BIOHACKING/GRINDING GENERAL

Hello, Lains! In this thread we will discuss the art of biohacking. From neodymium implants up to anything else you can imagine, build, and shove inside of you, all is welcome here. Nerves are fundamentally electric things, and electric devices can set off nerves in order to extend your range of sensory perception. Thus, the human body is your oyster. .webm definitely related, give it a watch. It explains a lot of the basics of and philosophy behind biohacking/grinding.

i think biohacking is weird, scary, horrible soykaf that we're not ready for as a species but since i know its going to happen anyway, we may as well have indy/open source people doing in the public domain instead of just creepy companies. so godspeed anon. let me know when i can grow a second penis though, i'm down for that.

I think biohacking is a really cool idea, but I have yet to see anybody do anything really useful with it.

>>67 >not ready for as a species I agree. In the future though, it's the only way we'll ever colonize other planets. Even if we can produce food, air and water on Mars for instance, that 1/3 G will do a real number on the human body when people try to live out their lives and have babies there.

Not gonna lie, it scares the living soykaf outta me. I'll take anything that goes over my skin, but under it? No thanks.

kay, so i heard lots of stuff, now link me to some facts. [spoiler[it won't be like that CRISPR/cas9 thread will it[/spoiler] did some research

>>73 >I have a lot of things in me coated in hot-gun glue That's quite the sentence, out of context. I wonder what effects that might have if she ever touches something hot (or, god forbid, needs a MRI).

>>74 welp, she's kill then. I hope she has these kind of stuff in her limbs, it'll be easier to get rid off

What kind of biohacking do I need to do to make cute girls like me?

>>73 http://biohack.me/ http://www.grindhousewetware.com/ The Bottlenose is my favorite aug they've created. >The Bottlenose interacts with an implanted magnet by taking in a large range of data such as sonar, UV, Wi-Fi, or thermal information and translates it to a magnetic field via induction. >Grindhouse Wetware also provides a haptic version of the Bottlenose, which does not require a magnet implant. The haptic model vibrates with varying intensity in the presence of sensory information. Any sensor can be substituted or added to the provided kit. Here's a TED Talk concerning the subject: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DxVWhFLI6E Assuming you've seen the .webm I've attached. here's the full version (split into three parts): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a-Dv6dDtdcs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7RV_6Axb80g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5n2aJeAGyM >>74 >>75 >I wonder what effects that might have if she ever touches something hot (or, god forbid, needs a MRI). For an MRI, I'd imagine it'd be the same scenario as a war veteran who still has a piece of shrapnel embedded within their body. Just let the doctors know and they'll adjust accordingly. Only very specific types of metals end up being actually dangerous to undergo an MRI with. I think I read somewhere that said veterans are given some kind of covering over the affected area before proceeding, but a quick Google-fu session turns up no results supporting this.

>>76 A CASIE mod loaded with the appropriate pheromones? Lol.

>>76 Ten meters of steel penis.

>>68 Indeed. This. Please someone show something really worth it. I like more the idea of negative eugenics (removing human vestigiality and bad mutations) with CRISPR than putting useless magnetics on hand to be a part of the biopunk movement that snowflakes like Meredith Patterson spread. If there's any useful thing as of today, please tell me, I'll be grateful.

>>88 northpaw sorta is. It's a thingie for people who don't have good sense of direction. You put it around your ankle and it vibrates to show you where the north is

>>89 Interesting. Getting into astronomy actually helped my sense of direction. The sun is just a star like any other, and you can use it to sense direction if you know the approximate time of day and time of year.

>>89 why not just get a compass

>>93 If you drop a compass, it might break. You can't drop it if it's surgically attached.

>>93 >>88 >>68 Right now, Biohacking is more about proof-of-concept and experimenting with uncharted territory than optimizing things for mainstream usability. In time, the technology involved will advance and shrink to the point that it's feasible for regular joes to go out and get one implanted at, say, a tattoo parlor or hackerspace. This attitude of "oh well you can do the same thing with X" is just lazy and breeds stagnation. As I said earlier, at this point in time it's more about experimentation rather than implementation. No need for such negativity.

>>95 I was >>94 and >>68 I'm not asking for examples of mainstream interest or, "Just werks." I was just saying I'd like to see more things that had utility (and this thread has provided that, in my view) and less, "I implanted a metal cross in my forehead so it's like a tactile tattoo," among the people I interact with in meatspace.

