Self hosted email; Is it worth it?

Recently I've been unable to access my Hotmail email account, and I thought because I have access to several VPS', and a few physical machines I would be in a position to set up my own email server. After a brief search on Das Tube, most people are saying it's not worth doing and instead leave to the heavylifting to already established email providers. Clearly this is shilling for the Unified Network. Has anyone run into any issues with sending and receiving mail from an 'unofficial' source? I imagine if you're sending a lot of emails, you'd need to have your domain whitelisted, receiving wouldn't be much of a requirement.

recieving is easy provided people send soykaf, though maybe you also get swamped with spam. not my experience though but idk, depends where you give your address out. sending can be a pain, lot of emails that get lost as spam.

Everyone you email will not be hosting their own. In fact they will even be most likely using gmail. So it seems not worth the effort to me

>>10032 >Has anyone run into any issues with sending Plenty of them, even in a mail server that was only me. Big tech will censor anyone, even mid size companies sometimes have a hard time fixing their domains because some big tech just blocked them for no reason. From non-big-tech, it work just fine. >>10032 >an 'unofficial' source This thing doesn't exist, this 'official' concept was created by big tech. Is like saying a train is the official way of transportation. >>10032 > Clearly this is shiling for the Unified Network. Yes, but be aware that running it on your own requires effort, email is second to ssh in the thing that people try to hack most. Be sure to run a nice firewall and ids/ips. Lock everything up and keep it secure and updated. >>10032 >most people are saying it's not worth doing and instead leave to the heavylifting to already established email providers. Worth for learning, worth if you worry about your privacy, worth if your emails are highly confidential and worth if you are willing to pay the price for it. Mine costs 6 hours of maintenance/year + domain + hardware (btw, I share it with a lot of other things running). Is cheaper to pay $18 to have a premium gmail with 5tb on gdrive than what I'm doing.

Has anyone tried out dmail.ai yet? I'm currently running my own mail server but would switch in a heartbeat if the soykaf just werks, e2e encryption and all.

>>10083 >https://dmail.ai/static/js/ethereumjs.fb4445f9.chunk.js I'm sure it's great.

>>10032 Lets say you have a self hosted email and your server loses connection. Someone sends you an email. What happens? Is it lost to the void? Does it depend on the behaviour of the senders client?

>>10032 >Lets say you have a self hosted email and your server loses connection. Someone sends you an email. What happens? As I understand it, their SMTP server will keep the message around in the queue until it can establish a connection with your SMTP server. So except in edge cases where the message is sent but your server goes down before it can be committed to disk, the message will go through.

>>10827 Thanks. Reliability has always been one of the big things stopping me from doing it. Another thing is getting caught in spam filters.

>>10085 what is the link you posted?

>>10897 I`m not the author of the message. This link leads to an Ethereum crypto miner used by dmail.ai

I started self-hosting my own email server with just my residential dynamic IP Spectrum line. It works, but sending to email providers such as Outlook, Yahoo, and iCloud completely block you from entering even the spam folder. This is because these email providers are using Spamhaus Policy Block List, and Spectrum isn't allowing anyone to remove their IP address from the list. Gmail lets me through but puts me in spam. Proton lets me into the inbox. So I think any non-major email provider works. In conclusion, if you're using a residential line then check if you're blocked on Spamhaus or other email blocklists. If you're using a business line or VPS then you're probably not blocked and you're good to go. Don't listen to other anons saying not to have your own email. Even if you're blocked on a list it's still worth it to have it. Just don't delete your Cock.li/Proton/Gmail account because it's good to have as a backup.

>>10032 I hosted my own for years, and really enjoyed it, but in the end it was more trouble than it was really worth. It always seemed that, just when I needed it most something would go wrong and I'd have to debug the server at work over termux on my phone. Meanwhile my new insurance needs additional documents and my old insurance is trying to send them to my dysfunctional email (it turned out that my domain hadn't been ported over to my registrar correctly and so it wouldn't resolve on more secure systems, which took a few days to figure out since I was still getting most of my mail). And that's after you do all the work to set up your security settings and get removed from all the blacklists and email any other providers that might still be silently dropping your mail, only to still get sent to spam and not be able to actually get ahold of anyone. All this to say, it's very fun if you're into that sort of thing, and I learned a lot, but I can't really trust it enough to use it for anything other than personal communication, which hardly ever happens through email these days.

The main thing is to find an ip address for your mail server that isn't on any of the blacklists that are used extensively to reject emails. So make sure the vps provider assigns you a clean ip address. Then you can get into the whole pain-in-the-ass of setting up a working, secure email server on it. Make sure to prevent it from being exploited to send spam, or your nice, clean ip address will get added to the blacklists.