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How can I live in a cyberpunk lifestyle today? I mean, we still don't have body implanted tech and flying cars (lol), but I'm sure we can still manage to live like this as close as possible with the available technology today. Besides the skills and clothing required for this lifestyle, what would you include in this package? I would include: reducing the amount of data that the organizations and the government has on you, deleting accounts that has any kind of personal info about you; having a good VPN service would be good too, but I'm not sure about it, maybe a private VPN; customizing your phone to keep it simple and yet useful; hoarding a lot of data (just in case). Also, I was thinking about some form of minimalism, but I'm not entirely sure how it'd be. I've been told that the sysadmin job is the best one to be closer to the cyberpunk world, but so is being a NEET. You could get brouzouf from doing some freelance jobs on the internet, just enough to pay your bills and keep yourself fed. Owning a cheap small apartament on the center of the city would help too. And that's everything I've came up so far. Everything related is welcome.

OP, just because you don't have a bunch of transistors jammed into your brain doesn't mean you're not a cyborg. You don't need anything to live a cyberpunk life because the dystopia is here. It has been for a while now. The only reason people don't recognize it is because instead of grungy brutalist megaopolises we all still live in soykafty suburbs built circa-1965. Unless you're living out in some desolate third world pit where they still haven't discovered radio you're already very much living in the cyberpunk world. You don't get a choice.

>>4305 I don't think op understands what cyberpunk is in the first place.

cyberpunk is low life in a high tech environment. you don't get meshed with the system holding a sysadmin job, you fight it with primitive tools and using the system garbage to get a bit of non threatening tech for yourself.

>How can I live in a cyberpunk lifestyle today? Be poor. Done. Most people in the world are already living a cyberpunk reality. Turns out it's awful. This genre was never meant to be an aesthetic to be emulated and lived for our own amusement. It's a dire warning. Just like all dystopian fiction. I don't understand why people aestheticize and fetishize it. Sure, the media is pretty cool. But how could somebody be so guileless as to believe they'd want to live in such a world? It is and will continue to be utter torture. We seem to have used this fiction and media as an instruction manual when we should have heeded its prognostications and changed course when it was still possible to do so.

I live in a pseudo-cyberpunk lyfestile. It isn't really all that great. >failing server, but still runs >ancient macbook (early early early 2010s) >old gentoo desktop (don't knock it, it runs great, easy to use/administer) >hodgepodge network of stolen equipment >first gen, second edition RaspPIs for fun >poor af I live by *nix, and honestly that's the comfy part. The uncomfy part is finding money for food. Everything else is a luxury. If you want to live this way, go to university and don't save any money before hand. Live off the system. All the other cruft about "living off the grid" is the easy part, the hard part is staying alive.

>>4311 The average person doesn't understand the philosphical aspects or has only been exposed to fiction that doesn't even get into that.

>>4306 >>4305 Not OP, but just because we're advanced and have a dystopia doesn't make this a cyberPUNK dystopia. It's about style. Punk is a style.

>>4325 Mall punk is a style. Punk is a bit of a political philosophy.

>>4334 And what mindset makes a goth not a goth despite the tripp pants and ask yourself if you'd care if the chains nor the blackness were not there?

>>4311 I would agree with the cyberpunk as warning piece. My initial reaction to stories such as 'Snow Crash' are that it is a really neat story and I enjoy the aesthetics of it. Dwelling on the story after the fact brings the realization that it would actually be a terrible world to live in. You probably wouldn't be the main character in a such a world but one of the down trodden side characters.

>>4416 >Dwelling on the story after the fact brings the realization that it would actually be a terrible world to live in I got that at the part where people were living in storage lockers burning piles of old lottery tickets to cook food on.

>>4417 Speaking of the topic of this thread I was just reading today about Google and Apple forcibly installing software onto people's mobile devices to track their movements and contacts. Apparently a lot of countries are going to be using this system via app to try to trace virus infections. They will enforce it by not allowing people out of quarantine to work if they don't comply with government phone tracking. Some are seeing it as a grounds to a social credit score type of situation with consequences to freedom of movement and whatnot. Reading about the new nightmare world I couldn't help but think "indeed this is very cyber punk".>>4417

Unless you're extremely interested in and good with computing technology and the like, a "cyberpunk" life would be hellish. A lot of cyberpunk fiction is made with the intent to show the potential consequences of such an environment, and most people would not enjoy such a thing. I guess the most you could do in a positive way is to cautiously use such technology to enrich your life as much as possible.

