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cyber helmet
The Plague · 2017-09-17 17:32
Hello. I want to build a functional cyberpunk helmet. What functions should it have?
Zero Cool · 2017-09-17 17:57
>ballistic or other protection for motorcycling or if you are in a combat zone mabey?
>hud visor or hud goggles (there used to be a few options that did not rely on smartphones, but it looks like smartphone integration is the new norm)
hud could have maps, elevation, temp direction, there are some smart glasses that use independent GPS chips and are basically AR maps, you can preorder/betatest some of them and get finished product , i don't know if you want to make all of these yourself or just put together something from existing tech...
for inspo look at fighter pilot helmets, fully system specific HUD and AR systems that are used to do what they need for missions, also they have links to sensorsto provide a "glass cockpit" setting which allows them to virtually see through the aircraft
you could even put infrred sensors or cameras all over it to provide a 360 view with night vision with the added plus of having IR lights that block view by security cameras
what are you going to use this for?
Chan Siu Ming · 2017-09-17 18:10
>>620
>what are you going to use this for?
To look cool, mostly. But some protection and a HUD screen is also good.
Yuki Nagato · 2017-09-17 20:31
>>621
aviator helmets are a good form/function, usually they are in about the 100-200 range, it depends on what you want to protect against
i guess the next question would be what is your price range? you can put something together for as little as 100$ probably or go all out and drop 1 or 2 k on a helmet
pic related might be doable for less than a few hundred using off the shelf items, the base model of this helmet is $300 but you can find knock off versions listed as "bump helmets" if you dont mind buying from megacorps, amazon sells some with flip down visors for 30-50$ or you can find them on aliexpress or alibaba you can ge the base helmet, pair it with a nice set of slim line head phones/ hearing protection with an aux cord or Bluetooth ,install a hud and use a 3M respirator for added dust protection all the way to organic vapors and paint fumes, or you can go with a half face continuous air flow SCBA (MSA sells these)
https://www.wired.com/2012/04/6-glasses-with-integrated-displays-that-you-can-buy-today/
SOME HUD SOLUTIONS
Lunch · 2017-09-17 20:44
>>621
>To look cool, mostly
Maybe don't do the helmet afterall.
You'll look dopey as fuarrrk.
Tequila · 2017-09-17 20:55
>>623
here is something i have been thinking of doing for a while
Lady 3Jane.. · 2017-09-17 21:39
https://hackaday.io/project/12211-arduino-glasses-a-hmd-for-multimeter
Boris Grishenko · 2017-09-17 21:53
>>626
hmmm this bring up a really good point, I work with manuals a lot, and it takes me a while to get to pdfs on a computer then go back to my work bench, it would not be effective to have a computer at my workbench, but a HUD that allowed me to view PDFs would be great, what would be some DIY solutions? i have seen some small screen HUDs, could i possibly link a smart phone with them preloaded onto an eyepiece?
Undisclosed · 2017-09-18 06:52
some zooming mechanism
The Phantom Phreak · 2017-09-18 08:37
Rear vision camera seems like an obvious choice. GPS and map.
I'd want a zoom function, night vision, either light intensifier, infra-red or thermographic.
You could make parts on a 3-d printer if it gets fiddly.
Maybe you could build in some of the phone apps, like a barcode reader or the gadget that finds hidden cameras.
Miho Iwakura · 2017-09-18 09:18
>>627
I don't think that you will be able to find a suitable display.
Agent Richard Gill · 2017-09-18 15:07
>>627
if you look around for head mounted displays you can find some things that might work, but most of these are incredibly low resolution. if you want something that could reasonably render a pdf without scrolling back and forth to read each line, you need to be willing to fork over a fair chunk of cash, in most cases.
Nobody special · 2017-09-18 18:21
>>627
something like a vr headset could work
cameras on the outside of the helmet could provide video of real world
then a computer could display that + overlays
imagine being able to pull up the blueprints of a building, then walk through the building seeing where all the wiring is highlighted on the walls
Hitomi · 2017-09-18 18:29
To see through clothes.
Jean Dupont · 2017-09-18 19:27
>>634
thats gonna take a loooooot of work to make happen. and probably not easy to make a general solution to convert blueprints to some sort of 3D model overlay.
more likely could setup some sort of GPS derived minimap, perhaps with blueprints for specific buildings avaliable.
life is a video game.
