Squatting

Squatting is the action of occupying an abandoned or unoccupied area of land or a building, usually residential, that the squatter does not own, rent or otherwise have lawful permission to use. Usually these buildings are in a poor state, sometimes without water or electricity. Squatting allows people to build the place up to a cozy home, instead of an investment for rich speculates. Rather than to discuss the political side I hope we can have a practical discussion. Share your experiences or ask questions. What's the situation regarding squatting in your area like? >how to scout a place to squat >how to get access >find out who the original owner of the building is >dealing with legal and illegal evictions So you have a place, now what >how to get water if there's none >alternatives to flushing the toilet with water >stay warm during winter >cooking without water, gas or electricity >how to keep rats out >how to keep pigs out >what philosophy does your squat follow, accept everyone looking for a place to sleep? Of course the conditions aren't alwasy as harsh as no water, heating or electricity, that means there's time to focus on other things! >cool community projects >community kitchen >community gardening >squat based mesh network Feel free to elaborate on topics I just missed. I'm currently helping in a squat to find a solution for the toilet without water and am looking at building a composting toilet, anyone experience with that or other suggestions?

>how to get access Lockpicking, crowbars and boltcutters. >how to get water if there's none Rainwater or jerry cans from a public bathroom. >alternatives to flushing the toilet with water Best solution is to soykaf in a bucket and add sawdust + dirt afterwards to make a composting toliet. Dump the dirt after 3-6 months in the garden. Piss in a bottle, if possible, to divert urine from the composting toliet and keep the stench down. >stay warm during winter Winter clothing + sleeping bags. >cooking without water, gas or electricity Outdoors with hobo stove and solar cooker, or indoors with portable camping stove, alcohol stove, immersion cooker in vacuum flask with car battery. >how to keep rats out Protect the food. >how to keep pigs out Stealth or numbers. They only come if they think they have a massive advantage.

>place See boarded windows, sneak inside and kill other bums to obtain house. >access Crowbar to open boarded windows. Also to kill other bums with. >who owns it Why would you care? Signs telling you to not trespass show up with names on them by order of a sheriff where I live. That'd be one way to know, but it also means that the pigs will bother you eventually. You won't make it three months. The sign means that they were slow to the uptake but want you to think you can't get away with it again. >dealing with legal... But you said aside from political discussions. Otherwise I'd tell you to avoid prison time, as even a pocketknife plus trespass charge equals prison time in the USA. Where I live the sheriff puts up signs, more and more every year, any time he finds out someone used unused but not public land to sleep on. It's obnoxious. They always show a name of who owns it so as to blame shift, sheriff orders then the property owner name near the bottom. >water They have life straw things that filter 100,000 gallons for cheap. You could steal one from wallmart or something, though the ones there I've seen are only like 50k liters. That's like 34 gallons per day for a year though so it's fine. >flushing You can throw a bucket of water into it hard and if you do it right the toilet flushes. Hurricanes taught me this. Using pic related, costs 23 usd itself, you could carry water around you have filtered from a creek, or stolen using some hose you keep to put under public sinks that leads to your bottle, or bottles as you change them out. Parks have water faucets sometimes. Sometimes bathrooms, but such paces are very unsanitary. I'd use the life straw thing. They can be like 20 usd per straw. They break easy so you should have sever. Also camping canteens have woods stoves that slip under them to boil the water. You should have one of those. >warm Emergency foil blankets are also cheap if you can't light soykaf on fire like a normal person on account of fear of smoke making you seen. >cooking >no water, gas, electrictiy They have solar ovens, made of foil, but you have to live in a hot area. Also the camping wood stove, you didn't say no fire, but why no water? That's oddly phrased. >rats Do you mean actual rats or narcs? Kill them either way. Rats are hard to catch though, sticky pads are a thing. Maybe you can eat them after you catch them. It's sad but I've bashed many mouse heads in with a bat. The sticky pads don't cost much >pigs Do you mean cops? You can eat these you know, if not a cop. >philosophy XD Anyway, you could potentially donate plasma for like 200ish per month, more than enough money for the supplies you might want or need. Also you can steal bikes then pawn them. Another option is collecting cans and such and taking them to a junkyard place that pays for the metal, each are a nickel, soda cans are. You just need to fight other bums over that though so I'd not bother. I'd shoplift before that, but never get caught over 500ish worth of items (over time) as that is a felony, grand larceny.