>>4423 Yep. Just latest in a cascade of examples. The omniscient megacorp of cyberpunk fiction is already here in force. The techno-cowboy rebel devilishly standing up against it all? Not so much. Even Snowden was probably some kind of limited hangout, a psyop to cloak and reinforce up corpolitical power.

>>4304 >How can I live in a cyberpunk lifestyle today? you pretty much already are by being aware of the current state of affairs regarding late capitalism, low life and constantly improving tech

>How can I live in a cyberpunk lifestyle today? there are more opportunities than ever to make a difference lains. learn to hack safely

>>4311 People like it because it romanticizes their current situation

>>4439 That's... not a bad point, actually.

>>4311 >>How can I live in a cyberpunk lifestyle today? >Be poor If you're disciplined, you can simulate this by limiting your own budget. Just remember the other aspects of cyberpunk---being decent to each other among this technically sophisticated, hostile society. This is what I do, but if someone screws me over, I have the reserves to restore myself. (So far, noöne has tried.)

I just want to say we are pre-cyberpunk. I have witnessed the extent of the US military's scientific knowledge. We aren't there yet. China's ideology and pursuits are dystopia yeah, but in general we are barely floating above the discoveries of Gauss and Abel. Despite the works toward explaining Fermat and Riemann we really are distinctively behind what is to be expected of humanity. Cyberpunk is not an idea of our lifetime but an ideal of a past lifetime. Humanity is disgusting and impure, we will not develop beyond our current limitations before the next major societal reversal. Gravity waves is the last major discovery of proof, until God permits us we shall struggle in the dirt and the slime waiting for his clarity. I pray we see the formula of the primes but alas we are unworthy. I really genuinely hope we progress in my lifetime because what I am seeing is nothing more than dirt. I hope you all pursue the truth in the same way I do, I am so alone, to be human is a curse. Females really are nothing but against that which is good an d and progress. I am choosing to forsake the birth of my children to see the end of this world.

>>4655 >but in general we are barely floating above the discoveries of Gauss and Abel. Despite the works toward explaining Fermat and Riemann we really are distinctively behind what is to be expected of humanity. the geometrization conjecture has been solved and the finite simple groups have been fully classified. Quantum computation is very slowly becoming understood and available. This is not even considering the frankly absurd leaps in medical and biotechnological science that have emerged recently. Humanity is not held back from scientific progress. If anything, our science is progressing faster than the rest of humanity, and it is causing major strife.

I was driving over to an old booth calls apartment where her hoarding herpes and hep c having ass lives. The whole area was infested with degenerate folk with mask and was truly a sort of dystopia from my yuppie life. Like another anon said. We are high tech, we must embrace the lowlife.

>>4304 Move to a city in China. But don't.

>>4443 >If you're disciplined, you can simulate this by limiting your own budget. I love rich people who think being poor is just living on a smaller budget. A rich American living in the comfortable part of town cannot "simulate being poor" all he's doing is saving up. How do you simulate knowing that homelessness is around the corner? How do you simulate living in a soykafty neighborhood? How do you simulate having no connections or human resources to count on or people who think you matter? How do you simulate the lack of safety and stability? How do you simulate having to say no to everything and missing opportunities because everything is a scary gamble and every little change for the worse would send your life tits up?

>>5074 >How... Give all your money to charity and murder your parents, then go on the run and work as a black hat hacker.

>>4312 >>ancient macbook (early early early 2010s) >I am literally 16 or under This internet website is 18+

>>5074 Aren't your (American) homeless are just braindead junkies and anyone with two brain cells in their empty head can apply for welfare and not be on the street if they wanted? Apart from this, "dangerous parts of town" don't exist outside of Brazil and Brazil-like states (USA), it's just a part of town where lower income people live and garbage pickup happens rarer, you have equal odds of being hit by a car anywhere.

>>5110 I think most of them have a huge debt though. >>4304 Hong Kong protesters use some kind of mesh wifi intranet because their internet is a spyware and partaking discussions about protest == get strapped in a chair, interrogated and sent to Xinjiang camps. Look for the website that checks statuses (like shutdowns) of internet and you will see some countries are almost 1984-tier and the list keeps growing.

>>4304 Neon lights. Neon lights everywhere.