Joe Bloggs · 2017-09-18 22:34
>>619
Splicer · 2017-09-19 05:21
Just get a FAST helmet
Neo · 2017-10-18 04:47
pop up air vents
fiber optic rear view mirror
Morpheus · 2017-10-23 04:37
Twitch streaming.
Dujour · 2017-10-27 12:06
If you intend to use it as a "glass cockpit" for a motorcycle, I'd say an HUD with the bike's dash displayed. GPS, navcom, and a hands-free phone. Gopro helmetcam. Rear vision would be handy. Dust filter for traffic fumes.
Unnamed · 2018-04-08 16:21
3D mapping is a good idea. There's a laser scanner called ZEB-REVO, what do you think about it? I'm searching for a open source project, but nothing yet.
Masami Eiri · 2018-04-23 18:15
>>619
Build in a police scanner. You're going to need it, because you'll get the cops called on you as soon as you walk around with this thing on. Honestly though it's a cool idea but not very inconspicuous. What use cases do you hope to cover with this? The use cases should help define the features.
Example: If you were going to wear this while riding a motorcycle, it would be a cyberpunk motorcycle helmet and would have different features than if you made a cyberpunk spelunking helmet.
Nemissa · 2018-04-24 20:50
>>708
This, something along the line of a projection display helmet would be both practical and inconspicuous.
Does not even have to be a full view area, a small one with the right focus off the sides will do for most cases I believe.
Tough infrared vision and radar information would be sweet as a complete overlay.
>>1281
Just pull up the visor, add good looking shades and don't act like a psycho, problem solved.
Frank Garza · 2019-04-29 03:16
>>619
I was thinking of doing something like this and combining it with some means of hiding the voice in order to not only make pinning down my identity difficult but also hide (with the assistance of other clothing) features like gender, race, etc., in order to become a more complete "blank slate," socially speaking. Obviously, the associations that you lose are replaced with those gained by being an obvious weirdo, but I suppose everything has a cost. Anyway, what would be the best way to cover the voice in real time or close enough to real time to be functional? Could you modulate it through the helmet, or would you have to use text-to-speech and a speaker or some similar arrangement? Keep in mind that if the original voice can be heard at all, the game is over.
Also, I'd like to point out for a more general contribution to the thread that, aesthetically speaking, you could play games with viewers' perceptions of your eyes through careful placement of LEDs (see second gif for one possible effect).
Neo · 2019-05-14 00:23
>>2940
>gender
Would there be any way to prevent yourself from giving that away whenever you coughed for the first time? Nothing comes to mind.
Shogun · 2019-05-17 22:09
Now that I think about it, on a basic level, it should be able to do what helmets were originally intended to do, which is protect your head. On top of its more sophisticated electronic functions, it should be able to prevent the ground, a rock, or a bullet from breaching your skull. Call it "physical security" if this doesn't sound cyber enough.
By the way, if anyone has any excellent ideas about how to bypass anti-mask laws, please post them.
Jim Hilger · 2019-05-19 18:44
This thread is making me want an inner visor gps but I can imagine it being a pain in the ass. I run deliveries and mostly know where Im going but sometimes not.
I need something the size of a stamp that sticks to the inner visor like a bit of clear tape yet somehow has connectivity to the arm terminal and gps.
Jet Black · 2019-05-19 22:08
>>3015
I found some soundproofing masks, but they don't seem to actually work.
>>3059
>bullet
Somewhat surprisingly, it seems that ballistic head protection is still far from perfect. Most designs don't bother with protecting the face, and I haven't found a single helmet that is rated for rifle rounds. In spite of its goofy appearance, pic related is potentially one of the safest helmets on the market, if it does what it claims to.
>>3069
>size of a stamp
What would this display? It seems too small for most applications, including a map.
Incognito · 2019-05-21 22:09
>>3070
>those lenses
is that quickly replaceable bullet-proof ? Incase you get shot replace instantly with new lenses? Looks like that kind of design. Kinda hilarious to consider in practice.
Turner · 2019-05-21 22:11
>>3069
I think a mini-projector onto the helmet visor would be more practical. There are practical dyi implementations using glass to create a dbz like scouter. Seems to work fine
Zero Cool · 2019-05-21 23:01
>>3079
https://hiconsumption.com/2016/09/devtac-ronin-tactical-ballistic-helmet/
Here's an article about it with a video and a link to the manufacturer. Go wild.