Also those life straws are probably dumb to buy when you can make it yourself woodsy style.

First and to make it clear I'm absolutely OK with the idea of squatting. BUT >you go in hospital for a certain period of time. >some fuarrrkers enter your home discretely. >they open an electric line contract to justify your home is now there home (you have to justify the electric line was open more than 48 hours before any procedure). >come back from hospital and you found all your stuff in the street and some "whites muh anarchy" that put all a family from whatever soykafhole country in your home. >you're now fuarrrked and have no legal recourse to claim your home because of the fuarrrking electric bill procedure (see above). >you can always use force but if you're white it could cost you a lot because "muh racism" "muh human rights"... And because there is no more solidarity in white culture. >by the way I talk for my country "muh les droits de l'homme" "muh les valeurs de la république". fuarrrk France.

>>5412 >using him as your mfw to self flagellate le racist meme >filename on top of this Hilarious anon.

>>5412 >they open an electric line contract to justify your home is now theirs wat

>>5415 It's possible in some places/states with lenient squatters rights. In my country, it's illegal to squat on residential property so you can just call the police. Some places you can legally fire on them ('stand your ground'). Otherwise, you might have to just serve an eviction notice ASAP. >>5412 If you are mad because of the French 48 hours law, I'm pretty sure it only applies to second homes.

>>5415 >>5416 The "48 hours law" is not technically a law. It's the time in which a crime is considered flagrant (it is not technically true tho). "According to article 53 of the code of criminal procedure, is qualified as flagrante delicto "the crime or misdemeanor that is currently being committed, or that has just been committed. A flagrant crime or misdemeanor also exists when, at a time very close to the action, the suspected person is pursued by public clamor, or is found in possession of objects, or presents traces or clues, suggesting that he or she participated in the crime or misdemeanor"". But lot of squatters using this juridic hole to say "your house is not mine" (technically no, but the justice is so long and during all the procedure they can live in your house). >If you are mad because of the French 48 hours law, I'm pretty sure it only applies to second homes. If it was the case, I would not be so bothered. Just look at the french news and you will see how some fuarrrkers have literally take the home of someone during is absence.

>>5398 >cool community projects If it starts to become a lot more on the community side, at least pick a certain niche instead of being free-for-all parasite. Think of hackerspaces, it requires technical skill level, raise the bar otherwise the crows will flock to feast. >community kitchen >community gardening Community seems like a lot of problem. >squat based mesh network Seems like a way to get a dox. Doesn't add a feature, only attracts the whiteknights who will report your location after a meetup. >how to get water if there's none Water well? I'm sure if you live in some soykafhole it's illegal to do so or you will need a license and own that land. >alternatives to flushing the toilet with water Used water? Rainwater (also illegal in some soykafhole) >stay warm during winter Insulation >cooking without water, gas or electricity Wood or Bio-methane >how to keep rats out Hide it where it's secure, unless you mean you're living together with rats? >how to keep pigs out Your problem, evict them although that means they'll rat you out. >what philosophy does your squat follow, accept everyone looking for a place to sleep? I say accept none.

>>5412 Most squats are rental properties that have been vacant for some time, often owned by a neglectful landlord. This post simply doesn't reflect reality. A bunch of long running squats in Philly were purchased from the city by the squatters after the previous owners defaulted and the properties went up for auction. No one bid against the current inhabitants so they became legal owners for initially paltry sums, but they were required to get the structures up to code and that took a little more money. This happened around y2k give or take, maybe it's still possible.