>>5118 Hong-kongers mostly relied on Telegram for their messaging because it has subscription model announcement channels and huge chats (not because it's super duper anonymous as FSB tell you, it's registered to a mobile phone number and has no double ratchet ee2e like it should be if it was really a private communication platform, and not another datamining Russian offshore from former social network owner), it can't be quickly blocked without doing protocol DPI which HK's IPS lacked at the time of protests, they are not behind Dragon Firewall of continental China. Since modern servers are virtual; and rented somewhere "in the cloud": when you start banning Amazon/Google/Azure IPs, you'd lose big portion of large commercial communication as well: banks, software updates and so on. Therefore only complete shutdowns are possible and only for short periods of crackdowns on crowds, or sometimes a partial shutdown of all mobile cells in area is enough to render millennials helpless. All those mesh crapware "apps" are proprietary botnets mostly, and have their limitations, and most importantly, vulnerabilities to denial attacks. >>5151 Consumes surprisingly huge amounts of metered electricity.

>Owning a cheap small apartament on the center of the city just wanted to push back on this idea some people delude themselves into, that 'cheap' apartments/housing and the like are a thing that exist in most places; there is this fantasy that, oh, there will be something so small and crappy (i dont mind tho! just need enough space for me, my futon, laptop and cigarette butts) that even a poor like me could afford it, and particularly not anywhere in the middle of the city and particularly if you don't have a real income and no savings from being NEET. No, unfortunately you need to be a proper human being with some kinda proper job working proper hours to be able to live in any such place (yes i'm also addressing myself from 5 years ago)

>>5293 In the center of a city maybe not, but in a city? Yes. But yes, obviously anything downtown is too expensive even if have a job.

>>5293 note "proper job" can include selling drugs or other illicit activity. The main advantage of a soykafty apartment is that the landlord won't ask questions or demand to see proof of employment.

Install Linux, be gay, do crime. Live in a bad neighborhood and do hacker soykaf.

>>5304 Sometimes they'll be pissy about it anyway. One of my apartments was basically a hovel and they still charged a fortune for location and tried to raise rent disregarding contract. Sometimes landlords are just assholes.

>>5309 They also required proof of income/employment.

>>4655 what is the extent of the military's knowledge you have witnessed?

We live a brave new world brand kind of dystopia. Technology is basically consumerism and entertainment for most people. Corporations use technology to keep us hooked for every notification, every tech release and we love it. Antidepressants use have increased worldwide. People use drugs to get productive, back in time, drugs were used for recreational or religious purposes, and then rather than getting angry at the system we dope ourselves up.

Cyberpunk is about being an oasis of humanity despite a world of robots. >>5309, >>5309 has it backwards. It's not that deteriorated apartments are unmanaged, but that unmanaged apartments deteriorate. Unmanaged apartments let tenants do anything that's not patent damage. The benefit to a cyberpunk is that certain activities that enhance one's humanity are proscribed by management. That's why deteriorated apartments seem cyberpunk.

>>5329 I think it's a bit of both. Pain for the lower-cast, and pleasure for the affluent.

>>5530 In one part yes, if you don't mind things like asbestos & lead piping on top of constantly trying to shift rant upwards with passive-aggressive flatly illegal notes.

>5530 >>5330

>>5293 Don't underestimate cheap offices, especially in this environment. Assuming you don't live in a top 25 city (and even then) you can find some cheap places in top 200 cities here in the US.

>>4335 What does goth have anything to do with what we are talking about? In case you don't know goth isn't the same as punk buddy

Punk is not political philosophy. But there were political movements trying to hijack it. In reality punks belong to broad spectrum of political worldviews. Goth is a subgenre of Punk or at least is strongly tied to it and rooted in it. Asking is Goth Punk is kinda like asking is Crust Punk or is Hardcore Punk. Cyber "goth" is not Goth. It's an offshot of EBM and techno. EBM descends from Industrial.

>>4304 come to live here in Argentina we dont have flying cars and soykaf but the fuarrrking country is ruled by pharmaceutical corporations now

>>5778 You just described several first world countries

>>5778 you may as well be talking about the US.

>>4433 Isn't that soykaf terribly outdated? Tor probably is no longer safe

Cybergronk

>>4657 > didn't YET reach the required level of socialist interventionism that would make it possible. Nobody outside the USA uses this definition of socialism > Without government supported participation in monopoly on violence it is not possible for corporation to have an army that acts in a given country as "corporational armed arm". Read about the East India Company or the VOC; it's happened before and it can happen again

>>4661 >>4663 "The first person who, having enclosed a plot of land, took it into his head to say this is mine and found people simple enough to believe him was the true founder of civil society. What crimes, wars, murders, what miseries and horrors would the human race have been spared, had some one pulled up the stakes or filled in the ditch and cried out to his fellow men: "Do not listen to this imposter. You are lost if you forget that the fruits of the earth belong to all and the earth to no one!" Jean-Jacques Rousseau, The Social Contract (1762)

>>5823 >The first person who, having enclosed a plot of land, took it into his head to say this is mine and found people simple enough to believe him was the true founder of civil society That person is a wolf, marking its territory by peeing on a tree. Doesn't look like they have a civil society going on, Jean-Jacques.