>>3080
>There are practical dyi implementations using glass to create a dbz like scouter. Seems to work fine
I desire links. Do you have them?
Case · 2019-05-21 23:19
>>3082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pkB1Nahi-X0
this one showcases it very well
Y.T · 2019-05-22 02:07
>>3079
Actually, the weirdest thing is that the back is comparatively poorly armored, even though back-of-the-head protection is seamless on regular ballistic helmets. I'm really not sure that I understand what the designers were going for at all, unless they were just trying to make it look neat.
Bobby Newmark · 2019-05-22 03:41
>>619
The material should be a military-grade polycarbonate (maybe with a metal alloy too). This provides a light-weight but resilient structure.
Regarding specs i suggest a built-in gas mask, digital-visual display (visors can be a big hazard) (make sure these are flash, lazer, and trauma proof, or you WILL be blinded), have some protection that drops down to the neck, and make sure that the inside of the helmet is an isolated environment from the outside of it. That should be all (theoretically you would want a superior FoV to be more aware of surroundings).
Make sure to impact test it (hit it with a bat, with an axe, throw rocks at it (hard), punch it, etc.
>>620
I disagree with the idea of using air-mics and speakers. I suggest using a throat-mic like a pic related.
Be aware that a helmet on its own is an incomplete martial suit. At a minimum, you need a cushioned vest, a polycarbonate shield, and a gun/dagger/both.
t. Have a friend who does a lot of anti-riot defense (especially when Democrats threw a soykaf-fit 2016-2018).
Jim Hilger · 2019-05-22 03:42
>>3095
forgot pic related
Roy Batty · 2019-09-15 06:16
Ok you guys know that scene in The Dark Knight where batman can see the building from the ultrasonic waves / microwaves emitted by all the cellphones? How about having dozens of little battery-powered modules, each with a camera, IR camera, ultrasonic transducer, microwave antenna, etc. that scans the surroundings and feeds that back to your visor where it's processed and turned into data so you can see around walls and stuff? Even just an array of thermal IR cameras on the helmet itself to let you see enemy heat sources would be pretty handy. Combine the data from multiple cameras into a minimap of sorts to make managing targets much easier. Knowledge is the key to a battle.
What I'd really want to see it doing would be barrel tracking: the ability to display where enemy gun barrels are pointing at and project a line from them with low enough latency that you can dodge the bullets before they're fired, or else block them with a small titanium shield on one arm.
I've been looking into designing an AR helmet of sorts, likely resembling a large visor made of two curved semi-reflective mirrors for maximum field of view, and displays above or below the side of the helmet. Probably OLEDs, but a high pixel-density LCD would work fine I suppose.
Agent Jones · 2019-09-15 13:30
Skully are making helmets again. They have rear vision cameras and HUDs.
Six · 2019-09-17 12:45
>>631
>>3555
Sorry for having soykaf imagination, but where would the rear facing camera be attached?
Hitomi · 2019-09-20 05:51
>>3560
on the back?
Bob Arctor · 2019-09-20 22:49
>>3560
Separately on back of the bike I think. There are multiple companies that have attempted HUD helmets.
Tequila · 2019-09-21 03:08
Give it some LIDAR to sense all around you. I've kinda wanted to rig one up on my motorbike helmet, hook it up to a HUD of some sort.
Neato robotics makes a cheap lidar unit for a robot vacuum cleaner that you can find for a song on ebay from time to time. Thought it would be fun to turn it into a 3d scanner or some kind of sensor.
John Doe · 2019-09-21 03:10
>>3570
Forgot a link:
http://www.tobias-weis.de/neato-xv-laser-scanner-lidar/
Hong, Guil Dong · 2019-09-21 09:01
>>3551
Could just do this instead. Wifi signals can be used to get info on people's locations.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGZzNZnYIHo
Lain Iwakura · 2019-09-22 15:03
>>3570
iirc DARPA in conjunction with NSWC crane and NASA developed a lidar based heads up display for divers and astronauts that places a minimap into a helmet so you can see even with zero visibility (like when doing underwater or space construction/repairs). If you had th know-how, you could render a lidar based digital world, or put a minimap into a VR headset and never even need to look at the real world.
Nameless · 2019-09-24 09:00
>>3573
Wouldn't be able to see flat written lettering and pictures.