>>5417 >Just look at the french news I could only find the case of Henri and Marie-Thérèse Kaloustian (owned retirement villa in Théooule-sur-Mer for 36 years, sold primary home before discovering squatters in retirement villa). Can you share an example of one that isn't a second home? (I have mixed feelings. I can't think of a reason why someone would need to own more than one home, but a social system that lets you buy more than one home should protect it from being stolen. That home may have been doing nothing for 36 years, so squatting there is good use of empty space, but I feel they should be able to be removed within a short time, a few days at most, once the legal owner arrives and evicts them)

If I were to squat successfully I would simply avoid going to places that have "Private Property No Trespassing" signs also the point about stealth or numbers is true. no one wants to buy devalued land & evict 18-200 people on top of it, that is how slab city keeps going. and if you aren't squatting a whole town with a bunch of people, stick to a semi-nomadic lifestyle - a perfect squat you get busted/harassed in is a bad squat, there are 8 empty homes for every homeless person, so start living in them!

I have never squatted but for a long time have I had the dream of getting a group of homeless people, finding a house and squatting together. Now here's my advice; If you can choose when to squat, do it in summer. At night it's warm and there's usually a lot of food everywhere. I grew up in a village where me and my cousin would steal melons and corn late at night. He went on and became low-key criminally active. I however have decided to never steal anything unless it's barely noticeable (tip: a hundred corn cobs missing from a field of tens of thousands is hard to notice). That's about it, I have no serious plans for squatting whatsoever. Anyway, have fun!

>>5398 Story time... Turns out laws in my country are pretty chill when it comes to this, if you find an abandoned or anyways unowned piece of land (can have buildings on it like you mention) turns out if you take care of it and improve it for 5 years, it yours no questions asked. I met a girl about 4 years ago and she had a kid. Some times we would go and pick him up. During these pick ups we would deviate our trajectory now and then to spend some time together, on one such deviation we came across a huge, really nice abandoned house which still had some furniture in it. I mean the house was nice, didn't have electricity, and plumbing was no good. I told her about the five year law and we decided to live the dream life, she didn't want to get the kid involved so she left him at her mother's house and we set to stay there. We hopped the fence and unscrewed the front door hinges so we had later access. We made something like: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ36HChoEqc with plastic boxes and there was an underground well (pretty common 'round here) that was our water source, we made a stove out of bricks and the little metal racks that grills have and used wood and cardboard we picked up from a local grocery store's garbage area. That was the tricky part though one important thing about that law was that if the original owner claims the property you HAVE to get out or else it's trespassing. We only cooked at like 3-4 am and indoors (it was hell) so the neighbors would see fire and potentially call the owners. Also we both had jobs and I was in high school at the time so we left early in the morning and would go pick up her kid and take him to his grandmother's and return late at night. We made a big haste as to nobody seeing us enter. Electricity wasn't a priority and we wanted to wait for the place to be ours and then go into those kind of details. As for cleaning, the place was a terrible mess so we went small and cleared out the bathroom first, placed blankets and slept there in the mean time. Sadly we only stayed about a month, we started having problems between us, she got hooked on meth and I dropped out of school so we just abandoned the project. I went back to living with my aunt and I don't know what she did. Later out of curiosity I took a stroll past the place and turns out it was auctioned off and got crumbled to the ground. I hope this gives you an idea of what this is like if you want to ask me about some details or further discussion I'll try to respond.

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>>5419 I know a landlord and can confirm squaters on some of the rental properties. They wind up untolerated mainly from property damage. So to stay longer just avoid trashing a place up and make some minor clean ups making it better than where it was left before entering.

Haven't seen any squatting movements in my country since 2011. Haven't seen any classic urban decay and abandoned buildings since in my city, everything has been either demolished or redeveloped. It's a futile endeavor with electronic alarm systems and cctv on every corner nowadays, and due to rather well off populations across the globe gentrifying all the cozy spots. Works probably in such poor and remote soykafholes, where owning an apartment or house legally would be cheaper time/labor concerning management of basic utilities above 19th century slum standards. You can live in an cheap village house somewhere in Serbia or Ukraine and have better life quality without solving such intricate civilizational riddles as "how to get water on 5th floor of a 10 floor deteriorating building" or "how to use a toilet with no water flushes". Old medieval laws about dwelling occupation or being a certified gypsy are such a narrow and specific meme that it's only applicable to a few countries, if not even regions of countries, it's not really worth even mentioning. Homeless people are not entitled to "free" homes because they can not maintain these homes. Especially if we talk about cardboard mcmansions built in USA which need constant monetary investments to keep them in regular shape for lifetime obsolescence span of around 20 years. The best a homeless person with mental problems or some addiction (95% of the cases excluding real estate fraud victims in sane mind) should have is a bunk bed in a clean hostel flophouse and a rehabilitation program. If you are one, any first-second world country government probably offers such service. If you're a typical first world middle class kid, ask parents to rent your room and send earned money to cover your rent in place far from home, rent together with friends, invest in your home with a spouse. Or better just live with your elders, and bring your husband/wife too. People used to have multi-generational households in the past, in much smaller dwelling spaces, but false comforts brought by mass-produced modernist architecture and hydrocarbon fuels warped our minds, squatting is rarely a necessity, it's a frivolous adventure at most in modern world.

