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Do you guys think that building things has therapeutic value? I think when we create stuff, it’s like we’re leaving a piece of ourselves in the world. It helps us deal with the fact that life is short and everything fades away. Building something, whether it’s a piece of furniture, a piece of art, a project at work or whatever, gives us a sense of purpose and permanence. It’s like Aristotle said about achieving true happiness through meaningful activities. By building and creating we find a way to transcend the temporary nature of life and leave a lasting impact. What do you guys think?

i think you're delusional but my head isn't clear enough to argue rn. maybe you're even right except that when you don't have enough skills to build something you think worthy of building and when you know you'll never acquire those skills it has an effect opposite of therapeutic. only certain kinds of low challenge games succeed to provide me with good enough escapism. and sometimes books. but most of the time i just try my best to depersonate and dodge demiruge lest he seizes my soul completely. i had one relatively good month recently when i didn't at least feel dejected but now i'm down again. >leaving a piece of ourselves in the world Epictetus argued that scratching a stone is equally well leaving a piece of ourselves in the world, i tend to agree with him. fuarrrk the world and fuarrrk leaving marks in it. waste of time. shameless cope. >life is short and everything fades away i fail to see how this is bad. it makes life relatively easy to bear because years go by quickly so your suffering is relatively short albeit agonizing. >gives us a sense of purpose and permanence doesn't give me soykaf. i guess you're just normal and healthy. >true happiness what's untrue happiness? do you know anything of happiness? >meaningful activities there's no such thing. all value and meaning are arbitrarily crafted by your brain and are theoretically infinitely flexible if you're not stupid. >What do you guys think? if you can be happy good for you, but instead of bragging you could just say that you're happy doing whatever it is you're doing. then people would just say 'glad for you anon' and that'd be it. now you pretend to start a discussion and do you even realize how empty and useless it's gonna be? well maybe you'll enjoy reading other people's stories of success and of creating something but i personally never gave soykaf about anything of the sort

>Do you guys think that building things has therapeutic value? Yeah. I think This is why some folks draw stuff when stressed and call it "vent art" when they need something to calm the nerves. It probably isn't they kind of "Build" you thought when writing this but building physical things and drawing things achieve the same result by the same means on different medium. However, I am more interested in what kind of building activity achieves the most therapeutic benefits. I'm sure it is different for everyone. Nonetheless, I imagine something like woodwork, an activity requiring both physical and mental effort, is more effective than something almost purely mental like abstract activities such as drawing or coding. Although coding out of spite is probably the funniest thing I did to relax and release stress.

Art therapy and music therapy both are officially study backed therapy methods so I dont see why this couldn't also apply to any creative endeavor that involves mind to body connection.

>>11782 Can't say much. Pragmatic.

>>11783 >However, I am more interested in what kind of building activity achieves the most therapeutic benefits Probably something physical that requires some degree of thinking and also involves other people with similar tastes and ideas as you. I wonder if stonemasons were the happiest people of their time.

well ur talking about mental therapy I guess imho a big part is just keeping busy, tired and distracted. Work is the real opium of the masses and the busyer and more worn out you are the less time you have for crippling depression

>>11781 i was thinking about this today when i was going back over and adjusting some music that i recorded. i had this random realisation as i was listening to it that "hey, i came up with this guitar riff, and i wrote the lyrics, and i programmed the drums. this is me, im listening to myself" and i dont know it kind of imbued me with this feeling of accomplishment

>>11781 Personal growth tends to make you happier in a litany of ways

>>11836 unfortunately you mostly stop growing around 18-20, though muscle mass tends to somehow build up after you hit 30 maybe that's why people in 20s are so depressed. can't get soykaf if you're not big

>>11837 >can't get soykaf if you're not big Then get big. That's a more literal sort of personal growth