Unidentified · 2019-09-25 04:31
>>3573
Whoa, that's much better. I was just imagining a simple circular graph overlaid on a HUD, where the distance of the circle from the center represented something's proximity to your head in that direction. So like weird inward bulge at six o'clock, something is sneaking up behind you. I like yours. Mine might be neat for monitoring your blind spots on an actual motorbike, which is what I first conceived of it for.
>>3578
True, but you could have it as an overlay on actual light coming in or other optical sensors. Or you might even be able to test the laser not only for time-of-flight but also albedo on return to map how light or dark the object it hits might be.
Hagbard Celine · 2019-09-25 04:50
>>3573
>>3579
Also, I think it's pretty freaking cool that the higher-end lidar measures distance not via timing but via some kind of interferometry iirc. It splits the laser into two beams, keeps one as a reference by directing it to a sensor that measures optical wavelength, and sends out the other half to actually fly to the target and return.
That way you can just combine that slight frequency shift instead of hoping your electronics are fast enough to keep up with fuarrrking light at a centimeter resolution, which is a fool's errand. Any floating point inaccuracy or clock variance would totally ruin the SNR and make the data useless. Even a GPS's nuclear clock wouldn't be good enough for such small distances. However, use the actual light as a clock relative to itself and obviously it'll be accurate. At the wavelength of visible light (i.e. high as fuarrrk) that's going to get you some amazing precision.
Don't think the Neato Robotics lidar is anywhere near that sophisticated lol. Those cost big bux. It might use some kind of parallax measurement, not sure.
Mario Rossi · 2019-09-25 10:23
>>3551
The problem with heat cameras are their size. The bigger temperature difference you want it to detect, the better you need to insulate it, thus making it bigger. Having one on a helmet isn't that much of a problem. But having a dozen of them in an array will require a big rack mount on your head. Also soykaf refresh rate
John Titor · 2019-09-25 17:44
>>3581
Not really. Maybe for some old-ass heat cameras.
https://www.sparkfun.com/products/14844
-40° to 300° C. Figure that covers any range you'd want unless you're working on a jet engine or something. Simple i2c data. Could stack quite a few on a helmet. Comes in 55° and 110° FOV models. Not huge resolution, but plenty enough to spot a hot spot and overlay that data on top of an optical feed.
Nemissa · 2019-09-26 14:58
>>3582
Yeah, but it's like 32x24, not enough for an overlay display unless you don't mind the headache or if you go full 1987 predator mode. Still interesting and pretty cheap, it could be used for some kind of automatic heat tracking.
Another problem with better IR cams is that usually they are sold only to companies, so getting your hand on one being solo is kinda hard (On somewhat same subject, I did try to contact a micro display supplier (2k*2k pixels on 1.8 inch full color) once, and as soon as the fuarrrking salesman learned that I'm not a company he stopped answering my mails).
Btw I also want to build my own cyber helmet but it would be geared toward extreme environments on earth and not a city. Like being confortable inside when outside it's -100 or +60 C (from the coldest place of Antarctica to the Hottest deserts) and completely pressurised (with some kind of very light astronaut suit). So that I could roam the earth autonomously if doomsday were to come or just live like an hermit in some place where there is no one. I'm currently looking for appearance wise, at designs akin to pics related.
The helmet would be made of various layers each having a specific role, one for bump protection (like motorcycle helmets), one for pressurisation, one thermal protection, one for corrosion protection, one for electronics, interior thermal regulation, user confort (pads and ventilation) and one central layer being the support for the rest. For the sizing and specification of each layer I'm getting a lot of inspiration from the MIL-STD-810g.
Neo · 2019-10-02 15:21
>>3584
Owning a company is doable. Could start a llc and deal through it for less than 50 bucks in a day if that's really the only hurdle and you're in eu. (dont know about other places)
Koichiro · 2019-10-03 10:50
>>3565
That means if you're slightly at an angle you loose all meaningful vision and start looking at the sky.
Sabo Engle · 2019-10-03 20:16
>>3584
Start with a model of what you want, you can form it a number of ways (plaster, cay, etc). then overlay it with the hardware as a proof of concept. Once you actually start to get into the design aspects for comfort, take inspiration from motorcycle helmets, vacuum forming can give you a good shape, you can use strong acrylic mixed with other compounds to make a clear ballistic shield, using special coatings, tapes, or films can provide you with environmental protection like certain optical density for certain radiation (IR/VIS/UV). Glass doping if you can git gud at chemistry, kydex can be used to make attachment points, unless you want to hard mount things into the helmet from the beginning cutting out holes in the prototype and filling them with size/weight accurate components before fully integrating them can enable you to see how well the helmet will actually be worn (3d print or use metal/wood to simulate sensor packages).