>>5436 Rent, tax and mortgage are outrageous not just in principle, but in practise paying 30-70% of your income just to have basic shelter means a lifetime of hard labor. The actual cost of building a house is only 30 USD/sqft.

>>5437 Nobody forces you to buy new houses, your parents have one already. You somehow lived for 18 years of your life in that place, you wouldn't mange to for another 70?

>>5449 The same cultural warping that makes children feel like they need to leave a family home makes parents like they haven't "raised an adult" until they leave (assuming we're talking about healthy young people with stable families).

>>5436 >Or better just live with your elders, and bring your husband/wife too. I'm currently doing that, it's nice, but there is an expectation that at some point I will move out. Also they are Christian and I am not so that is a source of conflict.

used to be elders were wise because only wise people lived as long as they did... now the world is populated by old fools.

>>5398 The first post described the basics quite well. I will add that one way to secure provisions is to become a hunter, gatherer, fisherman, scavenger, and the Chad in this pic.

>>5453 >now the world is populated by old fools. That's mostly because the olds have lead-poisoned low-IQ poor-impulse-control brains.

>>5436 >but false comforts brought by mass-produced modernist architecture and hydrocarbon fuels warped our minds, squatting is rarely a necessity, Saying homeless people living in an abandoned building with no heating, electricity or water are somehow responsible for global warming is simultaneously sad, infuriating and hilarious.

Solar panels and car batteries are all you need for electricity. Just connect a 20 W panel to a car battery with a charge controller, and then power your DC appliances directly from the battery, and your AC appliances from an inverter. Recommend at least 100 W of panels to have enough energy for daily use. To disinfect water for drinking, you can use the Solar Disinfection method. Place a clear plastic bottle with unclean water in direct sunlight for at least 6 hours. The UV sterilizes the pathogens and makes the water safe to drink. Always secure the building or room that you squat with a new set of locks. This protects you and tells anyone else trying to enter that the building is occupied.

>>5464 I'd never invest in something like solar panels for a space I could lose tomorrow with no warning.

>>5436 Try telling someone who lives in a favela that they chose to live there, because all they needed to do to get out is buy some land. >>5465 Use foldable solar panels for camping, take them with you in a bag and set them up when needed.

>>5467 Carry solar panels with me every time I leave the house? And whatever appliances running off them. You haven't done any squatting yourself I guess.

>>5471 You can literally fit a 10 W foldable solar panel under your shirt. The only appliances you should have are immersion heaters and alcohol stoves, both of which will fit in a pocket, alcohol included.

>>5464 The only "appliances" worth powering with electricity are computers and artificial lights. Both are not operated for whole day, so they don't need big energy storage and PV panels.

>>5464 i'm not big into squatting or whatever but what exactly are you using that'd require a 100w solar panel and a car battery?

>>5509 If you just want to power electronics and lights, then you can easily use a 10 W hand crank generator. This is the most portable and stealthy option for electricity, it works indoors at night and without fuel. You can get a cheap hand crank generator. It is also relatively simple to make a DIY hand crank generator from AC cordless drill with rectification, or you can make a permanent magnet generator from a coil of wire, a magnet and a wheel. If you want handsfree operation, then you could use a pedal generator instead. If you have a bicycle, you can get 400 W by fitting a generator to the wheel. >>5510 100 W is roughly what you need for a portable icebox. It's nice to have one if you dumpster dive, because then you can preserve salvaged food longer.

