faced in the middle ages: wind doesn't blow, mill doesn't grind. We're completely reliant on the weather, so if we don't have backup power in form of fossil fuel burning power plants, we're fvcked. We cannot even solve this problem, because we literally have no way to store the vast amounts of energy needed for keeping the country running. It's not ineffiecient, it's simply not working. >Being poor is expensive Actually, being dumb and not caring for your things is expensive. I can buy a good pair of shoes for the price of a cheap pair of proles-stompers and, with good care, those last me 5 years or more.

>>8545 Windows XP is a better OS than win 8/10/11, and this is an objective fact. It is far more user friendly, is easier to configure, doesn't force a metric ton of telemetry on it's user, and doesn't force updates (it didn't do so even in its prime), basically: it works in a way that is desirable for it's user. The only better option would be a well put together Linux distro, that has been idiot proofed and approved by governmental agencies for use by it's employees. Windows XP is often regarded as the last good Windows, or even the best windows of all time. It would definitely be an improvement over whatever cr4p is running now. I personally prefer Win7, but that's just me.

>>8546 I somewhat disagree, if anything Windows Vista is far superior than 7 (which 7 is just vista 6.1 with less graphics memory allocation for 2007 GPU/RAMlets and more cyberhump on top). Debloating windows 7 services/telemetry is also a pain in the ass and it doesn't even disable since the checkboxes are greyed out or it will say you don't have enough permissions to disable the spyware telemetry (cannot be disabled). I have more graphics performance running graphics software on Vista VM than windows 7, plus it is far less bloated, Vista home has less of the bloat that 7 had and even less telemetry (you can just manually sideload things like gpedit) XP is great but it can't run most software, although same thing could be said with Vista, though the amount of telemetry, bloat, and lag that windows 7 has isn't worth for the software support especially when I would use Vista only for specific purposes.

>>8518 Not really cyber but simply lowlife -> Litter More specifically decorate the asphalt with glass. In terms of recycling in the U.S. Much of the time it isn't really worth the time and gas to even visit a recycling center. This also earns a extra stars for eventually causing flats(literally) down the road. With this in mind, this aids and addresses the collective collapse we are craving Another effective method of vandalism/leeching(because we do derive a certain amount of satisfaction from doing this since we are sick fuarrrks) is puncturing the tires of parked cars. I used to do this more than a few years ago. Usually i did it at night and only once during the day, all that is needed is a sturdy knife(with a decent point) and not being a fatass. Usually would target cars parked a ways away with little pedestrian traffic. Usually I would jam the knife just in the middle where you would usually see the big logo/brand. With that, I heard to avoid puncturing all 4 tires since insurance is likely to pay it if that is the case but if not car insurance will not cover it. Dont know if that is bullion but just felt like mentioning it. A very inconspicuous manner of leeching is while doing your necessary grocery shopping, is to visit the local dairy or freezer aisle grab a few things here and there before checking out leave these very perishable items simply out to melt since you of course are a very fickle customer(may get you derezzed). Another leech I recommend but haven't tried is pellet gun vandalism. Pellets have the benefit of being pretty untraceable since the pellet disintegrates at least to my modest knowledge. BB guns are probably as effective but too much a liability. Here are some videos for inspiration https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=O4zLmTgs0jg(my favorite) https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=iCk6kKaJGoo https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=kBusdkaaeyc(I think we have a hero) https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=fPymbcc2fBw(Guy knows his camera angles and finesse) https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=OPGYm69_KV0 https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=x-GlblMFivM(slow process to investigate/prosecute) https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=4Sdo047ubbg(learn from their mistakes,try not to use a car.Also fuarrrk old people...... rambling acres lol) https://invidious.snopyta.org/watch?v=I8XkFHktzA4(not pellet gun, but wherever credit is due) here is some additionals https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pellet_(air_gun) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Air_gun Now there is another very cheap method of vandalism in a similar vein which is to freeze eggs and then when it comes to "egging" a house, you are effectively shattering any windows of your victims. Am requesting from any lainons is share any effective leeching methods when it comes to the workplace apart from the occasional missing pen, "accidental" product damage and long bathroom breaks.Any actually effective workplace sabotage/slowdowns? Also anyone actually know how to crack a neighbors wifi? Last request from any lainons, could use help/advice on how to steal street signs and the names on the street. The signs are usually bolted into the post itself and getting access to the bolt or nut holding the sign in place is impossible since it is inside the metal post. Getting access to the street name(the top of the metal post) requires a stepping ladder at the minimum to even reach it(dont know what specific tools are needed to detach the sign from the post). The only relevant tool I have is a crescent wrench and not sure what other tools may be effective. Could use some help with this lainons. I appreciate any help in this