Fibers and meshes can also be layered with acrylic paste/dips to put ballistic or structural protection.
Look at gasket systems for dive gear or firefighting equipment for inspiration on atmospheric protection.
After R&D I think the entire project can be done with a production cost of less than $10k.
For helmet shapes, look at tanker helmets, they already are shells that are designed to accept a variety of communications equipment. All you need to do is take that design, and put face and neck protection into the helmet and seal it up. Test each component fully before integrating it into the end product, you don't want to put the whole thing together just to find out that it will not work as designed.
Batou · 2019-10-06 02:24
Gotta make sure you're stylin' OP. Here's some styles to inspire ya
The Plague · 2019-10-06 02:25
>>3645
You gonna be stylin' heavy. Ya here me?
Koos van der Merwe · 2019-10-06 03:48
>>3645
>>3646
I think you're joking, but animal shapes could be cool in a Hotline Miami/Celty Sterluson kind of way.
Agent Jones · 2019-10-08 21:32
>>3648
I was only half-joking. If you could pull such a thing off that isn't sexual like the images I linked then go right ahead. However, such things are probably highly noticeable. In my area, I have never seen a man walking around with a fully enclosed helmet unless he is on a motor bike, and if his helmet was shaped like a horse-head or a dog-head or a jackal then I think that would draw even more attention to himself. Perhaps if it becomes a trend...
Roger Pollack · 2019-10-14 11:06
>>3630
Thanks for the recommandations mate. But for the model I'll actually use a 3d printer to check if my CAD can be assembled (i'll be using CATIA). For protection I'm also thinking usings materials similar in space suits. They're not too hard to get a hold of and provide good enought environemental protection.
Roy Batty · 2020-07-17 18:44
op, you must realize how difficult breathing through a gas mask is
Neuromancer · 2020-07-17 19:06
>>3653
Why would it not be sexual? Cyberpunk in my mind includes pornstar talent shows and hooker-therapists who offer a pillow talk bundle.
Unknown · 2020-07-19 04:09
>>3645
Thanks for the laugh my Lainon. The doggo one made me almost piss my pants.
Rotan · 2021-03-29 08:24
I'd like to revive this discussion with my obvious inspiration from fiction: the UNSC Spartan's Mjolnir.
I believe any good cyber helmet needs to provide protection on many fronts. In this case, even without the hermetically sealed suit; EMR shielding, ballistic protection, and it's well known enough that it wouldn't be too weird in public these days.
Multiple points in this thread are commonplace in Halo, such as HUD and bulletproofing, and the cosplayers of Spartans are already laying groundwork for the functional builds of mock helmets.
I'll open the idea with a question. Do lainons think it's easier to work with existing helmets and retrofit those, or is it more feasible to build from scratch an item with your desired specs? Granted, I bet its hard to get Titanium-A battle plate and reforge it by hand, but neither is it so accurate to just shove your mobile into a DOT helmet and call it cyberized. Where is the line, and is cool factor as important as armor?
Fred Nurk · 2021-03-29 11:05
>>4766
Helmets that cover the eyes are sexual. Prove me wrong Protip: you can't!
Agent Richard Gill · 2021-03-29 11:10
Drug dispenser.
This is a retro one, what would a cyberpunk one be like? An IV pump?
Chan Siu Ming · 2021-04-01 06:42
>>3653
Maybe that's a way to do it, make it look like a motorcycle helment and that way you can still blend in with society and not draw extra attention.
Cat Mother · 2021-04-05 14:20
>>621
So your just working on a Crysis helmet?
Tank · 2021-04-06 12:45
>>619 Why not use a motorcycle helmet, bit more functional than these larpy cosplay helmets that everyone is posting. Bell has some pretty cool stuff as long as you have the money to pay for it.