Just live the high tech low life

>>4311 came here to post this, but probably would have been way less articulate had I so really I'll just say to OP >why would you want to? '>>4304

>>5822 > Nobody outside the USA uses this definition of socialism The average american has so little actual control over their politics or economy that our common political theories on economy are as retarded as "more laws" = liberalism, "less laws" = conservative. I swear I've had teachers draw this out on the board to give an entire class permanent brain-damage. Any political theory that doesn't deal with the specifics of what the laws is, how it will be enforced or who will benefit from is political brainwashing. For example, telecoms: they use all sorts of laws to prevent competition from startups, municipal services, or just individuals setting up their own mesh. But they don't champion regulation. Oh no, they openly champion and sponsor free market politicians. They kept lobbying to not be classified as a public utility, repeal net-neutrality, repeal privacy protections, and are now lobbying to let them sell your data to credit companies. All that in the name of the freemarket. Abolishing pole, access laws and allowing personal telecom networks is "less government" but is to our benefit at the detriment of the government and corporations. At the same time privacy protections, or just breaking up big cooporations is "more government" but is still to our benefit ant the cost of both the government and corporations. Anyone repeating the "more vs less government" framing should be actively and aggressively combatted for they are serving the interests of both the government and corporations.

>>5838 finally someone who gets it! ive been arguing this with coworkers forever.

>>5839 And don't get me started on political compass nerds. You're just adding an extra dimension to your kool-aid political theory and acting like you're a genius. Y'all should understand that the guiding behavior of the market is people's material interests. Pretending that politics isn't the same way is just convienent to the people currently getting all their material interests.

>>5838 >>5840 What you are saying makes sense, could you link anything more on the topic?

>>5847 idk, Das Capital? I don't know if there's much written on that specific brain damage that isn't some "libertarian" promoting it. But the whole concept of politics and economy being intimately tied is fundamental Marx.

>>5847 Chomsky's "Manufacturing Consent" discusses the false choice presented to the American public and how discourse is subtly controlled. It's a bit dated now though, I'd probably listen to a podcast about it rather than read the whole book.

>>4312 >ancient >2010ish ................ I used a windows 98 computer back in 2009 myself and use a 2009ish win7 computer now. *checks* yes, 2009, dell latitude 2100. it is my most fav computer that I use more than other devices. I got it for 68 usd a year or two ago, before that I was using a b130 dell inspiron from farther back than that to the point it's from that gray/black tank computer style. Like 2005ish? I don't know, but older ram in any case, more primitive BIOS, naturally glare resistant where in contrast this netbook 2100 lat is trying to be glare resistant, of which is of it's nicest feature. Both have a ruggedness to them. I also, due to being a neet, bought a pi zero and want to learn how to use picore with it, basically the dsl (damn small linux) for the raspberry pi's. I have a very old computer, pent 3 I think in the closet I bought for like 12 usd, it has alike a ghz point 2, as in 1.2ish ghz, processor, winxp, I may put tinycore on that, it's fully loaded distro so I can finally learn how good it might be, because as it is I've not got the pi zero working right, but the tower, thing weighs literally 35ish lbs, would work I think. I just threw away a crt, that's another part of this blog post, it was damaged and only showing black and white, but what was curious to me is that the tv crt had a celeron intel sticker on it. I decided to trash it anyway, now I have hardly a crt left these days. I plan on buying a drone headset and hooking a pi 3 or 4 into it to use it as a 'vr' headset for anything the pi wants to output with it's composit out, then trash the zero eventually if it never becomes a glorified mp4 player using picore. I wanted to read books and have midi files on the picore, maybe tetris. That's all. But anyway, my life is a cyberpunk dystopia indeed. Oh, the waveshare I have for the zero is a pirated waveshare and is now no longer sold by amazon, it is said to only get 15fps. Another reason I abandoned lakka or retropie as an option for it, though playing rpgs on it could be a thing. It's bad though, zero for even snes a bit. Missing screens, slow on gba games I tried, etc. Meandering apology goes here. But I think if I don't get the 200ish kit in total for the headset of a pi, when you include it all it's be 197 for many periferals, I'll get a coolbaby console or something to add to my cheap android phones that I feel cringey using. Coolbaby looks aesthetic and can kinda do n64 as well as my old win9x could have in 2009, probably better, I can live with it X3 Image of it, it has shoulder buttons, just two, and even normal usb's for my old devices to plug into the android device. And android 5 is it's version, better than 4.4, and beyond 5 is just bloat for androids me thinks, so though people bitch about the coolbaby (and I hate that glowing logo so much myself) I think it's a good choice for my cyber lifestyle/fetish. In retrospect, i should not have wasted peripherals and all on a price gouged pi zero and got a pocketchip, but back then amazon didn't have one, and they no longer do now. Those have a debian with a gui, I think I could have had a really cool glorified mp4 out of that and got an nes to run on it for tetris and such. But rip, it's no longer anywhere, but was 80ish usd this time last year if I recall on amazon, though is now gone. That would have been more cyber. When I learned about pocketgo I realized it was soykaf and all and would be hard to use but I also learned about it by doing research that actually led me to lainchan talking about it before they went out of business. It's fun for me to reminisce about. Or would have been had I got one. I need something other than the old computers, the cheap android devices, at least some android console or linux gaming console, but there's soooo many. Maybe I should do the drone headset method. More parts, more things to repair, more alterable, and it'd be the most cyber. Everything can be blocked out and just keep the Internet on your face, or put lakka sd in (assuming not dual booting an sd to death) and play games on your face, nes-n64ish, wouldn't that be ideal? And they don't weigh a lot either, but I wish it were a helmet. I hate those straps. I would like to bump it up ideally to over 200ish usd to include an actual 3d printed helmet for it so it can lay off the nose. Also it could contain the wires hanging all around your head ideally..... /meander