>>96 My bad, I was mainly replying to the first two.

>>74 > (or, god forbid, needs a MRI) The implants are placed to allow her to feel magnetic currents too. Imagine the feeling of duct tape being ripped off your skin, x1000. Made me think of the Black Mirror episode with the bees.

>cyberpunkisnow.com >link to facebook site Hehehe.

fuarrrk that. Not that I'm against awesome implants, but I'd rather opt for wearables in situations like this. Speaking of which...there seems to be a lack of affordable but useful wearable tech. Like there is a whole bunch of options for electrophys-machine interfaces (e.g. BCI) like OpenBCI, Myo, and Backyard Brains, but alot it is pricey or gets pricey real quick.

>>74 >she ever touches something hot Your flesh and soykaf would provide enough of a buffer so that the hot glue wouldn't melt. The only way i could see this MAYBE happening is an extreme case like a 3rd deg burn.

>>120 I don't know how much insulation your human-meat would provide, but I do know from experience that holding a finger against the heater on a hot glue gun will only give second-degree burns, at most.

>>95 Right, but there isn't any point in doing something if it wont develop to be more useful than current systems. Take the early mobile phone. It was bulky and difficult, sure, but it was clear that once the technology developed it would become an invaluable product. One which improved upon standard telephones by adding mobility. The compass example you gave doesn't have that; I can't imagine a situation in which knowing which direction north is would be useful, except for if I was going hiking in which I would probably bring a compass even if I had one installed, just in case it malfunctioned (which is more likely than my simple compass). I would understand if it had value as a testbed for implanting technology, but it doesn't even seem to be that. It's a wearable technology, which isn't really that impressive. Not that there is anything wrong with wearables, but they aren't exactly new. A better example would be Neil Harbisson (not really 'biohacking' as he got his augment installed by a professional surgeon). He is colourblind, but uses his antenna to recognise the wavelengths of light which he can't distinguish with his eyes. That's cool. What's more, it's an improvement over what he had before, where his world was black and white. Funnily enough, in the National Geographic article I read about him in, they included another example; a woman who has a seismic monitor and a magnet in her arm, so that she gets "real-time reports of earthquakes, allowing her to feel connected to the motions of the Earth and interpret them through dance". This is exactly the kind of hipster bollocks that in all honesty makes it hard to take this kind of thing seriously. Personally, I would like some kind of 'music chip', particularly so that I can listen whilst I go to sleep. This would be better than headphones, which can be uncomfortable (and often fall out of my ears anyway), and is less disturbing to everyone else than having a set of speakers. There would obviously be a few potential problems with that though - what if it got damaged or hacked, and you had to live with horrible noise for the rest of your life? How would it be powered? Would it store files on a separate device, and if so how would it access them? More to the point, would such a thing even be possible? (I have no idea, I don't know anything about how the brain works). tl;dr too much biohacking/transhumanist stuff is essentially pic related

>>122 >The compass example you gave doesn't have that; I can't imagine a situation in which knowing which direction north is would be useful, except for if I was going hiking in which I would probably bring a compass even if I had one installed, just in case it malfunctioned (which is more likely than my simple compass). You can't imagine a situation where you might suddenly find yourself lost in the woods without having planned to be there, desperately trying to figure out which way is back to town, but not sure because your bearings got confused when they knocked you unconscious? >Personally, I would like some kind of 'music chip', particularly so that I can listen whilst I go to sleep How's this? http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2013-06/biohacking-implanted-headphones

>>123 No, and in that case they probably would've nicked it anyway >http://www.popsci.com/technology/article/2013-06/biohacking-implanted-headphones dang that's actually really cool. It makes sense that medical implants will be the drivers of this kind of technology. Maybe one day captain Oberstein will be real.

>>124 How do they, "Nick," something that's surgically grafted into your bone?

>>125 But it's not, it's just strapped on like a bracelet BTW nick is perfectly acceptable slang I don't know why youre being PA like that

Here is a biohacking hackerspace. Check their projects to get an idea of what is being done, and what can be done. http://biocurious.org/projects/

I have a rfid/nfc chip(dangerous things XNT) in my hand. It's more of a novelty thing/business card. It really didn't hurt at all/was an easy heal. HOWEVER it sometimes migrates all over my hand and I have to maneuver it back to the safe zone. I'm getting cochlear implants next!