>>5511 >10W hand crank generator Arm is not the strongest muscle in human body. Try guessing which one is 20 times stronger. >preserve salvaged food longer Food in dumpsters is dead on arrival already. You either cook it right away or don't touch. Fridges are a luxury for someone on the run, how would you even transport icebox which is twice as bigger for given volume than just plain bag. Dumpster diving lifestyle is take-what-you-can-carry kind of hunter-gatherer scavenging with minimum equipment, anything that doesn't fit into backpack or bicycle is left behind, degenerate agricultural practices like food hoarding have no place in it, especially when you start to understand their energy and resource footprint, such as >100W photovoltaic cells.

>>5511 hand crank generators are cool and all for a flashlight, but say for my soykafty phone with a 2Ah battery, that'd be 10W/5V=2A so 1 hour of cranking for a full charge, if i'm not mistaken. not worth it imo if you want to get into building devices though why not hack together a phone jack-usb adapter and use that, or just chill out somewhere with a outlet and charge your stuff there? >portable icebox ok, how about a camping cooler and a bag of ice whenever you wanna keep something? how much would such a set-up cost anyways? easily a grand i'd imagine. I don't mean to be mean or anything, but sometimes the low-tech solution is just better.

>>5515 >stealing electricity from phone lines Is this 1999? >bag of ice Do you propose to obtain fresh ice during dumpster diving?

>>5513 >Arm is not the strongest muscle in human body. Try guessing which one is 20 times stronger. Now I want to DIY some sort of tongue-powered crank generator.

>>5513 >Try guessing which one is 20 times stronger. Unless you need 200 W, a handcrank generator is sufficient. It's cheaper, more portable and can be used while walking. >You either cook it right away or don't touch. Cooked food still needs to be refrigerated to last. >how would you even transport icebox which is twice as bigger for given volume than just plain bag You don't need to carry a fuarrrking icebox, the food isn't going to rot in the few hours you spend dumpster diving. It rots in the days and weeks afterwards unless you preserve it. >>5515 >2Ah battery, that'd be 10W/5V=2A so 1 hour of cranking for a full charge, if i'm not mistaken. not worth it imo 1 hour of cranking for 20+ hours of use is pretty good, especially if you crank while watching a video, listening to music or reading an ebook. If you want handsfree operation and higher power, then you can use a pedal generator instead. >if you want to get into building devices though why not hack together a phone jack-usb adapter and use that, or just chill out somewhere with a outlet and charge your stuff there? Stealth is more important, and living off-the-grid entirely is best way to stealthy. They can trace energy drains to the building, if it is even powered, but they can't trace a handcrank generator. >ok, how about a camping cooler and a bag of ice whenever you wanna keep something? how much would such a set-up cost anyways? easily a grand i'd imagine. Why would you do this? You can easily make a DIY icebox from a single 12V Peltier CPU cooler and a styrofoam box. The more styrofoam or insulation you add, the less power you need to reach the target temperature of 4 C.

>>5398 I just had to burn out some squatters a few miles from my ranch. They were soykafting up the whole valley with their litter. Now they are gone. And damn lucky to to be alive.

>>5521 Most places which have criminalized squatting have not made first-degree murder of squatters legal by anyone except the government dogs.

>>5523 It's modus operandi for private landowners to use extreme violence against poor homeless people, because they are weak, defenseless and have nothing to lose. The wealthy can be threatened by losing their wealth, the wageslave by losing their job, but the homeless, jobless squatter cannot be stopped by anything short of death. The ruling elites know this fact very well, and concentrate all of their economic, military, technological, propaganda power to try and crush the only free nomadic people there are. It's basically like being a runaway slave.