Cypher · 2021-04-10 15:14
>>6539
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VivuMRzQyw0 - Grendel - Dream
pp poo poo · 2021-04-13 11:06
A few features that would seem key would be sound amplification/protection, hud, comms, laser protection (modular cameras for eyes), at least NIJ 3A rating for decent ballistic protection (you can make due with basic blunt force but this is the future man) , and basic CBRN protection. If you want protection from rifle cartridges then you'd need some sort of neck support for wearing over 30 minutes.
pp poo poo · 2021-04-13 11:19
>>6538
Budget? If you want some ballistic protection then get the high end gear and retrofit it from there. If you have the money then developing your own helmet would be viable for a true cyberpunk helmet (upwards of easily 10,000 or more for R&D). If you just want something more for looks and doesn't cost upwards of 1000 then retrofitting motorcycle helmets is fine. Furthermore, what look are you going for? If it's halo then you'd probably have to make the design by yourself while incorporating what you can. Looks are always a factor as you don't want all your hard work to look like universal camo.
I'm not sure about difficulty but the hardest part is likely the hud and other electronic parts working together.
pp poo poo · 2021-04-13 11:42
>>3645
>middle
pale horse, pale rider
Dox · 2021-06-30 17:25
>>619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpJdwryFj6k
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ND2WtEZatY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tx6xlDYPoWY
Here's a few videos on 3d printing molds for carbon fiber parts just for inspiration.
Drifter · 2021-06-30 19:08
>>6597
You can remove the noise canceling/amplification from a cheap shooting headset. If you are doing a DIY solution, use gel pads, they are the comfiest of over the ear pads.
You could build a helmet out of foam and then copy it with sturdy materials, use CAD or or injection mold it. You could also use vacuum forming to get a rough shape that you could layer with epoxy and kevlar.
Apoc · 2021-07-02 17:24
>>4765
what about a scuba tank?
Tomohisa "Tom" Kanezaki · 2021-07-02 20:31
>>619
Don't forget proper ventilation so that the concentration of CO2 is not too high inside the helmet. Apparently the concentration of CO2 inside biker helmets is stupid high.
Pulse · 2021-07-06 22:38
Honestly OP, one thing you really strongly need to consider is the fact that any helmet tougher/heavier than a bicycle helmet fuarrrking is like kicking dead whales down the beach to wear while moving around at anything faster than a sedate walk for any extended length of time
Combat helmets suck, Riot helmets suck, Mountaineering helmets suck less but still aren't good, Motorcycle helmets extra super duper suck.
The more weight you have on your head the more it fuarrrks with your head movement, your vision (small head movements are a natural part of your vision and hearing) and your general ability to move around properly and easily, anything that covers your mouth and nose restricts your breathing and is like kicking dead whales down the beach, it fuarrrks with your vision as well if it isn't perfectly clear polycarbonate, it muffles your speech and messes with your hearing. Respirators especially are miserable to wear for any length of time, make even the simplest tasks difficult, are claustrophobic and impossible to be comfortable in, make you sweat and severely limit your ability to move long distances (really hard to do aerobic activities in them, after the initial anaerobic sprint running is torturous)
Having anything over your ears obviously destroys your hearing, but its also really uncomfortable during dynamic movement, hard to take off in a hurry, and traps moisture like a bitch
Any kind of electronics heavier and/or bulkier than an LED headlamp stuck to your head fuarrrk with your balance, tend to get caught/get bumped on things like trees/doorframes/your friends etc. and have a nasty habit of breaking. Night vision is actually a bitch to work with, the common kinds mess massively with your depth perception, they're heavy, delicate, easily fried by intense light, and don't work as well irl as they do in films, still worth having but much more situational than the I win button they are in films and games, head mounted thermals and similar super high tech things are far away in the future
Honestly a beefed up cycling helmet strong enough to withstand a baseball bat with some kind of basic eye protection like toughened ballistic glasses (their are helmets with ballistic plastic visors that are made for commuters) and a pair of in ear earbuds with a transparency mode that can be switched off to be used as hearing protection are the most practical headware I can imagine if you're talking about a "cyberpunk" helmet setup
>>3070
The reason they don't bother to cover the face is extremely simple, any level of armour that actually provides facial protection worth anything is extremely cumbersome for anything more than really short engagements, its been tried and tried again, from the first world war to the wars in Afghanistan, giving infantry facial armour is actually bad for them, it limits their vision, makes communicating harder, makes dealing with civilians harder, makes it harder to aim their weapons and manipulate the environment around them, and just generally degrades performance, facial protection is extremely niche, and even modern face shields only protect against pistol bullets, which is why they tend to show up in Counter Terrorist and swat roles more than anywhere else
Even knights in the high middle ages, when face defence was really practical and actually proof against the infantry weapons of the day, frequently choose not to have it or to raise it once in melee, its that much of a pain to deal with and puts you at that serious of a disadvantage compared to a foe that can see and breath properly
Yamaoto Toshi · 2021-07-06 23:07
>>1295
>>2940
You can make a pretty cheap augmented reality screen with a raspberry pi.