>>142 >cochlear implants what do they do?

>>184 Makes everything sound monotoneous and weird. It's for people who lost all their hearing.

>>142 >HOWEVER it sometimes migrates all over my hand and I have to maneuver it back to the safe zone. Do you see this as a danger (does it go unnoticed for a while) or do you notice it immediately and just push it back?

Bioengineering is a place to look for biohacking beyond novelty magnets.

>>88 >negative eugenics so, promoting bad genes?

>>200 >negative eugenics (removing human vestigiality and bad mutations) So making the worst case (all the awful genetic diseases and so on) less worst, rather than making the best case (blue eyed Aryan athlete or whatever is your pick) even better.

>>99 yeah, what a let down

This is the kind of biohacking that will matter. Yes, the headline is provocative, but electrical impulses to selected nerves have a multitude of other applications beyond getting off. The worry is, if someone highjacks them, you are under their control.

>>285 http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20140321-orgasms-at-the-push-of-a-button

Personally, I think diy/synbio, as opposed to implants, is better suited for the garage (read as: not working with lab resources) biohacker. It's less likely to get weird looks, and I think it has a much higher ceiling for us not-prosthetic-engineers. The biggest issue is actually setting up a lab space for it, though. I've seen some interesting stuff done with 3D printers, old webcams, and pressure cookers. Basic CRISPR kits go for ~100-200 USD, and custom DNA strands can be bought online above board. Gene guns are also a thing, but I don't really know much about them aside from those guys who kickstarted bio-luminescent house plants. Even ignoring all of that, bioreactors aren't hard too terribly hard to construct and can produce some interesting results. All the fun of biohacking and none of the embarrassment of telling your doctor your self-implanted magnet is infected. Of course, it also comes with risk of the FDA busting down your door but I consider that a feature.

you guys should watch the movie Sleight that recently came out that features a Biohacker\Grinder as the main character

>>368 >Custom DNA strands can be bought online above board Fuarrrk yeah they can be! It ain't so cheap, though, so you better make it worth it. Y'all interested in applications of viruses? http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/health/uw-scientists-biotech-firm-may-have-cure-for-colorblindness/

>>370 Thanks for the recommendation. I should suggest also Gattaca, for everyone looking into CRISPR and eugenics...

is it biohacking if I hide a blade (unexposed & wrapped up) inside my arm? asking for a friend

>>410 Your waifu might develop an immune rejection or a nasty inflammation by doing such things. It might be feasible with just the right coating, mechanics and supports, but considering it is a blade, eventually doing things blades do, I don't think anyone can hack it successfully. Nothing you and your waifu already know already, I bet. Such contraptions are ironically more likely to be achievable, thus better suited on people who lost their arm and have to rely on prosthetics in my opinion. I'd wager that Hollywood got that rough idea down pretty good using practical effects, maybe start with a simple version covered by fake skin? It would be functionally identical and indistinguishable from an outsiders perspective given good execution. That way your waifu friend might get to keep their arm and have a hidden blade to cosplay with. Having the cake and eating it too, so to say.

>>413 >inflammation Isopropyl alcohol works wonders on organics, and by wonders, I mean significantly exciting reactions that remove bacteria kebab from glorious serbian arm-hole. >coating Polylactic Acid is biocompatible and commonly used in 3d printers, but adulterants in the polymer might poison my friend. >practical effects Boring! I was thinking of removing a pesky ligament from my friend's left arm, but considering my friend has skinny arms, my friend better do more curls before trying hacks. My dream is to have inbuilt Powerbocking stilts in my friend's legs so that my friend can run marathons for fun.

>>410 If I were your friend, I'd rather made a very thin pressure-activated blade under skin-tone membrane, could be made indistinguishable from a real chubby hand

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w7Jz1LzhQMQ this guy is cool

>>377 I want monocular tetrachromacy Whether through stem-cell-grown eyes or what

>>414 >Polylactic Acid is biocompatible and commonly used in 3d printers, but adulterants in the polymer might poison my friend. Also, how do you keep the blade from cutting the arm it's hidden in?