>>5853 You can always just watch the documentary.

Cyberpunk style definition is very subjective. I don't claim that my view is in any way more universal than others in this thread but here is a few things that I consider cyberpunkish > Proficient in thechonology – knowing how to code at least > System exploitation – bending rules for your own benefit > Being independent – unemployment, rejection of mass media, using money as a tool to acomplish things and not to raise ones social status > Privacy – staying out of goverment/corporational radar > Punky appearance – weird clothes taste, like gothninja soykaf, dyed hair, piercing, maybe even tattos (cyberpunk aesthethic) > Body modification – usage of exogenous hormones or plastic surgeries

>>5863 not op but >knowing how to code Impossible. >bending rules They're rigged to be unbreakable. >independent It takes a village to make a man. >privacy Impossible. >punky appearance If you are an attention whore that wants to be bullied while into self humiliation. >implication of transgenderism please

>>5872

>>5872 >Transgender bodify modification is closest thing to Transhumanism we have. >Take this feminine penis lain.

>>5855 >>5857 On second thought, adding games through possibly a store, or having to hack against it, is faggy as hell, and it'd be moar cyber to make pic related into your computer, though the price is higher it's obviously more cyber. Drone headsets seem to have composit in, the 3.5mm kind that pi's seem to be able to output. I'd put lakka and raspbian on it and if all you need to do is alter the config file then it'd output to the composit lcd inside the drone headset, assuming drones only have one eye and not two that is. Otherwise you'd be making a visor and end up just drilling a big hole in one eye, of which is actually, again, though soykafty, cyber still. You can drive while you game! I think it's just one screen but I'm too neet for this soykaf so I'm stuck on old business laptops still and cheap android phones op. The selected amazon items are 197 usd, or were but the prices are going up it seems on their soykaf. Some android consoles that were 115 are 300+ right now. (((G4yz))). >image name implies that you're too close to the screen to see the corners potentially so inb4 no one gets the joek

>>5885 Oh, just to clarify, I'd make the thing into a hat and have the battery and pi glued to the sides of the hat probably, with wires hanging around. Goggles are dump anyway and making it into a helmet would be so much better. It'd take the pressure off the nose, so I'd get a hat I like then glue a bowl to the outside of the hat, removing the brim and all, I'd glue the stuff to the helmet outside, and then glue that strap stuff to the helmet too. Paint it black, etc. Play lakka and raspbian, never take it off, put a camera on the outside, only dreams now, etc.

>>4304 >flying cars People have made cheap ultralight aircrafts you know.

>>5858 so much fake on that website

>>5863 >privacy >punky appearance Aren't these contradictory? If you're trying to keep private, you shouldn't call attention to yourself. It's unfortunate how many things automatically attract attention - people see red flags when you tell them you don't use social media, for instance - but I'd think one would want to minimize that as much as possible. Of course you *should* stay private as possible, like encrypt your data, avoid megacorps, etc., but don't you think it starts at making yourself as least suspicious as possible? Similar to how metadata leaks can compromise your entire privacy setup, your appearance and personality can set off alarm bells in people who are looking to investigate your actions. 'Hacker' laptop stickers confuse me in the same way...