>>8561 >leeching/vandalism These are two different things, and since this thread is about leeching i don't see how stealing road signs or breaking soykaf would actually benefit you in any way, apart from taking useless risks of getting caught and punished for stupidity.

>>8568 I think they mean this in a "helping other people" sort of mentality through getting them insurance payouts? Other than this I agree with the fact that its really stupid

>>8561 Just breaking stuff has no effect on the overall functioning of the system when people can just their stuff fixed. Thousands of people would have to be participating which isn't likely unless your country was occupied by a foreign army or something. Then it would be seen as "patriotic".

>>8568 >These are two different things Nah, get off that sybian, plebeian. >>8569 >I think they mean this in a "helping other people" sort of mentality through getting them insurance payouts? Nope, how you came to that conclusion about "helping other people" , i havent a clue. This is merely indulging and hastening the decay of the systems currently in place. >Other than this I agree with the fact that its really stupid Police dgaf about property crimes, let alone solving crimes. They are there as an implied threat and deterrence. I do agree with the fact that your post is really stupid ;)

>>8577 Doesn't seem like you need broken glass if you're this edgy already.

>>8578 Rather have an edge and be sharp than be dull and a dullard like u Thanks for the compliment btw :P

>>8508 >they're tasty and it's a fun hobby Very detached from reality if that's your vision of being able to live outside the society, you could follow your own advice and see if you could manage a week in wilderness

>>8508 >go fishin >all the rivers and oceans are polluted >what few fish still exist have to be bred so they don't die out from overfishing >have to choose between being harassed by cops on public land, shot by landlords on private land, or pay taxes in my own land >gubbermint declares my shack unfit for human habitation and forces me to pay rent or become homeless Yeah, so easy to live off the grid.

>>8610 This is interesting, I really wanna follow this line of thought: What if, instead of going off-grid, I wanna go inhabit a derelict ruin instead? I know about squatting, but that more or less requires a commune for protection and enforcement of the claim on the building. What if I squat in an abandoned factory or workshop instead? Building a living quarter in an old elevator shaft? Settling in a factory hall? What would I need for that, any ideas?

>>7711 >The Anarchists Cookbook i was hoping this would be a neat cookbook for foraging food in my local area and making nice meals with it. i dont care about making bombs :/

>>8627 There is a Green Beret Cookbook, that's probably what you want. It was unofficial but written by one of the real guys. It even had recipes for mmm... delicious long pork.

>>8626 Running water. A way to block the wind. Light. A place to soykaf.

>>8627 Honestly, just start learning about your local medicinal and food plants and herbs. That's how I got into the foraging ordeal, by learning how to cook simple stuff like dandelions and stinging nettles in a way to make them palatable A common herbal handbook for your area is enough to get you started, and then start using a search engine to look up individual plants. If you want, use zlibrary, you can find pretty much anything your heart desires there. It has a daily download limit, but it's not that bad (5/day). Pro-tip: nettles are stupid delicious as a spinach replacement. Just cook the leaves like spinach, the cooking water can serve as herbal tea.

>>7710 >stealing books from the library That's not anarchist at all. That's just depriving the collective of something others might need. >Stealing toilet paper and soap from a public place Ok you are just a low life scumbag

>>8929 mate, the thread title is "leeching". This is literally the thread to discuss how to be a low life scumbag.

There isn't any amount of leeching any random person/people can do to destabilise society if you live in a society that has basically achieved post-scarcity. In terms of leeching from public resources, those resources are kept so desperately austere, its theft couldn't possibly affect the upper echelons of society, only society's most impoverished. The true leechers in society are corporations and billionaires, Musk for example is sucking millions out of society by snapping up government tech tenders and investing it in wild product "reveals" to drive up his company's stock prices. Money that could have been spent on heart surgery to keep someone's father alive past his 40s, has instead been spent on putting a dancer into a suit that looks robotic so Musk can declare robots will be a reality... someday. That's being a leech.