>>5528 >stealing resources from working people >drug addicts >making a mess everywhere >free and nomadic people lol none of them could survive a week if it werent for the charity of christ users and the government giving them welfare

>>5529 Poor, landless people "stealing" from well-off landowners, by sleeping on their land for free! Maybe they even used the water and toilet! They must be the ones consuming all the resources and polluting all the greenhouse gases! You "own" and live on land that was stolen from its original inhabitants, all of humanity, by a few kings and emperors. Your "ownership" is acknowledged only by the state, because you paid them a protection fee. It's interesting to know that your priorities are keeping people from littering, and you are willing to threaten them with death to do so. You treat people like soykaf, even though you know they just trying to find basic shelter, no more than some empty land to sleep on. You consider your right to not encounter poor people to be more important than their right to life. What comes around, goes around. This could happen to you someday, hope you've paid off your rent or mortgage already. Another lockdown is coming. As you know, it's rather hard to survive without land.

>>5463 nobody said that, your mind finds whatever unjust villain where there is none so that you can be the bringer of justice and cum in your pants

>>5528 why should anyone care about anyone but their loved ones? if people are fuarrrking up your ranch, then make them go, its up to them to build a better defence than your attack: its called conflict of interests, plain and simple

>>5556 >why should anyone care about anyone but their loved ones? What goes around comes around.

>>5398 >Rather than to discuss the political side I hope we can have a practical discussion. Lainchan is no longer the place for that apparently, as this thread clearly demonstrates.

>>5555 The belief that people only squat because they choose to squat is laughable. You should try asking the people who live in the Favelas of Rio De Janeiro why they squat there. It's not because they have enough money to live in the rich neighborhoods or anywhere else. If all the land in the world were equally divided between each person, everyone would be entitled to 4.7 acres of land and 0.5 of arable land. The fact that you don't have your 4.7 acres is because someone else has taken it from you for themselves, probably to build a fuarrrking golf course. Ultimately, the rich enrich themselves by taking your land and selling it back to you. They make you pay a 30 year mortgage for a house that you could build yourself in less than a year, and they will make you pay tax on it forever. They change a variable rate mortgage on a whim. They can fuarrrking lockdown the economy while still charging mortgage and tax. This is effectively their primary way to control you. The only way to beat their game is not to play it. Their system of control relies on denying you your basic needs, food and shelter. This is evil, and the point of this thread is to show how to get free food and shelter for everyone, everywhere, forever.

>>5560 You know it's funny, I reckon I could do a lot with 0.133 acres such that 4.700 seems overkill

>>6071 honestly I just need a couple thousand square feet of good land and I'd be set.

>>5398 squatting is theft. get a job you communist glitterboy

>>6071 >>6072 The ruling elites are serious about making you live in a pod and eat bugs, do not let them. Their greatest lie is when they say this is the way the world has to be. It doesn't, and never will. What they propose is several orders of magnitude more destructive for the the environment and humanity than 17th-century pre-Industrial revolution self-sufficient family homesteads. It is basically industrial livestock farming applied to humans. >>6075 Then let's have a democratic vote, whether to give everyone 4.7 acres of free land or not.

Just curious. If you ask the owner of a place to stay there, is it no longer squatting? I mean, the chances of them accepting is bigger if the place is near unlivable. Plus, you no longer have to deal with legal stuff. >>6075 >squatting is theft That would depend on where you're squatting. For example, countries with "everyman's right" would be the best places.

where i could find food? how i could defend myself? I mean, i think it would be better just leech off (((the system))) a little bit and go buy a piece of land after. Why the average lainanon should squatt? >t. brazillian lainanon

>>5513 > Food in dumpsters is dead on arrival already. You either cook it right away or don't touch Bullshit. I've been living on out-of-date supermarket food for over a year now, I get it direct from them at the back gate once a week. I take it home, fill my fridge and it usually keeps me going until next week. Certain things (especially salads) need eating right away, but loads of what they throw out will last at least a week, and dried or canned food lasts practically forever.