>>5918 Yes and no. While lack of privacy is a social problem that must be fought by keeping certain practices, punky soykaf is also a manner of fighting social "unfairness" in a way. Maybe a distopian "memory" reaches the mind and makes some people think being punked is some common street subculture, but they forget is was like in the 80s or 90s. Being a punk hacker would work in such context, where you walk with a bunch of "drunk losers" dwelling in dirty alleys that deserves little attention in an urban middle. Nowadays, soykaf is just about fashion and style, so it would attract attention, since it's anachronystic and different from today's insipid standards. Let's say the best way to be private is pretending not to care about privacy, void of any style that looks like dressing from an age where style was fun, listening to soykaf music and never complaining about progress.

>>4661 >However corporate lobbyists are pushing anti free market reforms. Like for example software patents. Good that such attempts have failed in EU and we have no software patent laws here. Calling those "anti free market" is utterly absurd because the people who keep software patents in the US would call also call repealing those "anti free market". Calling any policy pro or anti Free Market is frankly a meaningless concept that everyone bends to their material interest. What's really at stake here is whether or not something should be claimable as private property and the default answer in any capitalist society is "YES". You might think that's not capitalist or "anti free market" because it requires government enforcement but so does copy-rights, mineral-rights, land deeds, trademarks, contracts, stocks, literally any form of private property is backed by the government. If you don't like that then you're not a capitalist but some sort of anarcho-socialist or mutualist.

>>7280 ah, but what if we got rid of the government and everyone protected their own private property and agreed to protect each others'??? surely that would not lead to a significant change in the meaning and execution of private property, it would be the exact same just with more freedom!

>>7283 How does everyone agree who owns what? Where do the land property lines get drawn? Is intellectual property a thing still? Should there be things that shouldn't be claimed as private property like parks or sewer systems? Its only utpoian in theory but in practice most people won't go along with it. Tenants aren't going to respect the property rights of a landlord and you can't blame them for defending their home. The only way for everyone to respect everyone else's property rights is if there's a lot more collective ownership going around. You'll end up with something more like syndicalism or market socialism than capitalism.

>>7283 >What if everyone just spontaneously dismantled the structures of incredible power around us and then instead of descending into chaos they all spontaneously decided to do the right thing You may as well be shaking your fist at the sky for raining upon you. This is so devoid of understanding of how power works. What is the mechanism that drives this? What motivates people to do these things in large enough number, against history, and how would that thing not be another state? This won't work. You have to start with power, because power is all there is. And power will always be in our heads, even if we destroyed all currently existing power. We can't run and hide—we have to learn to live WITH power.

Anarchists only ever accomplish the opposite of what the set out to do. They are pitiable pawns of the power elite. Bumbling suckers. Punk is a joke. Seen a punk house post-2012 or so? Just a bunch of excommunication, rape allegations, and gestapo tactics. And endless dick-sucking of the status quo. They are even more conformist now than the general population. They love to listen to the experts. They love to manipulate others into doing so as well. Has punk died? Yes. Many times, and it still keeps resurrecting. But it should have stayed dead. The bitter truth is that fash punks in the 70s were the better side of punk this whole time.

>>4312 >ancient macbook (early early early 2010s) you call that ancient, kid? really?

>>7295 That is really cool.

>>7295 lainchan has a bbs?

>>7294 ah yes, fascism, that famously successful political movement. remind me again how many fascist states there are today? ideologically fascist, not implicitly fascist like the United States you users are even bigger failures than tankies and are in eternal cope mode that fascism is only a means to an end during crises of capital rather than an ideology that will ever have any lasting power. if you weren't pathetic sore losers like tankies and a good deal of anarchists who idolize failed 20th century movements, you'd at least become post-right

>>7294 >neurosuggesting there aren't successful 30-year old anarchist regions including one the size of iceland If you're going to derail with politics, at least don't write unsubstantiated bullsh­it.

>>7304 >>7295 Neat and interesting. I wonder what computers can post here? I'm an eternal noob so I am confused. But it's interesting.

>>7306 >successful 30-year old anarchist regions including one the size of iceland What are those?

>>5809 Is any digital soykaf safe?