>>8580 Counterfeit notes might work a few times, but eventually you'll attract the attention of feds who are on that soykaf in no time. Local stores will be made more aware as well. It's really not worth the risk considering it's a felony and you can't use that much at once. There's almost no counterfeit money that isn't immediately recognizable on second glance

>>8631 can you recommend any books and internet sites? Also do you just pick them inside or outside of a city? I would be kinda scared about contamination.

>>7710 You're going to end up burning your apartment by doing that anon, I hope you know exactly what you are doing.

>>7808 It is illegal the uk became your not buy diesel your not paying taxes on diesel Therefore using bio diesel in the uk is tax evasion

>>9299 Did you have a stroke while writing this? Anyway, so long as duty is paid it is completely legal, there are several companies that do this commercially in the UK and its all entirely above board and fairly straight forward licencing wise. As a practical matter if you are refining the oil for yourself and your immediate family only nobody is going to come looking for the money.

>>7710 > stealing books from the library Incredibly brave. Down with the system!

Stealing from the library should cost you a finger, not from the criminal justice system but more like a non-lethal lynching carried out by the community in a public place. With a dull blade so it will hurt more. Steal from somewhere else, you filth. >>8492 Not here. Here the initial challenge is not that they make you prove anything but that their own bureaucracy is so mired in red tape and understaffed. Once you get the benefits, this works in your favour because the money is deposited automatically from then on and they don't have the human resources to pay attention to you anymore. The trick after this point is to never contact them for any reason, as this only draws attention to your existence.

>>9301 >it is not illegal to use biofuel it is illegal to not declare it to the tax authorities Yes. >As a practical matter if you are refining the oil for yourself and your immediate family only nobody is going to come looking for the money. The traffic police do have equipment to sample the fuel in your tank. I remember a Road Wars episode where they pulled over a guy and detected a cocktail of motor oil and other soykaf in his tank. They are mostly looking for red diesel though which is only legally supposed to be used on farm equipment. The other thing is, will it show up on your MOT emissions test and does the garage have a duty to report it?

>>9326 you can clone non protected RFIDs at about 2-3 feet, so not necessarily

I have a goal and two questions for this thread the goal is to not work a 9-5 or a 1-12 I see leaching as a answer to that goal 1 what are the things I should be able to do/know to be a effective leach? (making fake id to buy cypto) 2 whats the best tools I should pick up to aid in leaching (a usd antenna to steal wifi) >>9326 pick-pocketing is a good skill to know

>>9327 Nah there's ones that go in between the sensor and the door mechanism, and copy the keycard next time someone uses it. Then from your phone or whatnot you can trigger a replay.

this is thread is stupid. like, unless if you're leeching from people or organizations who have little to nothing to lose (shoplifting from big corpos), you're being an asshole. stealing stuff from public places? seriously? they probably need those things more than you do, and some can't easily replace them because of low budget, depending on what you're stealing. that's like stealing from poor people, man, it's just evil. steal from the rich. you're not going to change anything for worse by doing so, but you're also going to get some bank if you're competent and smart enough. >>8929 >That's not anarchist at all. That's just depriving the collective of something others might need. >Ok you are just a low life scumbag that's basically what i'm getting from this thread too :| >>8931 Well said.

>>7710 >>10440 >>8931 i want to propose something radical. instead of taking from one another. living parasitically. creating a system of take or be taken from. lets give. the antidote to hatred is love. the antidote to parasitic is mutual. we cant fix broken society. tearing each other down. we fix broken society. loving each other. a different way. share books. feed the hungry. clothe the naked. love one another. create parallel society. do not become a leech. another part of cruelty. plant a tree instead. be solarpunk. not cyberpunk.

>>10470 that's all great, but taking stuff from big corpos won't hurt anybody, but will greatly benefit whoever is doing it. i don't like the idea of leeching off of poor people, that's all. also, can't we do both? leech from the rich and help people in need?

