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Wi-Fi Load Balancer with DD-WTR

Hiro Protagonist · 2019-03-23 00:03
Im currently stealing wi-fi from 4 neighbours, and i want to connect to all of them, load balance the connections and make my own wi-fi network from that, someone told me that with a router with DD-WTR i could do it, but since i live in a 3rd world country, there's only old hardware. So the questions: - Is it possible to do it? - Do i need a lot of networking/coding knowledge/How hard is to archive? - What is the best hardware/software to do it? Thanks chummers
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2019-03-23 02:45
>>2807 >Is it possible to do it? Yes >Do i need a lot of networking/coding knowledge/How hard is to archive? You won't need to know how to program, nor have anything more than a skin deep understanding of networking, configuring things is unlikely to take much time. >What is the best hardware/software to do it? Best hardware might be a old computer running Pfsense with four wireless adapters each with a directional antenna (to cut down on interference) and a fifth wireless adapter with a omnidirectional antenna and support for master-mode. You can follow a tutorial like the following: https://www.tecmint.com/how-to-setup-failover-and-load-balancing-in-pfsense/ You'll want the select the wireless adapters based on linux support, high wattage, removable antennas and supply of directional antennas. I think using DDWRT wouldn't be ideal because you'd need 4 routers, it'd be difficult to get directional antennas for them, installing DDWRT 4 times would take a second, and in the end you'd have something you couldn't reuse for other projects if you end up in a different situation later. Note not having a directional antenna isn't the end of the world. Also you can set of a squid proxy once you're done with this to improve your wireless performance and reduce the amount of bandwidth you borrow. Best of luck!
Tank · 2019-03-23 05:28
>>2808 i have some antennas and an old laptop to try so i will follow it, i apreciate the effort, thanks annon
Splicer · 2019-03-23 13:30
>>2807 Lmao, you're too brave. I'd be using a directional antenna, and trying to get the best balance between gain and distance. Just incase they go monitoring their network activity.
Motoko Kusanagi · 2019-03-23 13:49
>>2811 nah annon, they only use internet for netflix/instagram/twitter and google homework, ill be safe
Unidentified · 2019-03-23 13:52
>>2812 You can get ridiculous distance with a directional antenna though, my dude. That also decreases the amount of suspicion, since they'll suspect their neighbours before the person living across the harbor (or whatever geographical feature suits).
Haruyoshi · 2019-03-24 16:42
>>2809 >i have some antennas and an old laptop to try so i will follow it, i apreciate the effort, thanks annon sounds good lain, I was happy to help. Feel free to post again if you run into any troubles, I tend to not be around but if I am I'll try to help again. >>2812 >nah annon, they only use internet for netflix/instagram/twitter and google homework, ill be safe It is really easy to MITM people doing this. You don't need to do anything more than only use secure protocols like https, ssh, and sftp to be completely safe from this though. >>2813 >You can get ridiculous distance with a directional antenna though, my dude. That also decreases the amount of suspicion, since they'll suspect their neighbours before the person living across the harbor (or whatever geographical feature suits). It's not illegal to use someone else's wireless network unless you cracked their password using aircrack-ng or similar. Also keep in mind that this directional antenna would only be on one of the end points meaning you're not going to be able to get the crazy mile long ranges people get when using two directional antennas. I primarily suggested it so that the five high power wireless devices in a small area don't interfere with one another resulting in dropped packets.
Agent Jones · 2019-03-29 21:59
How to into neighbors wifi?
The Fin · 2019-03-31 22:47
This is harder than it sounds. You need to use channel bonding. You can do it for free with linux or there is a windows/osx/android VPN product called speedify that is sort of ok.
Agent Richard Gill · 2019-04-04 13:41
>>2824 Besside, knowledge of generic passwords from ISP and a lot of bruteforce >>2831 I kind of like it being hard, since i do this as a hobby, currently learning pfsense since it has a lot of cool things it can be used
Lain Iwakura · 2019-04-04 15:19
>>2808 Anon, What about using OpenWRT instead of Pfsense?