>>4304 I don't think cyberpunk is as much about a lifestyle as worldbuilding. Our world isn't too different from the worlds in lots of cyberpunk media. Certain tech is less advanced or more advanced than those in fiction depending on which story you're talking about but I can see a lot of the themes predicted in these works being played out today. Robocop -- there is large amounts of high-tech military grade police equipment used to control the population. We don't have metal men patrolling the streets (yet) but a lot of the stuff cops use today they could hardly dream of using back in the 80s, soykaf like tazer shields and giant riot control tanks. Blade runner -- we don't have tons of flying cop cars but small-scale flying vehicles are definitely a thing. And like in the world of blade runner they are only for the wealthy and powerful. If we did have mass-produced flying cars that could park on the street they would be for millionaire playboys and cops, not for us. And we wouldn't be all soyboy starry-eyed about their presence. For other themes... people are obsessed with digital entertainment, we spend a huge amount of time just consuming stuff from a screen. Look at vtubers and vocaloids, people rig themselves to 3D models of anime girls and stream themselves playing games online, and they flock to concerts where an anime girl is performing on a stage using a big screen. This stuff could come straight out of a Gibson novel.

>>7309 The Zapatista's autonomous zone in Chiapas Mexico. I have no idea what that Lainon meant about the size of Iceland or where that is referring to.

Sadly, you're already living it.

>>7399 Pic related. > The body was too long-enough, thanks.

>>7391 The Zapatista's autonomous zone has a population of about 360k while Iceland has 370k, that might be what he's referring to.

>>7399 Your post remids me of pic related kek

>>7412 Woh i had no idea it was that populous.

>>4658 Strongly disagree with that. People who dress like punks may be punks, but not in the sense of the "punk" in cyberpunk. Their anti-system attitude is shallow at best and being a freakshow is not helpful. Punks are just low IQ substance abusers (not necessarily hard drugs). They are outdated. The punk philosophy is good, but don't get fooled by the people who worship the packaging. Just join a local CCC chapter and be aware that those people there are bootlickers who care mostly about pronouns, but at least it gets closest to the "cyber" aspect.

>>7305 ever considered that the reason that the big empire type governments (USA, sepcifically) allow failed systems to exist and crack down on successful ones is because of geopolitical interests? Fascism is dangerous, because it works. Unenlightened dictatorships, socialist hellholes and democracies are stifling and thus need no intervention.

After watching https://youtube.com/watch?v=aUMNOnT7hgc and reading all the positive comments, I am honestly frightened. The title is bait, it's not really a city with no cars, what would have been much more interesting to put into the title would be the fact that this city is in effect a district for the sake of a single corporation mainly, tencent. Looking at the way all of it is designed (or at least narrated), I cannot imagine living a fulfilling life. That's the most optimal possible way of being just a cog in a big machine, I would seriously be frightened by suicidal thoughts living in a system like that. Here's to hoping china doesn't show the world the recipe for human domestication. Anyone who wants to subject themselves to "cyberpunk" should consider living there so I don't have to.

decorate your room and dress cyberpunk even when staying inside

>>4304 cyberpunk is real if your a sought after criminal that is a hacker in china or smth like that. I think

>>4304 "I made this artistic representation of how I'd like my neet life to be more cyberpunk. Those folding mini-bicycles cost as much as their shipping does and tiny homes of any kind red tape chokes to death as a possibility; ergo the upper right should be a real nice cabin tent (of which is way less cyberpunk)." >4.9 approx. mb big file takes too long to upload and times out over and over Guess I'll just make it half a mb then.

>>7696 What is that can thing under the table?

>>7697 Not that Lainon but I own it. It's a plastic portable stool. It collapses to a 1 inch disk via telescoping cylinder design with a locking mechanism on each cylinder layer you can see in the pic. The two holes on top are just for finger grips when opening or closing it.

>>7698 Yes it is. >>7697 Also it has an adjustable shoulder strap around it's rim and came with a sort of book bag. It claims to hold like 260 lbs but also there is a 15 usd version along with the 30ish one that I got. It's mostly plastic with a metal bottom.

>>7700 It does hold that weight so long as it's properly locked. My mom weighs almost that much and she uses it for waiting in lines and stuff. Makes me nervous sitting on it though because I feel just one little peice of plastic break or one little mislatched section and you're going down. Id like to see the design in something other than plastic perhaps carbon fiber.

>>7702 Stainless Steel.

>>7703 Then it'd weight too much to go hiking around with when you include the rest of your mobile stuff. That and if they make something to last the business goes under of course. Present Day, Present Time! AHAHAHAHAHA!