>>10471 you cannot feed the hungry by starving the fat. parable of long spoons. stealing from others to benefit self harms both. stealing is an illusion of benefit. in a zero-sum game no one wins. with a zero-sum mind all lose. it is coming from the wrong place. a society of thieves robs all people. a better society is one where all people thrive. lift each other up. do not tear each other down. the only cure to this broken system is to live outside it. theft is part of the game. giving is outside of it. play monopoly cooperatively to beat the bank. not to beat each other. the game is greed. the rich is greedy. the thief is greedy. the antidote to greed is giving. "greed is the inventor of injustice and its enforcer" "greed is the lack of confidence in our ability to create" "greed is a bottomless pit" you cannot claim to revolt against a system by operating as a part of it. loving each other is the only way. do not play the broken game.

>>10472 >starving the fat. do you have any idea of how much money these people and companies have? or the amount of profit they make? i could regularly shoplift walmart (assuming i don't get caught) for years and it wouldn't make a single difference in their total capital. i don't care, man, there's just people who have too much, and people who have close to nothing. if you want the people who have nothing, or at least no surplus to give outside of physical effort, to give to other people who also have nothing, you're insane. bootstrapping doesn't really make sense here. >play monopoly cooperatively to beat the bank you simply cannot beat the bank. you can only beat it if it's not playing, so i guess creating your own commune would work in this case... unless if they bruteforce their way in, like what happened to basically all independent/isolated hunter-gatherer tribes, anarchist communities and wowsers! the slave trade was basically that! you simply can't ignore the current system, you have to destroy it, to prevent it from ever happening again. >the rich is greedy. the thief is greedy. am i being greedy for trying to redistribute wealth and power? i don't care what you call me, but don't compare me to rich dumbasses who have nothing to lose and yet they keep wanting more. that's greed. >you cannot claim to revolt against a system by operating as a part of it. how am i being part of it if i'm constantly going against it? again, we can do both; we can take from rich, destroy their system, and at the same time use those resources to help ourselves. they aren't mutually exclusive.

>>10473 >You're greedy for wanting a spare $1000 in your bank account >Jeff Bezos isn't greedy, he earned that!

>>10472 >you cannot feed the hungry by starving the fat. I know its not what he was saying, but one might point out that the fat are reprehensible both morally and aesthetically and it would be a benefit to the world to starve them even if no one gets the food they'd have eaten. Also heavenly harmony in this example is destroyed by someone feeding himself inefficiently from everyone elses bowl. World is not nor ever will be pure cooperation nor pure defection, neccisary to have systems capable of handling defection. >>10473 >slave trade was basically that! all slaves are slaves by choice, its always possible to be more expensive than any labour you can provide. >>10470 >i want to propose something radical. fvggot thats not radical that's what commies have been saying since time immemorial. why not start by giving me your lunch money.

>>10474 >being part of the system is how i defeat the system! buy my marx branded t-shirt, made in china! soykaf

Here's one from me: If you are working a whitecollar/codemonkey office-space job, use the compute resources of your office/workplace to mine Monero for yourself. Make the xmrig miner software run in the background of the always-on computers, with 1% system resource leeching during the day, and maybe increase that percent during the night. Scheme up a way to keep the leeching off the compute resources as stealthy as possible. Seize the means of (compute) production.

>>11919 I thought of doing something like this some time back at a similar sort of job. The idea was to have a system set up to be portable and easy to conceal and configured to automatically start mining once power was provided. Internet would be handled via a travel router (or a prepaid SIM card) and Tor, with the miner program running on startup. The system itself would run some sort of lightweight Linux distrubution such as Debian/Devuan or Arch or Gentoo or something similar. Think a gaming laptop or small form factor PC that would fit in a backpack that you could take into a coffee shop or office, plug into power, connect to wifi via a travel router, and quietly mine Monero/some other crypto. I suppose if you wanted to modify this further while at work you could get an older e-waste or discarded machine from IT, pull the network credentials and MAC address off it, and leave it plugged in someplace with the above configuration. Running a miner on a work provided machine you use seems like it would just draw attention by IT, though I suppose it depends on how competent your IT staff are.

>>7711 Anarchist Cookbook is a piece of soykaf, the author just made up most of the soykaf he put in there e.g a glass jar with a spoonful of potassium permanganate and a drop of gasoline can explode with the power of a stick of dynamite, suck my dick.