https://maker.pro/raspberry-pi/projects/diy-head-mounted-display-tutorial/
Haruyoshi · 2021-07-08 05:17
>>6967
thanks for the effortpost anon, even if it's negative your points are good. what do you think about stenomasks like picrel? I bought one and it's pretty disappointing, mainly because of moisture problems which you've alluded to. Even after using it for just 10 minutes, it's dripping with water. after half an hour it totally clogs and becomes unusable.
any ideas for how to overcome that issue with a DIY design? also, it doesn't isolate my voice very well and people around me reported they could still hear what I was saying when I used it. Any idea how to cancel sound internally while also preventing moisture build-up? Thanks anon!
Otto Normalverbraucher · 2021-07-08 07:14
An air filter can work as long as the filter isn't mounted directly onto the face. The helmet would be heavy enough with electronics and impact protection so offloading the filter to your backpack or belt would be ideal. Plus with the filter off of your face you can have larger filters and a powered air system to pump the air for very easy breathing.
R4bb1t · 2021-07-08 09:36
>>6983
Hack some ventilation tubing to it, and build a ventilation unit that is like kicking dead whales down the beach off moisture and pumps in fresh air (I'm kinda thinking of the ventilation unit on the enclaves power armor from fallout here...). As to noise isolation, you can't really do much besides adding more and better noise cancelling material to the mask. I personally never dabbled in those things, but my best guess is, that some kinda tight strap or insulating scarf that goes around the lower part of your face would help mitigating the problem. But that would require additional ventilation, maybe even a high volume air pump.
R4bb1t · 2021-07-08 09:38
Oh well, looks like I found another Filterword. The language enhancer here is really annoying, especially when it distorts the message. I meant to say "it svcks the moisture out"
Unknown · 2021-07-08 23:30
>>6983
I think they're a gimmicky solution in search of a problem to solve
The issue with moisture build up is an inherent, truly almost insolvable issue with having anything close to something hot and damp like that the mouth, unless you get active filtration involved, which adds a layer of complexity and electricity consumption that simply isn't worth countenancing.
There are silica gels and creams you can get intended for the insides of respirators that aid in moisture absorption but they're expensive and quickly exhausted, they were invented in WW1 to solve the issue of men in respirators not being able to see more than 3 feet in front of them, the expense being justified when hans is coming at you with a spade out of a cloud of phosgene, probably less justified when making a phone call that's mostly about pizza, a bit about drugs that may or not be monitored and almost certainly isn't cared about.
I would go back to basics and ask what is the actual issue your solution is being designed to address?
If its a combination of lip reading software and microphones being able to deduce what you're saying into your comms device, a throat mic hidden under your jacket and a large collar/a tube scarf/face mask that can be donned and dropped as required would address it, if its people in meat space, texting or a throat mic and obscuring your face are also the answer. A storm hood or even a regular hoody for example, will cover most of your face, hides your mouth from lateral observation and is almost unremarkable in modern society for example.
A helmet that's socially acceptable to wear, like a bike helmet that's more of the riot helmet/combat helmet shape with some kind of eye protection and a soft face cover that's socially acceptable really does strike me as the most "optimal" option, completely covered up like that however might draw attention, but less attention than wearing one of those ridiculous devices in public, its up to you if you actually really truly want to wear a helmet in daily life and its up to you to gauge your area and decide if the extra scrutiny it incurs in your area is worth the benefits.
Joey · 2021-07-09 03:36
>>6990
>>OP lain
just take inspiration from a hazmat helmet and spetsnaz helmet.
K.I.S.S.
pp poo poo · 2021-10-25 06:12
>>6920
Yeah the gucci shooting headphones would be a starting place for basic combat audio. Once I get some extra cash I may start making a cyber helmet. I think something crucial for the HUD is a movement detection system so you know what's moving around you.