Morpheus · 2019-04-04 17:20
>>2831 >This is harder than it sounds. You need to use channel bonding. That's not load-balancing, but it might be what lain actually wanted. Load balancing only speeds up parallel downloads, channel bonding speeds up parallel and singular downloads. >>2844 That'd be fine, here's a tutorial: https://wiki.openwrt.org/doc/howto/mwan3
Unspecified · 2019-04-05 05:23
>>2844 If you have an old computer then you are more likely better running pfsense than OpenWrt for doing what OP seems to want, the advise should be running OPNsense instead of pfsense
Fred Nurk · 2019-06-20 15:25
>>2814 >It is really easy to MITM people doing this. You don't need to do anything more than only use secure protocols like https, ssh, and sftp to be completely safe from this though. You are not safe from MITM by simply using HTTPS. There is sslstrip that the MITM can run to downgrade/strip the SSL without you knowing.
Drano · 2019-06-21 01:51
>>3288 iirc sslstrip intercepts the ssl upgrade request/redirect, so you're safe from sslstrip if you go directly to (for example) https://lainchan.org instead of lainchan.org. you can do this automatically by turning on httpnowhere option in httpseverywhere
Sin · 2019-06-21 09:02
Since seeing this thread, I'm really interested in doing this! I have two concerns however... > Stealing the Wi-Fi How exactly WOULD I be able to get into my neighbours Wi-Fi, without a password crack of some kind? Plus, most services have the default password as something that would take centuries to be able to get into realistically. Sorry if this is a stupid question, to all the smarties out there. [>~>) > Completion As someone like me who has zero experience messing with antennas, what would the difficulty of this project be for me? Let's say from 1 - 5. "1" being downloading and plugging in a few things and "5" being "Brainiac Lainon". Hahahaha. Anyways I would love to see an update on this if the chance arises. Stayed wired Lainons, ~Sin
Haruyoshi · 2019-06-21 21:04
>>3290 >>3290 >How exactly WOULD I be able to get into my neighbours Wi-Fi, without a password crack of some kind? Plus, most services have the default password as something that would take centuries to be able to get into realistically So, I hacked about 5 from 11 wifis in my close proximity just by looking at few tips and tricks. First I noted down the default SSID names in my proximity and seen the ISPs that provide those routers, searched those routers on local selling sites to find out what is the usual scheme of default password (which most people don't change and thank you all those computerely disabled people selling their routers that take the pic of the important info). Next, I also noted how many non default SSIDs there were and what they were. All of them were WPA2. I captured the handshakes using airmon-ng (there are tuts online) and used hashcat to crack the default passwords on ISP given routers and used dictionary attack with rule set on those that aren't default. Of course, my old rig can't handle any important load so I opened trial version of Amazon Web Service server to play around with their Ubuntu install. After I saw how soykaf their free trial version is (and how much they throttled me after just an hour of hashcat crunching) I just added a fake card that "worked" (ie luhn algorithm worked, but you can easily just make a virtual credit card just by fuarrrking around on skrill and transferring crypto around) and then just rented a Tesla GPU server. Worked like a charm. I still owe them like 15$ or something like that but whole experience was fun. The interesting part was how I got the serial number of the router to get into admin panel of the router to turn the ssh on the router and get into the low level stuff of ISP logins and Mitm. FYI, I never profited from my ventures, just like going in adventures that lead nowhere good.
Cutter · 2019-06-21 21:04
>>3291 >The interesting part was how I got the serial number of the router to get into admin panel of the router to turn the ssh on the router and get into the low level stuff of ISP logins and Mitm. That is a story for next time btw so I will leave you at that, happy hacking
Spooky · 2019-06-21 21:08
>>2807 I suggest you buy a cheapo old router, instal OpenWRT on it, install multipath tcp plugin on it and connect all 4 wifis to it and then ethernet it to another router or to your PC. Also you would need a multipath tcp proxy (an optically connected server in big nearby city will suffice) to combine all those internet up/down speeds into one, but you will essentially have 4x the speeds instead of just load balancing your speed. Also, can we get an F in the chat about how low the number of multipath tcp supporting sites and services is out there in the wild? :/
Joe Bloggs · 2019-06-22 19:56
There is a service called speedify that will allow channel bonding multiple interfaces on a osx or windows machine (I know). They have a free tier and they accept prepaid credit cards but I can't remember what I had to do if anything. It's zero log VPN too so .. yay.