>>11936 >create chaos in cities >encourage mass shootings >murder children Typical retarded white nationalist fantasizing. This will only elicit a major response of law enforcement that will ultimately result in, if anything, further restrictions put upon whatever part of society you inhabit, so as to prevent these acts from occurring again, while also getting all of society to hate you and delegitimizing whatever vague, abstract, poorly-established ideology you follow. Funnily enough, Kaczynski warns against having vague, abstract ideologies in Anti-Tech revolution. >attempt to burden women with children so both can live soykafty lives At least in some sick twisted way this does do something to divert people from being enslaved by student debt. Instead, they can be trapped working a soykafty job to support their child, if they don't abort/ditch the child.

>>11937 He was probably suggesting being anonymous about it to keep the plebs guessing the cause if there is a cause. Also, having kids is both a burden and a blessing when combined with eugenics. Retarded kids should be aborted or euthanized.

>>7713 Wouldn't that be biodiesel and thus useless for petrol vehicles? Thanks for nothing!

>>11948 From research ive done I think it would depend on the oil you use. Main difference between diesel and gasoline is hydrocarbon length. If you use an oil with same hydrocarbon lengths it should in theory produce something like gasoline rather than diesel. But I am unsure how dangerous this is since it will more easily ignite than diesel and heat is produced in the process.

>>11949 Any oil recommendations?

>>11952 I haven't figured that out yet because there is many things to consider like viscosity and price.

>>10475 >all slaves are slaves by choice no, that's like saying all rape victims are raped on their own will.

When will someone write a cyber-anarchist cookbook?

>>11973 not quite but you have the right idea. A woman doesn't even need to be alive to give a good night's fun, whereas to be economically useful a slave has to keep working for some time. >>12458 when (you) get off your fat ass and start writing

off topic we goooooooo >>11973 >>all slaves are slaves by choice >no, that's like saying all rape victims are raped on their own will. >performing an action (labor in slavery) is equivalent to having an action performed on you (rape) false. consider it this way: you cannot physically force someone to do productive labor you can COERCE them into doing it (e.g: beatings, abuse, threats, etc.), but you cannot FORCE them coercion implies choice, ergo all slaves are slaves by choice hell you can just slit your throat with a rusty nail if you want versus rape: most rapes are coerced, which is similar to slavery however, you can also force a rape, via: 1) drugs (unconscious = impossible to resist) 2) overpower her, tie her down, rape her (not this is different from just hitting her a few times until she agrees to being raped (which is coercion)

>>7711 my dad briefly knew Hoffmann in the 80s. he would hang around bars and beg people to buy him beer and pickled eggs.

You could try to become a bureaucrat at some government agency. Then work as inefficiently as you can. Don't do anything yourself and try to stall things. Ask for useless and unnecessary confirmations from your superiors and colleagues. Steal pens and similar things from your work. >>7710 >If you have experience with the leeches' lifestyle I'm just NEET who lives on welfare/NEETbucks. I think it's important to have some skills in case the government stops paying for your expenses. This is why I will apply to a school (probably some trade school). >stealing books from the library I think that's a bad thing because poor people then don't have access to education/knowledge or entertainment. >>12463 Maybe this site isn't for you?

>>7712 >If you want (relatively) cheap VPN server buy a raspberry pi3, setup wireguard and some free ddns and when you get into a hotel/motel/.. with free wifi just connect the rpi to the wifi. I did this on university so i have 3 fast private VPN servers at almost no cost, just make sure to hide them properly Thats pretty neat. How long have you been able to keep them running? surely someone discovers them eventually? Ive liked the idea of doing something like that but leaving them ontop of roofs of businesses/restaurants/shops and running them off a solar panel that charges a battery for the pi.

Maybe one could plead insanity to get welfare? I mean, the idea of being a leech is only useful if you find yourself with tons of free time because of that. Not giving back (dedication and time) so you can get more (time to dedicate). Becoming a hobo is obviously a terrible tactic. If I have to spend time collecting trash, panhandling and fighting with a dog for a sausage, I will prefer 9 to 5, of course. I want a house, a fridge, a sofa, a bed, a toiled, a PC, internet connection and absolutely no bills to pay, or having that arranged, and that's it. That is the true lifestyle. I only need the basics taken care of. I could do some freelancing job every now and then when I want to travel somewhere. But I want my daily expenses taken care of. HOW, for godsake.