>>6092 got a bath and kept thinking. Thought about a really good path to live "off the grid" much more comfy then squatting: >leech of your parents (you had been doing this for a while now) >while you are at it, get some skills (personally i would go freelance programing) >if you can, get some quick cash (selling stuff, doing basic services to neighbors like house cleaning or walking dogs) >get money enough to buy a van, convert it to eletric >throw all your stuff on the van and keep freelancing and/or doing the previous mentioned stuff >buy (or steal) a piece of land far off the city, live of your crops >in case you are in need drive back to the city to leech off the (((system))) >profit I mean, that's a plausible cenario on Brazil at least (not that easy to make money, but free healthcare and some other soykaf for free you can get)

>>6088 Better to ask for forgiveness than permission. >>6092 Bread and circus cannot substitute for actual land. They are temporary distractions while the ruling elites steal everything of value. Even the bread and circus will be taken away once the elites believe there is nothing you can do about it. That is how greedy they are. A free man only needs to produce for himself, and they must have all the tools and land to do so. They don't need anything else. Anyone else is just a slave or a dependent.

>>6096 As long as don't need to pay taxes or licenses, this plan would work very well. The only way the government can hurt you is to try and steal your van, which can be prevented by buying a really cheap used van. You can even modify your van to run on woodgas for free fuel.

>>6098 i was thinking of driving it around with the power that would come from solar panels, but i guess that's a good idea too. I had been looking at the guerrilla gardening thread and heck, I even wouldn't need a piece of land >>>5085

>>6099 >>>/Δ/5085 sorry, im retar

>>6096 I’ve lived in my minivan for a while. Some stuff I can recommend. >get some cheap window blinds or one of those reflectors, if possible get a deep tint. You can also get a cheap extendable curtain rod from daiso and just put a curtain around the front >park on the street inbetween two houses along a fence so they no one can tell you’re camping >to shower get a cheap gym membership and use their showers >for restrooms hotel lobbies work well, fancy libraries, as well as retail stores that people don’t visit often, gas stations if really late >you’re in a van, always park in the highest average income/fanciest suburbs you can for safety >park in college campuses or find a good shaded area to leech off wifi. If you have xfinity, they give you a pass to use any of the hotspots they create from peoples routers > staying warm happens mainly from the bottom/bed side. Get a thick mattress, lots of blankets. if you have a prius or something you can run the ac off the battery all night. >for food whole foods has microwaves the public can use usually, if not the second best thing is to sneak into big shared office buildings and use theirs. Overall it wasn’t really that hard as long as you’re not totally broke. If you can afford a few hundred bucks every month its pretty easy. The biggest thing is to park in a high income/low crime neighborhood and deep tinted windows so you can sleep at ease.

>>6101 thanks for the tips. I don't think it could be very stealth parking on a rich neighborhood with one of those on the back >>6099 But that's good info, are you comfy anon? can you talk a little more about ur van life? ( i really like fantasizing about living on one, and I WILL do it )

>>6099 Powering a car with solar panels would give you around 1000 W, you would have to charge for days to drive for a few hours. This would be good for occasional moves, but anything more would require a wood powered generator of at least 5000 W.

>>6110 occasional moves would be my use case ( traveling is good, but i wouldn't go outside my city that much. Also here where i live there is those especial chargers for free, and also I could... plug it to the wall...? I plan to buy a VW bus/Kombi (those are good, easy to find and person whose company I enjoys don't target them that much) to convert. This guy (http://kbjggqkzv65ivcqj6bumvp337z6264huv5kpkwuv6gu5yjiskvan7fad.onion/watch?v=fGZ1zbqAGA0 ) Powers his Kombi with the solars, and get 1200w (8a x 150v) with a panel the size of the entire roof, which gives 50 miles. I plan to install 3 in the same size and open them up when at stop, what would charge fast as fuarrrk in case I want to cross the border to flee the glowies

>>6112 Something as large as bus might only be able to get 50 miles per month on 1200-3000 W, but you could use the batteries and panels for electric appliances at long term sites. Remember that that your max range depends on the capacity of your batteries, and your miles per month depends on the power output of your panels, generators or grid hookup. For regular transport, you would need a bicycle or electric scooter.

>>6117 seams fine. An eletric longboard would do

>>6117 > might only be able to get 50 miles per month what? the guy on the video said that he gets 40 - 50 miles per day

>>6122 also, that it's on acid batteries. I would harvest some 18650s

>>5398 fuarrrk off squatter, get a job and your own property

Hippy trash pipedream. If only you put half the thought into creating something that you do attempting to steal it. I bet you are "squatting" in your middle class parents house right now. lmao@urlyfe