Koichiro · 2019-06-23 20:51
>>3298 >this nibba trusts VPNs word opinion discarded
Guthrie · 2019-06-23 20:53
>>3298 also, just fuarrrking read the "channel bonding" marketing gimmick, its just fuarrrking multipath tcp
Unnamed · 2019-06-24 11:56
>>3303 I surf the web with my PC unplugged, it's the only way I can be SURE.
Chani · 2019-06-25 10:28
>>3312 If I had data that needed to be kept that secret, I would segregate it.
Crazy Jake · 2019-06-25 13:48
This thread kinda gave me an idea, idk who plausible it is but heck it sounds interesting, so I'm considering building a connection multiplexer at software level. The main way it would work would be it would try connecting to each of the given networks to ensure they work, it would take over the network manager or create a virtual network, I don't know yet (probably the former since it needs to use the NM to multiplex the connections anyways) Is this a decent idea? not like it would stop me if it wasn't really, just out of curiosity. Anyways thanks lainons :)
Jane Doe · 2019-06-25 15:04
>>3318 Lag will probably be your biggest problem.
Demeere · 2019-06-25 16:17
>>3314 Sure you would mister "let me just use VPN"
Sin · 2019-06-26 03:50
>>2807 Hey, Sin again. I'm sure you already completed this project but I'm interested in doing it and would love to get into contact with you since you seem smart and cool haha. my email is darkkiller215@yahoo.com ^ old cringy email I made when I was younger.
Judge Fang · 2019-06-26 11:26
Oddly I've had this same idea before. Can such a setup allow for higher connection speeds? Say you send packets divided between all the connections.
Roger Pollack · 2019-07-11 04:56
>It's not illegal to use someone else's wireless network unless you cracked their password using aircrack-ng or similar. Jurisdiction dependent. Since it is stealing, I wouldn't be surprised if there's a jurisdiction in which it's illegal, but since it's stupid to not protect something when it takes no more than an hour's work for lifetime security (lifetime of the thing you are securing, or you, whichever ends sooner, as the lawyers would say ;), I wouldn't be surprised if there's a jurisdiction which specifically doesn't ban bandwidth theft, if you can manage to do it, that is..
fsociety · 2019-07-11 05:27
>>3325 Hey Sin, if you're going to post under a name, you should look into PGP, so that you can sign posts, so that we can know that it's the same person posting under the name "Sin". Also, look into getting multiple email addresses, and use each with only one correspondent. this helps with avoiding and tracking spam. if you get spam at only one address, it may be coincidence, but give that correspondent the new address and discontinue the old one. if spam arrives at the new address, it's pretty high chance that the data leak is at that correspondent. let them know that they may have a data leak, and if they claim to have fixed it, change it again. if you keep getting spam after they claim to have fixed the leak, the only solution is to choose to whether you continue to correspond with them via email and get spam to that inbox (which will mean you will have to do more work in reading their email, because you'll have to read their mail in a separate folder, since you won't want to add that to your aggregate inbox), or correspond with them only through some other medium, which will be less convenient than email, since, unlike email, other media tend to be difficult to program around, making it more difficult to send text and files in the way that is convenient for you. Also, don't trust any promises of 'secure' email, encrypt it yourself, on your machine, using your keys. Also, rather than finding the best privacy policy (which they'll only have to pretend to follow), look for the one that asks for necessary data only. Cock.li asks for desired email address and password, and a simple, non-botnet (!!), capcha. Does anyone know any other email servers like that? This probably isn't the thread for that, though, unless you think of some way to use multiple email addresses for stealing more WiFi. Sorry for the tangent.
Eldon Tyrell · 2019-07-19 17:48
>>3325 >tripfagging >real email You sure love targetted dont you? Also OP here, i finally couldnt do it since both pf and opnsense gave me a hard time with the wireless antennas, and i just kind of got bored and droped it, might take it again in the future and post results
Unnamed · 2019-08-14 05:59
>>2808 >pfsense >linux support What
Project 2501 · 2019-08-31 16:46
>>3361 Dude go read the cfaa. It's practically illegal to do anything on the internet.
sage · 2019-09-01 01:20
>>3361 The laws here makes legal to catch every signal under your property, but obviously illegal to crack someone else privacy