>>7713 I dunno why OP included dumpster diving as "leeching" cuz, I would expect something to only be in this category if it is hurting society. dumpster diving doesn't hurt anyone. So, the reason to steal gas instead of using cooking oil is that the theft hurts the system. using the system's trash doesn't hurt it.

>>12515 If you get free food you wont buy food. Its the piracy logic.This is also why the supermarkets rather trash food than give it away for free.

>>12518 And this is why we flooded some African states with free food. Their agriculture is reduced to nothing because good luck being competitive against free and if they don't do as they are told, the humanitarian help stop.

>>7712 >>12498 No one ever talks about the specifics of this idea. It pisses me off a little. Here I refer to the pi3 as the client, and the server as the home wg server. >can't just connect server to client because new/unestablished INPUT traffic is blocked on all/most cafe/work/library networks >connect client to server >ssh from server to client >all traffic 180's back to the home server and onto the web >it's pointless, you can just set up the client at your home in this case Here is how you get server -> client traffic to step out of the wg tunnel when it arrives at the client. #!/bin/bash WG_CLIENT_IP="10.0.0.2" LOCAL_IFACE="eth0" MARK_VALUE="42" TABLE_ID="200" TABLE_NAME="localout" LOCAL_GATEWAY=$(ip route show dev "$LOCAL_IFACE" | grep -oP 'default via \K[\d.]+') if [ -z "$LOCAL_GATEWAY" ]; then echo "Error: Could not detect local gateway on $LOCAL_IFACE" exit 1 fi grep -q "$TABLE_NAME" /etc/iproute2/rt_tables || echo "$TABLE_ID $TABLE_NAME" >> /etc/iproute2/rt_tables iptables -t mangle -C OUTPUT -s "$WG_CLIENT_IP" -j MARK --set-mark "$MARK_VALUE" 2>/dev/null || \ iptables -t mangle -A OUTPUT -s "$WG_CLIENT_IP" -j MARK --set-mark "$MARK_VALUE" ip route show table "$TABLE_ID" | grep -q default || \ ip route add default via "$LOCAL_GATEWAY" dev "$LOCAL_IFACE" table "$TABLE_ID" ip rule list | grep -q "fwmark $MARK_VALUE.*lookup $TABLE_NAME" || \ ip rule add fwmark "$MARK_VALUE" table "$TABLE_ID" ip route flush cache echo "Routing setup complete. Traffic from $WG_CLIENT_IP will exit via $LOCAL_IFACE"

>>12694 And here is the list of tear-down steps #!/bin/bash WG_CLIENT_IP="10.0.0.2" LOCAL_IFACE="eth0" MARK_VALUE="42" TABLE_ID="200" TABLE_NAME="localout" iptables -t mangle -C OUTPUT -s "$WG_CLIENT_IP" -j MARK --set-mark "$MARK_VALUE" 2>/dev/null && \ iptables -t mangle -D OUTPUT -s "$WG_CLIENT_IP" -j MARK --set-mark "$MARK_VALUE" ip rule list | grep -q "fwmark $MARK_VALUE.*lookup $TABLE_NAME" && \ ip rule del fwmark "$MARK_VALUE" table "$TABLE_ID" ip route show table "$TABLE_ID" | grep -q "^default" && \ ip route del default table "$TABLE_ID" # manually remove custom table entry from /etc/iproute2/rt_tables ip route flush cache