>>7705 (me) >try to delete >wrong password *weigh

>>5110 you are incredibly disconnected from the actual reality of the world, most people in the americas, slavic world, africa, poorer parts of asia live like absolute soykaf, sorrounded of violent people addicted to some form of substance, criminals, insecurity, poverty all with (seemingly) no way of getting out.

> I mean, we still don't have body implanted tech we do though, lol https://dangerousthings.com/ https://walletmor.com/ I've ordered my walletmor a few days ago, im gonna get it implanted once it arrives.

>>8477 Get out of city, have biological eyes and ears everywhere (they are called neighbour).

>>4311 Humans aren't mentally built to be sedentary creatures like civilization and media encourages nowadays. We evolved in an era where excitement was common, for better or worse. In that regard it makes sense that people secretly want to be resistance members, criminals, cyberpunk cops, etc. that are all thematic of the genre. Turns out none of the "cyberpunk media" accurately portrayed a dystopia, because human nature was allowed to run free regardless of all the fictional civilization's failings. We're living in the "boring cyberpunk dystopia." Basically the same as the cyberpunk media, but without the cool lights and our souls are crushed rather than invigorated.

>>8477 Most people don't get this these days. The original characters in cyberpunk, heroes or anti-heroes, were against the grain of their fictional realities, whether they had altruistic or criminal intentions, or both. Even the ones centered around police heroes show them either directly resisting or going under the radar of the corrupt system they were employed by. Cyberpunk is neither a utopia nor a dystopia but a heterotopia.

the cyberpunk future is more likely to be flying bikes than flying cars

>>8693 I think something that needs to be said is that people can have both criminal and altruistic intentions because the law is not always right. For example: MLK Jr, or a HK protestor for example.

>>4304 Civilian flying machines are definitely a reality today. I've seen fan paragliding done by civilians on youtube and it is quite cheap to setup for under $500 even if you are highly technical. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TlbQ0xbbpOQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rvQ9DjJNal0 If you are willing to put time, effort and money into this you could accomplish quite a lot.

>>7420 It's a similar situation in South Korea where Samsung operates from. They have their own little city for employees. The single corporation makes a big part of the country's gdp, so they do everything to support it. Asia already took the step to decide if one wants to live in a poor rural area or join the corporation controlled city.

>>4334 >>4335 >>7260 Its music.

if you are motivated by aesthetics hack your brain to use it as an advantage. i was also really into cyberpunk and it helped motivate me to learn computer engineering and now i can build pretty much anything i want with code and electronics. now i'm leaning more towards solarpunk because i'd rather live in a utopia.

>>7420 If it paid well, I don't really see a problem, but the work culture and 996 is soykaftier than I can tolerate. I wouldn't mind FANGMAN coasting on 10 hrs a week and living in an gated network provided by my employer and 200k TC.

>>8476 >chipping yourself with soykaf that can track you are you stoned or stupid?

There were these guys sometime ago that lived in a mall in secret in an unused part https://trummerkind.com/mall/What_Happened.html https://archive.org/details/youtube-1CHTlXpsFx8

>>4430 LULZ I was gonna post this

>>4430 The truth is: this is the future. You might as well get started on developing this skill, if not just to make sure you can keep up.

>>4325 Sometimes I have the feeling that cyberpunk suffers under the imposed aesthetics and stories, you dont spend 95% of your life under a raincoat in a neon lit backalley hunting for androids. But there is a potential in the meatspace for the small actions.

>>4304 >How can I live in a cyberpunk lifestyle today? There is this guy that got quite far to peak cyberlife by shoving an SBC inside his ass and compiling Linux.

>>13875 no homo? sounds gay. much homo. the future is all about gays (low lives) and machines. if you want to be a "cyberpunk", you must be a degenerate and be able to manipulate "the machine". if you can hack it for your own gain, while being a raging homoglitterboy, you win. if you get buttraped by straightcorps, you lose. simple.

>>13875 impressive. very cool. i think i can achieve a similar effect using my benis hole :DDD

>>4430 fuarrrk spy fiction is never not cool

>>4430 This makes me wonder if there is any cyberpunk media that is from the perspective of someone who is just helpless from not having enough knowledge as an average person and cant even get tech second hand since it is destroyed entirely from futuristic planned obsolescence and subscription service lockout.

>>13881 >>13881 >>13881 >>13881 feels like a plot beat out of The Fifth Element

>>4304 OP you should stick an SBC up your urethra and then have it compile Linux.

>>12466 NFC, as the name implies, is NEAR field. "Near" being 2 inches. It's not something that can be used to track you. Way better to just use your face/eyes for that, since you can see those from much larger distances than 2 inches. Stop talking out of your ass.