>>7860 >Work for cash, barter, or for non-traceable crypto, report low income Incredibly risky because landlords want guarantees, which means you'll live in low-income areas, which also increases risk of being a victim of crime. >then: get free healthcare, food stamps and scholarships, tax credits, down payment assistance, and on and on. Again, you'd have to make the appropriate EV and VaR calculation which takes into account crime and less access to areas where the state wants to intervene in to give stuff. >Fake Americans with family and connections in certain less-developed countries only: take out a bunch of student loans, credit card debt, and possibly even SBA loans, live for free for a decade being a permanent student, cash out as much as possible, then return to your home country and never come back. Do you know how fast banks flag people for money laundering and bankruptcy fraud? Also, this presumes the person will neither be extradited nor will they be captured, which, if you're going to make it big, could be very possible. >Buy a house in a state with full bankruptcy exemptions for homestead, pay it off by taking debt in other places if necessary, have a ball with credit cards, declare bankruptcy, keep the house. Make sure you "work" in a field that will let you declare 30k of electronics or tools or whatever as tools of the trade. Be careful and know how to not make it look like "bankruptcy abuse". This same advice is to be had for the previous point, however, now there's also a good chance banks will implement some pretty tough bullshit in the contract just to ensure they're not getting screwed hard enough. >get married to some kind of MFDV (Minority / Female / Disabled / Veteran, ideally all highly dependent on who you actually are. If you're a man, the only way it's convenient to get married is if you're the poor, good-looking boytoy. The easier trick would be to legally change last name as to have a certain ethnic look so you can claim minority status. I'd also suggest to fake being a sexual minority, since that will also be very easy to fake, so it's a very simple added minority status. Either that or, if you're willing, revert to minority-proof religions, such as Islam or Judaism. Islam is the obviously better choice here. >Are you in the military? Do you have ED, PTSD, or any other difficult-to-prove disabilities? The answer is yes, you do. Enjoy the free money! Hopefully you joined the Air Force and spent five years in an office doing work on computers or something to have skills for future work. Enjoy your free college. Difficult2prove != difficult2fake >>8576 It means insurers either act fast enough to raise premiums for the rising risk or they go bankrupt. Then again, this presumes the property you're vandalizing is actually insured. >>8577 >Police dgaf about property crimes, let alone solving crimes. They are there as an implied threat and deterrence. They gaf about it insofar as they know that if nothing gets solved at all they lose legitimacy. They try to solve just enough crime so they can keep their jobs and not enough as to actually make the streets safe, otherwise people would start thinking about replacing them. Some, in particular, are more important to protect than others (corpos), because they may or may not have the money to lobby and donate to public officials. >>8929 >collective found the fake anarchist, there's no anarchism without the private individual and propertarian law. >>8931 >its theft couldn't possibly affect the upper echelons of society, only society's most impoverished. True, if you haven't noticed, they already started talking about this before your post (LURK MOAR) >>8931 >robots will be a reality... someday Robots are already a reality in industry. What do you think dark factories are about? What you should be worried about is that drone swarms will be a big problem in war and that there's a clear tech leader-state there which isn't aligned with the West in any way, shape or form. >>8989 >Counterfeit notes might work a few times, but eventually you'll attract the attention of feds who are on that soykaf in no time Counterfeit products are where the real money's at in terms of crime and it helps because many people who buy said products are willing to accept the fact it's counterfeit and just buy it and use it anyway, which means unless you run an insane operation with bad OPSEC then you can pull this off for an extended period of time. >>8631 In some countries they genuinely dgaf about prosecuting certain types of piracy due to there not being some public conscience / it being very conflicted. Highly counteradvise doing it in general, counteradvise it even more for the US as they really care about copyright. That being said, torrenting in general isn't illegal and it's based on p2p so to advise using i2p with torrenting isn't a problem. >>10471 >taking stuff from big corpos won't hurt anybody Depends on company policy. From what I heard Target doesn't call the police until they can stain your criminal record with a felony so you need to keep track of how much stuff in money you've stolen from them if you do. I don't know about other companies with similar policies but you definitely can't do this with the indians. >>10472 >cannot claim to revolt against a system by operating as a part of it the state would rather literally burn you to death before you can even start if you geographically distance yourself, even with your innocent children. Feds count Waco as a success in their books. The trick for these people/organizations is to become parasitic to the state as soon as possible while keeping a good visage, even better if they can ideologically capture the very same institutions which would otherwise try to keep them in check. >>11927 >depends on how competent your IT staff also depends on how replaceable they are. If they're very replaceable, the chances of them to gaf more often than not increases. >>11937 >unironically following Ted go back to looking at 4chan's screen, you filthy tourie >Instead, they can be trapped working a soykafty job to support their child, if they don't abort/ditch the child. which means you now have increased rates of people ditching/borting children and we know this to be the case because it's been happening for quite a while and it doesn't seem like this trend is stopping anytime soon. Breeding a lot is also just a morally good thing to do, genetic imperialism is very conducive to greatness in the future. >>11940 >Retarded kids should be aborted or euthanized Exactly the opposite should be done for our babies, just don't claim them if they're too much of a burden. Make sure they're alive and can leech off the system well and make sure there are more of your own than their own. That's also how you fight implicit, subtle extinction/replacement. You want them to be a blessing to you and a burden to the system. Protip: you can literally racemix, then just never claim the mixed race kids and have an actual family with actual kids. This is an even more effective, as well as peaceful, way to guarantee genetic dominance. >>12464 >You could try to become a bureaucrat at some government agency. Then work as inefficiently as you can. Don't do anything yourself and try to stall things. Ask for useless and unnecessary confirmations from your superiors and colleagues. Steal pens and similar things from your work. The funny part here is that operatives have literally made a manual which explains how to do this to any organization. >poor people then don't have access to education/knowledge or entertainment the real problem here is that poor people aren't being taught to torrent through i2p and running a node. >>12498 iirc they made some device that repeats signals to be able to use public wifi from an entiraly different location within the same big city, so you may not even need to put a raspberry pi close/in the premises. >leaving them ontop of roofs Unless it's one of those flat roofs (which may make it even easier for them to come up and spot them), leaving the pi out there in the elements doesn't seem very durable. You'd basically be trading a wifi subscription for another thing that leads to a upkeep-payment situation, one that is also very dubious due to its very nature. >>12694 >>12695 doing God's work

>>12518 >>12518 >If you get free food you wont buy food. Its the piracy logic.This is also why the supermarkets rather trash food than give it away for free. IIRC, there is one more problem. * You donate food to a bum * bum gets sick because it's a stinking bum! * bum tries to sue you! da bum has nuffing to lose, after all! "Lawsuit paradise", my b...s... That's the real problem, not the piracy logic.

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leeching isn't the right word for it imo - it implies entitlement, that the system is entitled to the fruits of your labor and you are not paying what you owe to the system. wealthy politicians believe they are entitled to your tax dollars and that anyone who makes use of any public service like welfare or food stamps is a leech on the system, even though your tax dollars pay for these public goods. the apple corporation believes that they are entitled to your money and they consider it "leeching" when you buy a secondhand iphone from some rando instead of buying a new iphone directly from apple, but you're not leeching anything from apple, you're just bartering with another person instead of apple. if we are going to liberate ourselves from dependence on the existing power structures we must first liberate our minds and our language from the social conditioning that tells us that we are subservient to said power structures and that we owe them our money and they owe us nothing in return.

real talk: if you really want to be a "leech" you should learn how to fix your own car. i was forced to learn how to be my own mechanic by poverty about a year ago when a mechanic tried to charge me $1500 to fix the brakes on my car and instead i replaced the pads and the fluid myself for less than a hundred dollars. more recently i saved another $800 by changing the spark plugs and ignition coils myself with a set of generic chinese spark plugs and coils i got from amazon warehouse for $65. i read somewhere that the biggest expenditure americans make by far is on cars, either needlessly buying new cars or getting shafted by mechanics with exorbitant repair costs. buy a soykafty old car directly from the owner on craigslist or something and learn how to fix it and keep it running to 300k+ miles and you'll be "leeching" tons of money from the system.

How bulky and beefy of a rig would I need to be able to mine cryptocurrency using public electricity? If local or neighbor WiFi has any problem with it, I could use my phone hotspot. The question is making enough money? I doubt a laptop would make me any more than one cent per year, but a bookshelf full of ASICs might get the attention of the cafe staff.

I remember some lainon posted a guide for dumpster diving (probably .pdf)...I searched up book sharing thread and some others, but could not locate it. If somebody have it saved, could you please share? i am really interested in this topic right now

>>14340 Found it. I thought it was better...

>>14342 mind sharing? also, I'm really interested in the topic too right now. would you like to be friends?

>>14344 Here. I attached it to my previous post, but it wasn't uploaded for some reason... Of course i would like to be friends!!

>>14345 it wasnt attached again... whatever. uploaded it here: https://file.garden/aqwgSNPZvDm6nKDO/dump_diving_hoffman.pdf

>>14345 thanks! it's different from the one I was thinking of, but maybe the one I remembered was from elsewhere. I'll still read through, though. you can drop your contact and I'll reach out ^^